Re: [Trisquel-users] What's your favorite not-so-famous application on Trisquel?

2016-04-25 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp

The GIMP and Inkscape are famous but great.

Besides them I really like the various viewers of OpenStreetMap, like Marble,  
openstreetmap-client, emerillon and the editors for the same, like  
merkaartor.


[Trisquel-users] GNU Rates GitHub & SourceForge With "F" Ratings

2016-04-25 Thread tegskywalker

http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=GNU-Ethical-Code-Host-Ratings

GitLab got a C and GNU Savannah got an A as well. They gave Savannah an A  
probably because its their product even though its inferior to the majority  
of Git services (GitHub or local GitLab) out there.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Firewall, ssh server... security in general

2016-04-25 Thread lcerf

I saw it. Popcorn Time. ;-)


Re: [Trisquel-users] What's your favorite not-so-famous application on Trisquel?

2016-04-25 Thread davidpgil
I love "Back in Time", I guess its somewhat famous, but I think its way  
better than the stock Backup app and easier to use than command-line backup  
apps.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What's your favorite not-so-famous application on Trisquel?

2016-04-25 Thread davidpgil

KMyMoney looks pretty cool! Thanks!


[Trisquel-users] Bookmark Sync in Icecat or Abrowser

2016-04-25 Thread davidpgil
Greetings all! Has anyone been able to get bookmark syncing to work in either  
Abrowser or Icecat with the the latest Trisquel distro? Seems with Abrowser  
it just hangs on login and with Icecat you need to login everytime you wish  
to sync.


Is anyone else seeing this? Any options on how I can have Firefox-style  
bookmark syncing in Trisquel?


Thanks.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icons on the bottom panel -- remove?

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus
Hold down the ALT key and right-click on the icon. a tiny menu will pop up  
where you can choose to move or delete the icon.  Many people, myself  
included, have found this design unnecessarily confusing.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icons on the bottom panel -- remove?

2016-04-25 Thread davidpgil
Definietly agree. It took me a while to get used to the wierdness of the  
Panel.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Using MATE for Trisquel 8 was smart, considering that some say Ubuntu MATE is the best version

2016-04-25 Thread nicolasmaia
Everyone is talking about MATE in Trisquel 8, but no one came up with a  
source for that :P


[Trisquel-users] Icons on the bottom panel -- remove?

2016-04-25 Thread Harris Paltrowitz

Hey all,

I've ended up placing app icons on the very bottom of my screen (one on 
purpose and one accidentally) but I can't figure out how to remove 
them...  when I right-click I get Launch and Properties, with no option 
to delete/remove...


Any thoughts?  Thanks.
Harris


Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : Firewall, ssh server... security in general

2016-04-25 Thread Harris Paltrowitz

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:21 PM, lc...@dcc.ufmg.br wrote:
With a "personal firewall" (I am not talking about professional 
usages), proprietary software users protect themselves from the 
programs they installed (that can be remotely controlled by their 
real owners, that can send private information to them, etc.) and 
from those they have not willfully installed but that are there 
anyway (such as Troyan horses). With free software, the first issue 
basically is inexistent (except for Ubuntu's spyware): the users 
control the software. And because crackers do not usually attack 
GNU/Linux (less users, who are not easily duped, who run a great 
variety of applications, who do not run them as root, who have 
automatic security updates, etc.), the second issue essentially is 
inexistent as well.


Thanks for your comments.  I wonder if the crackers will ever start 
attacking GNU/Linux...  as an aside, there's a really fun new TV show 
called Mr. Robot (here in the USA) that features a really good cracker, 
and he uses GNU/Linux at his day job...  cool show, if you get a chance 
to see it.


-Harris


Re: [Trisquel-users] Firewall, ssh server... security in general

2016-04-25 Thread Harris Paltrowitz

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 6:54 PM, great...@riseup.net wrote:

*sudo netstat -tulpn | grep LISTEN* will give you the info on which 
ports are **open and listening** to the netz. You can quietly ignore 
those listening on the localhost (127.0.0.1) for those are not 
visible externally.




