Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat 31.7.0

2015-07-19 Thread moxalt
 find the repo for IceCat

Find what? Unless you've done something stupid with your sources list, it
should be in the Trisquel repo.

 installing from source

You didn't need to do that.

 is there an easy way to install?

It's called apt-get. Just apt-get icecat (as root).


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread moxalt
Am I the only person here not experiencing any strange issues with the latest
Abrowser? It works perfectly for me. Haven't changed any settings since before
the update. I don't even mind reader mode. I tried it out the first time,
didn't really see the point (though it is a nice gimmick) and it has never
popped up again.

It's probably because I don't really use any of the addons- I kept my
browser as vanilla as possible.


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread himself

i'm in gnome full trisquel now, but i can't find that user setting


Re: [Trisquel-users] New arrival

2015-07-19 Thread moxalt
That's my battle plan.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New arrival

2015-07-19 Thread moxalt
It's still about 2/3 cheaper than the average high-end Windows laptop with
equivalent specs.


Re: [Trisquel-users] help me choose a configuration

2015-07-19 Thread himself
* can't find the app that tracks processes so can't tell what is using cpu. i  
installed but can't rememeber what it is called and can't find it in the  
menus


* after kernel upgrade and sudo apt-get upgrade-distro (or whatevre the  
correct syntax is) it now only does crazy cpu in response to some things,  
weirdly icecat triggers it but abrowser does not.


* can someone please explain the little bash function on the kernel upgrade  
page?


* there seems to be a grub problem, I have a grub menu on every reboot


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-07-19 Thread gromobir
The best place for feedback concerning hardware is probably www.h-node.org.  
Welcome to freedom.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Decentralised server: BeagleBoneBlack as a mail server/other services? Your experience?

2015-07-19 Thread tomlukeywood

what server would fry?
i am running these 2 servers with 512mb ram and 700mhz cpu:

http://www.loxleyvalleyprotectionsociety.co.uk/
http://92.19.232.58:82/index.html

i run my owncloud server with 1gb ram and 1.66ghz cpu
but it could easily be run on the other lower spec machines

the only things that i listed that would make it fry i think
are the video game servers


Re: [Trisquel-users] New arrival

2015-07-19 Thread tomlukeywood

but it is very easy to install libreboot on a x60 yourself


Re: [Trisquel-users] help me choose a configuration

2015-07-19 Thread himself
Icecat was working fine on my system in Trisquel mini, and I think in Mint  
too. this is not being a resource hog this is pegging one cpu to max in a  
broken sort of way.


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread tomlukeywood

try running this command and see if it can be run!:
sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get install git  git clone  
https://notabug.org/tomlukeywood/freenetbootin.git  cd freenetbootin   
make  sudo ./unetbootin  sudo rm -r ../freenetbootin


Re: [Trisquel-users] help me choose a configuration

2015-07-19 Thread himself

i fixed grub - boot-pc was not installed only boot-pc bin

??

anyway icecat is still a problem but so far other things are working ok.

it shouldn't be this difficult


[Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-07-19 Thread strypey
I am running an Acer Aspire One. Former Ubuntu user, sat a spell on Debian  
too. Been running 6 Toutatis for about 2 years. Install stays pretty stable  
for at least that long, even with me installing a lot of extra packages for  
testing, so pretty reliable, and simple to use. Easy install, works from a  
USB with UNetbootin, and I'd been thinking it was about time for a fresh  
install.


Just installed 7 Belanos on a separate partition. Had a few teething problems  
with the GRUB2 configuration (see GRUB issues thread), but got that sorted  
now. IceCat a bit wobbly, particularly with LibreJS turned on, writing this  
in Abrowser, in a guest session on 7.


