Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreBox small computer

2015-07-07 Thread moxalt
Just because it isn't as free as Gluglug's gear doesn't mean it's a 'scam'. It
is advertised as a computer system that will work with a free OS. It does this.
I see no scam.

Sure, it would be nice if there were more Gluglug-likes around, but this is a
step in the right direction. We need more fully free OSes running in the first
place.


Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreBox small computer

2015-07-07 Thread Vinzenz Vietzke


Am 7. Juli 2015 03:03:23 MESZ, schrieb danigaritaro...@gmail.com:
Those who aren't aware of what free hardware truly mean could start
recommending this  
as libre hardware, which is a lie.

I have deep doubts that someone not knowing the real sense of free hardware 
but recommending something as it's libre. ;)
Nevertheless: yes, the name is a bit misleading. 

But my thoughts were going in a different direction. Ubuntu Mate is a) 
generating a lot of buzz and b) offering a small device for a reasonable price 
preloaded with their system. These are useful things to attract new users, 
especially with an easy to use operating system. 
So why not step up, go that way too and show that all this is possible with a 
completely free OS too?

vinz.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Tweak your browser to enhance security and privacy

2015-07-07 Thread greatgnu

Excellent pizzamen! +1 and another +1 ! :)




Re: [Trisquel-users] No JS Support

2015-07-07 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Wow, I had no idea it was that bad! Just a long list with some entries I knew  
I don't trust...


Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreBox small computer

2015-07-07 Thread greatgnu
yes. I was talking about Purism Librem. I say Librem is a scam. Not this  
LibreTrend thing. I only said that this Libretrand reminded me of that other  
thing (the other thing is a scam - Purism librem).


Saying this laptop is free software friendly is ok. Impling that it  
contains 100% free software is NOT ok.


What I really don't like is the Librem (purism) and I repeat - librem is a  
scam.


You may find this interesting:  
http://blogs.coreboot.org/blog/2015/02/23/the-truth-about-purism-why-librem-is-not-the-same-as-libre/


That being said, I think both are a bad thing. There are very few people in  
the world that care about free software and even fewer are those who care  
about computers running with only free software (BIOS and firmware included).
It is a bad thing, a very bad thing if those very few give their money to  
these pseudo-free projects. The people who care about freedom should  
financially support gluglug and those companies that actually do something to  
free the hardware (the libreboot project for instance).
People shall NOT give money to those who promise nonsense (read the article I  
linked above about the librem) or those who imply their computers contain  
only feee software, while that is absolutely not true..






Re: [Trisquel-users] No JS Support

2015-07-07 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
And this is why I still prefer to use free JavaScript, not block all
JavaScript.


Respectfully, Adonay.
Have a nice day.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] No JS Support

2015-07-07 Thread danigaritarojas
I liked your idea, so I created this wiki page  
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/list-css-styles-fixes-some-dynamic-websites


[Trisquel-users] Re : Rejected games list

2015-07-07 Thread calinou
No one published free/libre replacement data for them yet. Same goes for most  
Quake/Doom games (eg. Doom 3).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Tweak your browser to enhance security and privacy

2015-07-07 Thread cooloutac
yes apparmor should be in there,  i'm happy that trisquel has a profile for  
abrowser :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Thoughts on Trisquel 7.1 based off of Ubuntu 14.04.3 with release in July or August

2015-07-07 Thread greatgnu
There certainly aren't many developers on Trisquel. That's true. It is also  
true that Ruben is not the only one working on it. There are several people  
helping with code. And if you (generic you) want to help you are very  
welcome!


https://devel.trisquel.info/groups/trisquel


Re: [Trisquel-users] Tweak your browser to enhance security and privacy

2015-07-07 Thread cooloutac
tks.  I also typed cache in about:config, and changed every cache entry from  
true to false, I got fed up with the hdd caching and just disabled  
everything.


some things I didn't know to disable on that tutorial, and I really  
appreciate it.  awesome job.