Hey thanks.  After I enabled ufw, here's the output of the command you 
mentioned:


tcp 0 0 127.0.1.1:53 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1272/dnsmasq
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:631 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 2120/cupsd  
tcp6 0 0 ::1:631 :::* LISTEN 2120/cupsd  

I will leave CUPS, as I'll definitely be installing a printer.  Any 
thoughts on the other output line?




Btw, welcome!


Thank you!  I hope I'll be staying with Trisquel, and if I do, I'll do 
my part to help with the project in any way I can.


Cheers
Harris


[Trisquel-users] Re : Is searx search engine free software?

2016-04-25 Thread lcerf

Well, it is free software (AGPLv3+), hence hackable.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Bitcoin, OpenBazaar and Minifree/libiquity

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus
Really looking forward to using Taler.  I think they said 2016.  Does anybody  
know of a narrower time frame (i.e. summer, fall, month X, etc...)?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Is searx search engine free software?

2016-04-25 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
So far, there are instances provided by La Quadrature du Net, Searx.me,
and also from Framasoft (FramaBee.org).

So far, Searx is accepted in the Free Software Directory:

http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Searx



[Trisquel-users] Re : Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lcerf
I started up Trisquel from the CD without installing it. Then I mounted the  
internal hard drive where I had installed Trisquel on, but the /proc/ folder  
does not have any content.


That is perfectly normal. /proc only provides an interface to access  
information about the kernel and the processes that are running. It only  
contains "files" when the kernel is running and those are not "regular files"  
(in UNIX and derivatives, anything is a "file"). It relates to absolutely  
nothing on the disk.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Firewall, ssh server... security in general

2016-04-25 Thread lcerf
With a "personal firewall" (I am not talking about professional usages),  
proprietary software users protect themselves from the programs they  
installed (that can be remotely controlled by their real owners, that can  
send private information to them, etc.) and from those they have not  
willfully installed but that are there anyway (such as Troyan horses). With  
free software, the first issue basically is inexistent (except for Ubuntu's  
spyware): the users control the software. And because crackers do not usually  
attack GNU/Linux (less users, who are not easily duped, who run a great  
variety of applications, who do not run them as root, who have automatic  
security updates, etc.), the second issue essentially is inexistent as well.


[Trisquel-users] Is searx search engine free software?

2016-04-25 Thread calmstorm
Its a search engine one that is claimed to be hackable and free software. I  
wondered if it really is...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel-updates PPA

2016-04-25 Thread calmstorm
I think its a good idea for trisquel 7 but i should caution you, trisquel 8  
is coming out in about a month...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Installer keeps crashing

2016-04-25 Thread tomlukeywood

Same to you!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Installer keeps crashing

2016-04-25 Thread tomlukeywood

Its fine now

i solved the problem by installing Debian 8 offline and then i was able to  
use the usb wifi card


so its now running a fully free Debian installation which is fine!


[Trisquel-users] Re : Bitcoin, OpenBazaar and Minifree/libiquity

2016-04-25 Thread lcerf
It is far too easy to escape taxation with Bitcoin and with most  
crypto-currencies. A good electronic payment system (taxable because  
anonymous for the sole buyer) is GNU Taller: https://taler.net/governments


The only problem is: it does not exist yet!


[Trisquel-users] Trisquel-updates PPA

2016-04-25 Thread megver . 2000
I thought on creating a ppa with all packages in Trisquel that have never  
updated since 2014 (e.g. LibreOffice, GIMP, Rhythmbox, and others) and a  
forum in launchpad to discuss there which packages do you want me to upload.  
of course if you want me to update a package, you have to provide me the .deb
i haven´t created the ppa yet, but when doing it, I will post it in the wiki  
and advise you.

I hope you like the idea!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus
What I was referring to was the state of the drive before installation.
From what you are telling me, it sounds like the drive was brand new with  
nothing on it.  Then the installer formated, installed a file system, etc...