A few hardware issues. The display offers a much smaller range of resolutions  
(800x600 4:3 and 1024x600 16:9) than in 6, which isn't a major problem with  
one screen, but I haven't yet tested with two. Can't figure out how (or if)  
to switch from Metacity to Compiz, or change the desktops back to a square  
(they're in a line by default in 7, why?). The scroll bar on the right-hand  
edge of the built-in touchpad works in 6, but not in 7, which is a nuisance  
but tolerable. I can use GUI click-and-drag scroll bars, but using a touchpad  
with a screen this size makes them fiddly (any way to make the scrollbars  
appear as wider in Abrowser?).


Is the forum the best way to give such feedback?


Re: [Trisquel-users] help me choose a configuration

2015-07-19 Thread firefoxbugreporter
IceCat has LibreJS add-on installed. It can sometimes be a resource hog,  
especially on slower systems.


Now that I checked it with trisquel.info, it seems to require 40+ seconds on  
modern hardware. But with LibreJS disabled the website loads quite fast.


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread cyberhawk
I am experiencing the same behaivour, but setting the reader.parse.onload to  
false didn't help. Icecat is unaffected.


I also get the same output as ssdclickofdeath.

I have 6GB of memory and 3,2GB swap, while running mini-trisquel.


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread moxalt
Can you please reply to the actual posts themselves? It's annoying to have to
sift through and find the post you're replying to, and even harder when working
through email, as am I and no doubt others too.


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread matt . ivie
One note: I am using Trisquel 7 32-bit. Can anyone confirm whether or not  
this is happening on a 64-bit machine?


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread gnuser
You could give him a break and tell him to install unetbootin from the repos,  
its a lot easier for a newbie :-P
I know you did a good job with freenetbootin but c'mon... unetbootin is not  
that bad :-P


Re: [Trisquel-users] Decentralised server: BeagleBoneBlack as a mail server/other services? Your experience?

2015-07-19 Thread punkxlash

What OS are you using as server?


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread nicolasmaia

I'm not having this issue either, and I have addons and plugins installed...


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread legimet . calc

I'm not experiencing issues either.


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread tomlukeywood

ok i did not know it was in trisquels repo's

so yeah you can just find unetbootin i add/remove applications


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread matt . ivie

Are you guys all using 64-bit or 32-bit Trisquel?


Re: [Trisquel-users] help me choose a configuration

2015-07-19 Thread gromobir
If you type top in a terminal you'll see what causes this high CPU load.  
For me this reads a lot like this bug: https://trisquel.info/en/issues/8183


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread gnuser
Usually if something is in Debian's main repo it will be in Ubuntu's and  
Mint's and Trisquel's repos as well.

If i am wrong please correct me :)


[Trisquel-users] Re : 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread mtlben
I have the same crash on my 32-bit computer, and no problem at all on my  
64-bit computer...


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread matt . ivie
What is the quickest way to get this problem fixed? It seems like a major  
issue like this should be dealt with more quickly.


Also, why is it that as soon as a new package version is available the old  
one is immediately removed from the repos? In a situation like this I'd like  
to downgrade back to abrowser 38 but can't. I had to go back to 33.1 instead.


Re: [Trisquel-users] A mail provider based in Bulgaria, using 100% open source software, Tor-friendly and no javascript friendly.

2015-07-19 Thread davidvargas1
Since I read your posting, I did open an e-mail account with them. Matter  
fact, I'm looking and researching to setup a e-mail server for us. My  
colleagues agree and vote for it, All 14 employees voted unanimously. I'm  
committed to my employees because of their vote! My employees would like it  
to be functional in 6 months.


Anymore suggestion are welcome.


Re: [Trisquel-users] GRUB issues

2015-07-19 Thread strypey
This has gotten off topic (GRUB), so I'll reply in the general 7 feedback  
thread I started:

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/trisquel-7-feedback-hardware-details


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-07-19 Thread strypey

In a thread of GRUB issues, we drifted into some general feedback on 7:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/grub-issues#comment-73834

onpon4 wrote about the lack of easy access to Compiz in 7:
The tool you're talking about was from the Trisquel devs, and it was dropped  
in Trisquel 7. You now need to enable Compiz by yourself. The script is  
pretty simple, though, so you could copy it from Trisquel 6 to Trisquel 7, or  
8 (whatever you upgrade to next), or just read it to understand how to enable  
Compiz manually.