 I'm still wondering though if the privacy.trackingdisabled.enabled  is  
really doing anything.  You are supposed to get the icon and drop down menu  
next to the address bar when it is activiely blocking something.  For  
example,  it should show up on youtube.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Tweak your browser to enhance security and privacy

2015-07-07 Thread gnuser

webgl.disabled = true

WebGL is a potential security risk.


I noticed that in Tor Browser, that line is true. Could it be that the  
NoScript addon handles that issue?
Anyway, I would encourage anyone to use NoScript. Even if you set it to allow  
all by default, it will protect you from XSS attacks and clickjacking.
How about adding an AppArmor profile to restrict browser access to the  
system? :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] New Updates: Opensource/Free FPS standalone mod of Xonotic (ChaosEsque) version 57 etc.

2015-07-07 Thread chaosesqueteam

Thanks for the encouragement :).

We also got our first defacement.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New Updates: Opensource/Free FPS standalone mod of Xonotic (ChaosEsque) version 57 etc.

2015-07-07 Thread chaosesqueteam
Checked the LGDB account, found that the entry was modified, not by me, and  
to my knowlege only account holders can modify. This was likely done by an  
SJW from 8chan or Joerg, who follows a certain contributor around the net  
saying how anything he makes is crap.


http://www.lgdb.org/game/chaosesque-anthology
The lgdb account was defaced and made to read as such:


ChaosEsque Anthology is crap. It is a standalone modification of Xonotic  
which includes extended weapons, maps, vehicles, buildable buildings, mounted  
weapons, spell casting, monsters, player characters, textures, and game  
modes. It would like to be a first person shooter, but since nobody is  
playing it, it is more of a minecraft thing.


It has over 100 shitty maps. Some pretend to be futuristic, some are ancient  
(really), and some are medieval (from a level design perspective). A few  
evoke platform games such as sonic, others follow a style more akin to  
diablo. Some are static maps, others are randomly connected.


There is something to fit your mood. There are mutators that can add mounted  
weapons in any map, buildings, monsters, foliage, hazards, and even balloons  
and bumpers. You can fight with futuristic weapons, medieval weapons, and /or  
hand to hand combat (over 70 weapons). There are also many vehicles (and a  
mutator to spawn them in maps that do not have them, as is tradition (as you  
can see)).


You can also set each team to start with different specific weapons if you  
want to test a theory that you could defeat a well equipped military force  
with your bolt action rifle or crossbow. Same with vehicles and mounted  
weapons spawning (you can set which spawn near which team in CTF etc). You  
can drink wine, potions, learn magic, read scrolls, so on and so forth.


The goal, and much of this has been reached, is to not limit the player.


Special thanks to NASA for images of Earth and Mars.


Probably by the :-) SJW guy from 8 chan or Joerg.

Reverted.


If it happens to be defaced again, now you know why we don't run our own  
public servers, websites, and we release ISOs rather than have everything be  
pulled exclusively from git. We like to build maps, program, etc, not fight  
with Social Justice Warriors on a Mission endlessly.


Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreBox small computer

2015-07-07 Thread Vinzenz Vietzke
Lucky you. I had the hard way of going through hours of tweaking thanks to 
Lenovo's blacklist feature. So imho pre-building PCs with libre parts ain't 
immoral. It's a way for people not having the skills and knowledge to get at 
least a mostly libre computer. By saying that being immoral you are claiming 
that offering people a way to freedom is immoral. I find that a bit disturbing.

What else I find disturbing is this discussion, especially calling the product 
scam and such. Did any of you guys shouting hard words even read the 
questions answered in this thread?
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/libretrend-my-vision-free-software

Am 7. Juli 2015 13:11:05 MESZ, schrieb great...@riseup.net:
well said danieru. And also I really don't like those companies (like
this  
one and purism) that profit from terms like free or libre giving
people  
the mere illusion of freedom.
I found it immoral. An immoral way of doing business.
My laptop is as libre as any of these laptops they sell. All I had to
do  
was switch the wifi adapter with and Atheros one that doesn't require  
non-free firmware: cost - 10 dollars ; time/effort - 3 minutes ..