Ok. So does the script you speak of download Compiz from the repositories  
before it does anything else? Or is it that Compiz is still in the default  
install, but there's no longer a GUI way to turn it on?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Decentralised server: BeagleBoneBlack as a mail server/other services? Your experience?

2015-07-19 Thread merwancherif
Really? Hey, then problem solved. I didn't know about u-boot. Tanks for the  
link legimet, looks like some more interesting reading.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboinc: A totally free Boinc, only for free projects

2015-07-19 Thread nicolasmaia

So, did this go anywhere?


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread himself
I have been looking for a way to install unetbootin for days, i really don't  
care which version, i'd be using downloaded images anyway.


however I can't find it in the trisquel repo, and sourceforge appears to be  
broken so I haven't managed to get it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread himself
thanks! i'll try this when I get time for another session with it. Clear  
instructions like that from the actual source of the software makes things  
much easier. I can follow what the commands are doing but I wouldn't have  
known them myself.


Of course to really make it easy may I suggest you make a .deb file download  
from your site?


if the Startup Disk Creator tool included with Trisquel is known to not work  
properly, then why not just replace it in the distro with freenetbootin?




Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread himself
I'm a bit unclear what you are requesting and in which case it didn't happen.  
If everyone replies to the post most relevant to their reply then the latest  
post forks off all over the place, doesn't that make it harder? Nevertheless  
I thought that's what we were doing...


Re: [Trisquel-users] help me choose a configuration

2015-07-19 Thread cooloutac

huh?  you sound pretty advanced.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New arrival

2015-07-19 Thread tomlukeywood

and Intel proprietary CPU stuff removed from ROM
doesn’t libreboot do that..?


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread himself

it got a lot further this time, but ended with bash: make: command not found


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread legimet . calc
You know you can install multiple packages in one command, right? For  
example:

apt-get install qt4-qmake libqt4-dev git


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread franparpe

It seems so, I have a 32bit computer and I'm having these issues


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread himself

i installed g++ and ran make etc and freenetbootin is running

it warned me extlinux not found, but i can presumably get it if I need EXT2

thank-you! i will keep this thread as an example for future attempts to  
compile things though no doubt the procedure varies...


can i ask at this point, how do I make shortcuts for menus or panel etc so i  
can strat the application easily? there must be a guide somewhere - feel free  
just to point/link


also can i move the compiled app? on osx if i want to move an app to another  
computer i can simply copy the app (which is really a folder containing  
binaries and supporting files) to the other machine and run it - is there an  
equivalent procedure on GNU/Linux? it seems much harder to know where the  
actual binaries are, and one can't just double click the app folder to run it  
-but maybe that's just my ignorance.







[Trisquel-users] I can't seem to find a user-mode-linux package.

2015-07-19 Thread sstewartgallus00

I need it to run pbuilder as nonroot.


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread legimet . calc

unetbootin isn't in the repos.


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread tomlukeywood

ok try now!

sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get install qt4-qmake  sudo apt-get install  
qt5-qmake  sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev  sudo apt-get install make  
cmake  sudo apt-get install git  git clone  
https://notabug.org/tomlukeywood/freenetbootin.git  cd freenetbootin   
make  sudo ./unetbootin


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread dhood
I have 64bit and I am getting the same crashes as others have reported.  
Except I can't go to any websites thus far witout it crashing.


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread legimet . calc

64-bit


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread tomlukeywood
i know its just this why if theres a missing package it will at least install  
the others if not the one that failed


Re: [Trisquel-users] New arrival

2015-07-19 Thread jason

doesn’t libreboot do that..?

Sure, but some people might still prefer to guy from Gluglug anyway. In this  
way you get to support Francis and his ongoing work. As an example, I  
purchased his Libreboot installation service so as to support him financially  
even though I already had Libreboot installed. I wanted to support him. We  
need libreboot and it's in our shared best interests to be sure he's still  
around and able to work on it full-time. That means money to pay rent and buy  
food and etc. as he currently does nothing else but Libreboot. (If you think  
of it, the computer selling business is a way to support his work.) Freedom  
isn't free: Support freedom. :)


[Trisquel-users] Re : experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread lcerf
build-essential is for making .deb packages. Here only g++ needs to be  
installed.


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread himself

making .deb packages is something i'd like to learn to do.

i wondered if g++ was just another missing package

does build-essential include g++?

a thought- since trisquel is all about software freedom, and the whole point  
of free software is that you can modify and rebuild it - would it be good if  
standard tools for compiling were included in trisquel by default?




[Trisquel-users] Re : experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread lcerf
Your chain of commands stops as soon as there is a problem. To keep on  
installing even after a problem,  must be turned into ;.


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread legimet . calc

sudo apt-get install build-essential


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread Dave Hunt
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What am I doing wrong? Abrowser 39 doesn't crash here. I have Trisquel
7.0, 64-bit, running on a laptop with 3 GB ram and 6 GB swap.  I'll
try 32-bit on my other machine.


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 I have 64bit and I am getting the same crashes as others have
 reported. Except I can't go to any websites thus far witout it
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Re: [Trisquel-users] help me choose a configuration

2015-07-19 Thread cooloutac

I would recommend abrowser.


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread himself

yes, several times for various reasons since i first had this issue.

i also looked in the web index for the trisquel repo and couldn't find it, os  
i think it isn't really there and the entry in add remove software is  
spurious, possibly related to earlier attempts to install it?


any idea about that error when following your freenetbootin install  
instructions?


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread tomlukeywood

oh sorry that was a mistake by me try it now
sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get install qt4-qmake  qt5-qmake  sudo  
apt-get install libqt4-dev  sudo apt-get install git  git clone  
https://notabug.org/tomlukeywood/freenetbootin.git  cd freenetbootin   
make  sudo ./unetbootin


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread himself
it objected because the cloned git was already there so i removed it and  
recloned it and ran the rest but i get this:


/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/qmake DEFINES\ +=\ NOSTATIC RESOURCES\ -=\  
unetbootin.qrc -o Makefile unetbootin.pro

/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/uic unetbootin.ui -o ui_unetbootin.h
g++ -c -m64 -pipe -O2 -Wall -W -D_REENTRANT -DNOSTATIC -DNOSTATIC  
-DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_GUI_LIB -DQT_NETWORK_LIB -DQT_CORE_LIB -DQT_SHARED  
-I/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++-64 -I. -I/usr/include/qt4/QtCore  
-I/usr/include/qt4/QtNetwork -I/usr/include/qt4/QtGui -I/usr/include/qt4 -I.  
-I. -I. -o main.o main.cpp

make: g++: Command not found
make: *** [main.o] Error 127

i've been pretty much following up to here but this is beyond me



Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread cooloutac

So everything is running good now,  glad to hear!


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread cooloutac

https://askubuntu.com/questions/217981/how-to-install-and-run-unetbootin


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-07-19 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp

What kind of hardware is that? I.e. your output oflspci

Does this make your touchpad scroll work?synclient VertEdgeScroll=1


Re: [Trisquel-users] Decentralised server: BeagleBoneBlack as a mail server/other services? Your experience?

2015-07-19 Thread merwancherif
Well, that's really impressive. If this much can be run at a decent speed,  
then my life is complete, at last. Seriously, this is great!


[Trisquel-users] Re : help me choose a configuration

2015-07-19 Thread lcerf

* can't find the app that tracks processes so can't tell what is using cpu.

I do not know if Trisquel Mini has such a graphical application by default.  
But you can install that of the regular edition: GNOME System Monitor. You  
can install it from Add/remove applications (for instance).


Re: [Trisquel-users] help me choose a configuration

2015-07-19 Thread himself
both top and system monitor show the icecat process using 100% when i try to  
visit this website.


abrowser is fine.

incidentally when i remove and reinstall icecat it has all my old bookmarks  
and prefs, presumably it is getting them from abrowser, is it supposed to  
share users in this way? It would be more useful if they were separate.