Re: [Trisquel-users] No JS Support

2015-07-07 Thread nicolasmaia
Thanks Danieru! Make sure to add it to the All Manuals list so that people  
can find it :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Gnewsense and Blag

2015-07-07 Thread abhijithb21
Blag is active and I tried their 20K alpha release a few months back. It was  
good. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Gnewsense and Blag

2015-07-07 Thread abhijithb21

Try the FSF link.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Rejected games list

2015-07-07 Thread onpon4

Right, but the game doesn't exist. Someone has to make it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-07-07 Thread travis
I got my Libre Boot MacBook Pro up and running (minus the small wireless  
dropout issue I mentioned in another thread) and thought you folks might like  
some pics! I got the sticker to cover the *pple logo from Zazzle. It covers  
the logo alright, but I made the sticker a little too big so the whole GNU  
doesn't glow, only his face :'(


Re: [Trisquel-users] Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-07-07 Thread nicolasmaia

It looks great!! I can't wait for mine to arrive :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] No JS Support

2015-07-07 Thread legimet . calc
Am I the only one who recognized the person who requested it to be added to  
the whitelist?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Rejected games list

2015-07-07 Thread lord_abinadi
With the editors also being free software this isn't a problem. You can  
ignore the original games and just use the engine/editor to make an entirely  
new and wholly original games...


Re: [Trisquel-users] No JS Support

2015-07-07 Thread greatgnu
lembas is right. I've been doing this since I've started using noscript,  
which was a long time ago when I was still using the windo$e.
I've recently found out about this and was glad that I always did so.. -  
https://thehackerblog.com/the-noscript-misnomer-why-should-i-trust-vjs-zendcdn-net/


Re: [Trisquel-users] What you think of LibreSSL?

2015-07-07 Thread Andrew Roffey
gnuser:
 What are your thoughts on this, should we start using LibreSSL, after
 all the s*** that has been going on with OpenSSL?

I don't know if the APIs for LibreSSL are the same for OpenSSL but
modifying programs to use the former could be a big job and ideally
would be done by upstream maintainers. From what I've heard LibreSSL is
a much more stripped down version of OpenSSL.

The OpenSSL project has received more contributions and resources to
continue since the event so the reason for LibreSSL isn't as much as it
was before. I think it sounds like a good project though.

Andrew


Re: [Trisquel-users] No JS Support

2015-07-07 Thread nicolasmaia
Onpon4 could you please make these JS-avoidance tricks in your Goblin Refuge  
channel into a text-based tutorial and submit as Trisquel documentation in  
the wiki? It would be very handy. Thanks!




Re: [Trisquel-users] What you think of LibreSSL?

2015-07-07 Thread gnuser

I am in a hurry right now, sorry for the short reply.

A quick websearch revealed these links:
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20141229/06331329532/how-nsa-works-hard-to-break-encryption-any-way-it-can.shtml
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/inside-the-nsa-s-war-on-internet-security-a-1010361.html
https://hamish.gate.ac.uk/posts/2015/01/14/has-nsa-cracked-ssh/

Like I said, those comments are from memory (stuff I have read and heard  
online over the last couple months). I will try to document it better later.


I will try to find the OpenBSD references too.


Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreBox small computer

2015-07-07 Thread greatgnu
well said danieru. And also I really don't like those companies (like this  
one and purism) that profit from terms like free or libre giving people  
the mere illusion of freedom.

I found it immoral. An immoral way of doing business.
My laptop is as libre as any of these laptops they sell. All I had to do  
was switch the wifi adapter with and Atheros one that doesn't require  
non-free firmware: cost - 10 dollars ; time/effort - 3 minutes ..




Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreBox small computer

2015-07-07 Thread greatgnu
The first high-end laptop that respects your privacy, security, and freedom.   
YEAH, RIGHT..


A computer that has a proprietary BIOS and firmware but claims to be  The  
first high-end laptop that respects your privacy, security, and freedom. is a  
SCAM!


They make money from selling laptops that are no more librem that any  
laptop with an intel integrated graphics card and an Atheros wifi adapter  
that doesn't require non-free firmware. And they call it librem, and claim  
that their laptops are The first high-end laptop that respects your privacy,  
security, and freedom.

Now if that is not a scam, I don't know what is..