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread cooloutac

so only people on 32bit are having the problem it seems?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread moxalt
No problems on my 64-bit either.


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread moxalt
64-bit.


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread moxalt
I was requesting that instead of replying to posters replying to you by making
entirely new posts, you actually follow up and reply those posts. It is far
easier to follow the chain of conversation when the replies are actually
threaded, as opposed to having to find the post being referred to. It's a tiny
thing.

It may, of course, just be a problem with my mail client's threading, or
something. Can't be bothered to check out the website.


[Trisquel-users] Antwort: 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread mmoeller
I experience the same issue. Never had any oom problems before. Disabled  
reader view but it still segfaults. No downgrade possible as mentioned by  
alucardx.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-07-19 Thread lcerf

Compiz is not part of Trisquel 7's default install but is in the repository.


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread himself
so is this the right place to reply even though i alreday replied to later  
posts on this fork of the thread?


anyway when i tried the above it gives me E: Unable to locate package qmake

after a bunch of other stuff.


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread himself



go to system settings, then click user accounts... ?

I see it - I wasn't sure if you meant there or somewhere else. The problem  
earlier, and also just now was that the pane wouldn't unlock, it would appear  
to but the options remained greyed out. I just succeeded in unlocking it -  
not sure what changed.


are you sure you are not just looking to find problems with trisquel? lol

Yes of course I am, when you contemplate spending (tens of?) thousands of  
hours of your life using something you want to know the problems before  
getting in too deep. That said, I don't think I'm being any harsher than I  
would be on any other system.




Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread cooloutac

changing your user account setting might of been what changed.

and fair enough,  any other issues?


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread himself

further to my last long post:

specific issue that is probably multiple issues.

example: I want to install unetbootin from the repo.

* It doesn't show up in synaptic
* it shows up in add/remove applications
* when I click on the check box the cursor becomes a spinny wheel  
indefinitely until I quit add/remove applications.
* sudo apt-get install unetbootin doesn't work (E: Unable to locate package  
unetbootin)


related issue

icecat doesn't show in add/remove applications but does in synaptic.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-07-19 Thread matt . ivie
I have some hardware that had resolution issues when I moved from Trisquel 6  
to Trisquel 7. If I remember right it was an ATI graphics card and in  
Trisquel 7 the driver module was blacklisted. I removed it from the blacklist  
and it worked much better.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-07-19 Thread strypey

What kind of hardware is that? I.e. your output of lspci


strypey@BISHOP:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Memory  
Controller Hub (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express  
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME,  
943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition  
Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 1  
(rev 02)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 2  
(rev 02)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 3  
(rev 02)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family PCI Express Port 4  
(rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI  
Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI  
Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI  
Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.3 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB UHCI  
Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family USB2 EHCI  
Controller (rev 02)

00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev e2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GBM (ICH7-M) LPC Interface Bridge  
(rev 02)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7-M Family) SATA  
Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 02)

00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter  
(PCI-Express) (rev 01)

03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR8132 Fast Ethernet (rev c0)



[Trisquel-users] Are all Atheros Wifi cards libre?

2015-07-19 Thread matthewdoncates
I have a Lenovo Ideapad Y400 and have recently switched to solely Trisquel,  
which consequently disabled my Intel Centrino N 2230 because it runs on  
proprietary firmware. I was curious if all of the Atheros mini pci-e wifi  
cards would be compatible.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Are all Atheros Wifi cards libre?

2015-07-19 Thread greatgnu
As far as I know all the Atheros wifi cards series AR9xxx and AR5xxx work  
just fine. I have a couple (I bought one more and keep it ready for the  
future..) of AR928X and they work splendidly! Cost 15 dollars for 2 wifi  
cards. You can find them even for 5 bucks.

cheers!


Re: [Trisquel-users] New arrival

2015-07-19 Thread moxalt
I'd personally rather buy one from Gluglug anyway, for the hardware
improvements, extra stuff, and Intel proprietary CPU stuff removed from ROM, as
well as Libreboot.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Decentralised server: BeagleBoneBlack as a mail server/other services? Your experience?

2015-07-19 Thread legimet . calc
Why do you keep talking about Libreboot? Such embedded devices usually use a  
bootloader such as Das U-Boot: http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread strypey
I'm running a fairly fresh install (from a few days ago) of Trisquel 7  
(32bit), on an Acer Aspire One. I have 1GB memory, which was always enough on  
Trisquel 6, and I'm using a swap partition.


Just updated to ABrowser 39, which crashed repeatedly. I had this page open  
in a tab:

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/radio-talk-show-covering-free-software-declare-your-independence-ernest-hancock

...and the podcast in that thread open in a second tab. I opened a third tab,  
and tried to search !imdb the cartel thrice. The first time I did it from  
the address bar, instant crash. The second time I tried it from the search  
box, instant crash. The third time, I closed the other two tabs and tried it,  
instant crash.


Then I open ABrowser, closed the session restore, and closed the browser.  
Then opened it again. Did the same search in the address bar, instant crash.  
Same again with the search bar. Tried again with the !imdb, same result from  
both address bar and search box.


Then it offered me the choice to refresh ABrowser, which I did. Same search,  
still crashed. Same when I used the search bar in the start page. Tried safe/  
troubleshooting mode, seemed to make no difference.


I'd also like the option to roll back to a previous version when this happens  
with application updates.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-07-19 Thread nicolasmaia

Agreed. Please post this to h-node.


Re: [Trisquel-users] help me choose a configuration

2015-07-19 Thread cooloutac
when you remove icecat,  it might not remove the profile folder in your home  
user directory.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-07-19 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp

Glad to hear you're scrolling again!

To fix the resolution issue it might be worth trying a newer kernel from e.g.  
https://jxself.org/linux-libre/


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread cooloutac
go to system settings,  then click user accounts...  ?  


Re: [Trisquel-users] help me choose a configuration

2015-07-19 Thread cooloutac
 use one of the other options.  the stacks option,  or the jxself repo  
option.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 feedback (with hardware details)

2015-07-19 Thread cooloutac
I would like to know about this script too.  I have installed it and made a  
.desktop file to autostart it in trisquel 7,  but I have run into a problem i  
had to work around.


namely this bug.   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz-fusion-plugins-extra/+bug/819302


Re: [Trisquel-users] GRUB issues

2015-07-19 Thread cooloutac
This happens to me with trisquel 7.  It doesn't accept any username and  
password.   Just remove the 01_PASSWORD file.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread tomlukeywood

have you run sudo apt-get update?


Re: [Trisquel-users] help me choose a configuration

2015-07-19 Thread himself
when removing icecat i selected complete removal and assumed that removed the  
profile too, but I should check.  I removed it manually but it doesn't seem  
to be involved in the cpu use issue.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Decentralised server: BeagleBoneBlack as a mail server/other services? Your experience?

2015-07-19 Thread merwancherif
That's too bad, but at least the data can remain more reliably on a hdd  
(thanks again for the link BCG).


Yeah I know about yacy. I was thinking about searx instead. Butt it seems  
that should work since it's an option on yunohost (thanks Magic Banana).


On the way, I learned about freedom box and the dream plug. BBB is better,  
and is ARM as well (less power consumption). Seems yunohost was first.


Unless there's a serious downside to yunohost, it seems awesome with a future  
Libreboot on the BBB. Even libreboot seems like being overkill since there's  
no AMT/ME on the BBB.


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread greatgnu

I hear Icecat is better anyway.. ;)


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread moxalt
You have actually been doing this in your conversation with tomlukeywood and
gnuser below. As of my whining, you had made a few posts addressing people
across the board, which did actually make it hard to follow.