Re: [Trisquel-users] Beagle Core

2015-07-07 Thread paradigmlift
Fair enough, it definitely is not for all purposes.  Just pointing out that  
if you don't need graphics the board mentioned in the OP can be run totally  
libre.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Charging On The Go

2015-07-07 Thread calmstorm
My bad I forgot it is Gnu/LINUX and yes I do normally care. I was just lazy  
probably that day. lol


Re: [Trisquel-users] Charging On The Go

2015-07-07 Thread calmstorm

That might just be a good idea, I am going to consider that option.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Gnewsense and Blag

2015-07-07 Thread abhijithb21
No it is not. Dragora 3 is  coming out...  
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/dragora.git/


[Trisquel-users] Re : What you think of LibreSSL?

2015-07-07 Thread lcerf

https://hamish.gate.ac.uk/posts/2015/01/14/has-nsa-cracked-ssh/

This is the relevant link:

I'd be cautious about concluding that, for example, SSH is broken, on the  
basis of this fragmentary report. Claims of successful decryption of SSH  
sessions almost certainly don't mean that (a) public key protocols protecting  
key exchange are broken (GPG would be broken too), or (b) any of the suite of  
ciphers used by SSH is vulnerable. They could be talking about side-channels,  
like fooling people into ignoring warnings that server keys have changed, or  
about sessions initiated from compromised machines.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Librebooted Macbook 2,1

2015-07-07 Thread jadedml

GuixSD? I'd recommend waiting for a stable release.
It's a fine OS, but not quite good for a primary one, at least not yet.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Gnewsense and Blag

2015-07-07 Thread jadedml

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/dragora-gnu-linux-libre-110/dragora-marked-as-%27dormant%27-on-distrowatch-4175545926/
Dragora's dormant, at least according to Distrowatch. :p


Re: [Trisquel-users] Rejected games list

2015-07-07 Thread lord_abinadi
But why exclude a free software engine if it just so happens it can be used  
as a drop-in replacement for a non-free one if you use assets from an old  
game?


It would make some sence if that was all you could do with it, but in the  
case of my two examples this is not the case.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Gnewsense and Blag

2015-07-07 Thread lcerf

Blag is active and I tried their 20K alpha release a few months back.

Blag 20k is based on Fedora 20... whose support is over.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Rejected games list

2015-07-07 Thread lord_abinadi
But why exclude a free software engine if it just so happens it can be used  
as a drop-in replacement for a non-free one if you use assets from an old  
game?


It would make some since if that was all you could do with it, but in the  
case of my two examples this is not the case.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New Updates: Opensource/Free FPS standalone mod of Xonotic (ChaosEsque) version 57 etc.

2015-07-07 Thread jadedml

Sorry about the defacement. :(
I haven't been able to play it yet, but from the pictures it looks great.
I'll set up a mirror on my site, if you don't mind-- the SF download is  
head-bashingly slow. @_@


Re: [Trisquel-users] Tweak your browser to enhance security and privacy

2015-07-07 Thread gaming4jc2

Nice list, added one item to it concerning DRM.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Tweak your browser to enhance security and privacy

2015-07-07 Thread nicolasmaia
Thanks! I kept it out because I thought Abrowser and IceCat don't have DRM  
support anyway.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Thoughts on Trisquel 7.1 based off of Ubuntu 14.04.3 with release in July or August

2015-07-07 Thread tegskywalker
Improvements to XFS in the newer kernels is another reason to offer an  
updated ISO. Why is this important? It's important since Trisquel will format  
a /home partition to XFS by default and I assume many of you use XFS. I do.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New Updates: Opensource/Free FPS standalone mod of Xonotic (ChaosEsque) version 57 etc.

2015-07-07 Thread chaosesqueteam
 I'll set up a mirror on my site, if that's alright-- the SF download is  
head-bashingly slow. @_@


Feel free, :D. Game is fully libre (GPL, CC0,CCBY,CCBYSA, BSD, PubDomain,  
MIT) and mirrors and fan-made websites are encouraged.


(Game doesn't really have it's own regular website, just the entries on the  
video game sites and the project page).