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread himself
when the pane is locked certain things are greyed out - I would click the  
unlock button and enter password, the lock icon would change, but the greyed  
out items would remain greyed out. At least  think that was what was  
happening, I'm applying hindsight to my confusion now I see how the panel is  
supposed to work. Anyway it works now.


remaining issues:

* why does add remove software show a different set of available packages  
from synaptic?
* cpu craziness, now only caused by libre JS in icecat, but earlier caused by  
a wider range of things. Updating the kernel seems to have helped, but oddly  
not all at once it wasn't like flipping a switch it just improved gradually  
after updating the kernel.


the next 2 are not trisquel issues, but more general:

* not a bug as such, but with MATE and Gnome both installed the panel applet  
in MATE that lets you control network connections is invisible. I believe  
this is a known conflict, and wouldn't a be long term problem as I intend to  
pick one or the other, but if anyone knows how I can switch net connections  
on and off and pick wifi networks etc in MATE without that applet I'd love to  
hear about it as a short term workaround.


* the impossible-to-grab resize corners in windows using GTK2 really bugs me,  
I'm aware of the alt right click alternative, which is great, but not so good  
if controlling the computer one handed while holding a guitar and leaning  
across a table, as I often need to do. this is a point against MATE and for  
Gnome3 fallback, I think, though it seems to depend a bit on the app. Also  
MATE in Mint seems better with the corners, so what is different there? Other  
than that I think I prefer MATE but there are pros and cons.


there are quite a few more issues, that are not bugs as such but general  
issues with GNU/Linux common to all or many distros. Not sure if I should get  
into that as I'm finding I get better answers to obvious small bugs than to  
general why make it like that? type issues.


I guess I'm concerned that if after much work if I get a solid trisquel  
install, and manage to work out a system to transfer it to multiple/new  
computers (looking into remastersys or similar) that the hardware support  
issue of using only free software may bite me in the future - however it is  
now mostly behaving on my laptop, though it was totally not usable on first  
install.


So there's a defined issue, why does a system that behaves fine running off a  
live USB stick seem to have major hardware issues when actually installed on  
the same system?


Having got a setup I like then being able to backup and transfer it easily  
between machines or reinstall a clean system with all my apps in place on the  
same machine is very important to me, and I haven't really tried it yet.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Advertising Trisquel FLOSS

2015-07-19 Thread tomlukeywood
i know how to use kdenlive(video editor) and have made several projects using  
it before

and i know more of less how to use gimp

so i could help with some advertising


Re: [Trisquel-users] help me choose a configuration

2015-07-19 Thread moxalt
Seconded. Just use Abrowser if you want less hassle.

PS. To completely remove a package (binaries and config files) type apt-get
purge package.


Re: [Trisquel-users] New arrival

2015-07-19 Thread moxalt
Well said. Support freedom.

What I meant by 'Intel proprietary CPU stuff'- I didn't mean BIOS but Intel AME
and AMT. I have no clue what they are, but Gluglug have gotten rid of them too,
as well as replacing the BIOS.


[Trisquel-users] Advertising Trisquel FLOSS

2015-07-19 Thread Vinzenz Vietzke
Hi,

I was thinking about Trisquel and how it gets recognized in the (tech)
public sphere. While digging trough the wiki I stumbled upon the
article on Proposed policies, procedures,  solutions where it states:
Team Leaders
[...]
marketing / press relations / artwork lead / active in fund raising (to
learn about and write up press releases, seek donations, etc)

Is there anyone working on that parts of Trisquel? If not, are there
people around willing to join me in forming a team for public relations
and such?

vinz.


Re: [Trisquel-users] 'Abrowser' behaves strangely after a system update.

2015-07-19 Thread nicolasmaia

64-bit.


Re: [Trisquel-users] experience with Trisquel mini

2015-07-19 Thread himself
i tried again. I have been looking in synaptic and unetbootin doesn't show.  
maybe i am searching wrong? i just tried add/remove applications again and  
unetbootin is there. why are the 2 methods different? aren't they both  
searching the same repo?


now i have a gui glitch preventing me from actually selecting it...