A dream is if someone would make a fan-made website and that could be the  
official one. Maybe people might even talk on it, make maps, set up  
matches, spread the game, explore the textures packed into the game, etc.


There is also a git-repo-backup uploaded as a split tar.gz file and a  
supportdvd that has some extra maps that are towns etc, unit test maps, and  
all the opensource apps used to make the media assets, also:



Dev Enviorment in tar.gz: https://sourceforge.net/projects/chaosesquedevenv/

DVD Case and DVD Labels and
Extras: https://sourceforge.net/projects/chaoseesquesupplemental/


And it does indeed take forever to upload to sf.net.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Thoughts on Trisquel 7.1 based off of Ubuntu 14.04.3 with release in July or August

2015-07-07 Thread gnuser
Having a release date for the point releases would force the developers to  
make sure that security updates were done in time.
Now, I understand that Trisquel basically has one developer, Ruben, and it's  
very hard for one man alone to do all this work by himself. Which is kinda  
funny, seeing as the GNU project never really released a distro themselves  
that could be said to fulfill the GNU project's purpose, nor do they actually  
support for real the projects that try to do that. Having more people writing  
code in Trisquel would certainly help Ruben a lot. He has done a great work  
with Icecat from what I understand. Wish it was in Debian's repos.


Re: [Trisquel-users] TWM and the missing menu

2015-07-07 Thread moxalt
I run Trisquel 7 with all repos enabled (main, updates, security, backports)
and use twm. On installation, menu was listed in the recommended packages, and
so I installed it. apt-get found menu fine. It works.

By 'not being able to find it in the repo' do you mean *you* couldn't find it
in the online package list browser? Do you mean apt-get didn't find the
package? Do you mean that an apt search came up blank? Details, please.

It would also be useful if you were to post the contents of your apt sources
list and config files.


[Trisquel-users] Tweak your browser to enhance security and privacy

2015-07-07 Thread nicolasmaia
Hi! I've just created this documentation page:  
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/tweak-your-browser-enhance-security-and-privacy


It's basically copypasted from privacytools.io, but I thought it would be  
useful to have it here. I know these things are controversial, so here's the  
place to argue about it. Also, feel free to improve it!


Ideally we also want to include Midori tips and tricks :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreBox small computer

2015-07-07 Thread moxalt
 The first high-end laptop that respects your privacy, security, and freedom.

Nowhere on the LibreTrend hardware portal does it actually state this. Nowhere
on their website could I actually find this tagline. If this is actually a
slogan used by LibreTrend, and you can show me where you found this, I will
join you in condemning it as bullshit.

 librem

I wasn't talking about the Purism Librem. I said that you were too quick to
condemn the LibreBox as a scam. They (to my knowledge) do not advertise
themselves as the aforementioned. They call the LibreBox a 'Free
Software-friendly' machine, which it is- just as much as Thinkpenguin. Nowhere
do they actually state that the LibreBox has 100% free software (although I
agree this is implied). They have not lied. I see no scam.

I don't like the project either, especially their recent deal with Ubuntu MATE.
This is misleading, and creates the impression that Ubuntu is a free operating
system. But Thinkpenguin offer the installation of non-free OSes as well, and,
though not as pernicious because at least there is choice, this has the same
potential to mislead. Furthermore, this does not contradict any of what
LibreTrend market the LibreBox as: a free OS compatible computer.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Rejected games list

2015-07-07 Thread onpon4
LibreGameWiki is designed to help people find games to play, not to help game  
developers find engines to use. The latter purpose would probably be better  
served in a place like freegamedev.net.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Thoughts on Trisquel 7.1 based off of Ubuntu 14.04.3 with release in July or August

2015-07-07 Thread onpon4
How do you imagine security updates happen? Most of them come from Ubuntu,  
and you don't need to wait for a new release for security updates!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Beagle Core

2015-07-07 Thread tomlukeywood

the bbb looks great for running home servers with all libre software


Re: [Trisquel-users] LibreBox small computer

2015-07-07 Thread abhijithb21

LibreTrend website mentions that it uses BIOS so they are not lying to us.