Well we did make progress.  The live CD has a non-empty /proc directory and  
it works.  My system has a non-empty /proc directory and it works.  Your HD  
has an empty /proc directory and it doesn't work.


Fixing that may or may not solve the whole problem.  But I think it is a  
strong clue.  I'm going to STFW and give more experienced people a chance to  
help.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Installer keeps crashing

2016-04-25 Thread greatgnu

long time no see, cat :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Firewall, ssh server... security in general

2016-04-25 Thread greatgnu
On a default Trisquel installation there are very few open listening ports if  
I remember correctly.


*sudo netstat -tulpn | grep LISTEN* will give you the info on which ports are  
**open and listening** to the netz. You can quietly ignore those listening on  
the localhost (127.0.0.1) for those are not visible externally.



> A firewall is not needed in Linux

True, when and if there are no open listening ports (Ubuntu by default).

An excellent practice IMHO is to purge any and every service you don't need.  
For example, if you don't have a printer do you really need cups?


Mind that we are very precise with some words here - we call linux the kernel  
and GNUx the OS.


Btw, welcome!






[Trisquel-users] Installer keeps crashing

2016-04-25 Thread tomlukeywood
I am trying to install Trisquel on a friends net book (1GB RAM 1.6ghz dual  
core CPU 60GB HDD)


on both Trisquel and Trisquel mini the installers both crashed giving no  
reason other than "the installer has crashed"


i have tried the net installer but as both the internal wifi card and  
Ethernet card don’t seem to work with free software
i am using a external wifi adapter which is not reconised for some reason by  
the net install
net install seems to otherwise be working fine though so if anyone can think  
of a solution to it i could just use net install.


Trisquel and Trisquel mini both work fine when run live from the usb stick  
though.


dose anyone have any ideas?

thanks in advance!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lorenz
I started up Trisquel from the CD without installing it. Then I mounted the  
internal hard drive where  I had installed Trisquel on, but the /proc/ folder  
does not have any content.


> Did you format the drive?
While the installation I choose the whole drive to be used, so the installer  
would create new partitions I assume (I didn't manually format the hard  
drive, because the installer normally overwrites everything itself by  
creating new partitions) and copied all necessary data. I didn't manually  
configure the partitions while installation. That's why I don't understand  
why this directory is empty.


> What file system did you put on it?
I don't understand the question. What do you mean by “what file system”?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lorenz
Yes the lsmod.txt was generated by the live system running from the CD. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus

"The /proc/ folder on the hard drive is completely empty."

That doesn't sound good.  Did you format the drive?  What file system did you  
put on it?




Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus
This file: lsmod.txt  is it from the hard drive install, or the LiveCD?  My  
guess is that it is from the LiveCD, since you can't run commands so easily  
when you are in the hard drive installation.  When you use the LiveCD and  
mount the hard drive, navigate the hard drive and find the file /proc/modules  
 and post a copy of it here.  Then we can compare it to lsmod.txt and see  
where they differ.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Bitcoin, OpenBazaar and Minifree/libiquity

2016-04-25 Thread cubalibre2398

One can accept Bitcoin in two ways
 * directly, which involves certain risks (Wikipedia is your friend)
 * through a service which transfers bitcoins to your local currency, for a  
fee, which involves other risks (as in "things that happen in a free market  
economy)


Bitcoin is a legal payment system in the EU. Tax-wise bitcoin turnover is to  
be converted to your local currency and then taxed. Any reasonably educated  
tax advisor can deal with this and if they're unsure, they simply call the  
local tax office for a best-practice. Every tax office knows about bitcoin  
ånd/or other digital currencies.
While the 2nd option from above (payment through a payment provider) does  
make this easier and they do that work for the receiving end (it's then  
handled like an e.g. PayPal account by your tax advisor), which might be  
worth the fee. Bank accounts and payments procession is not gratis either in  
most cases.


Question is, should you trust bitcoin more than yet another payment provider.  
The answer to that is rather easy, because bitcoin is a payment system and  
not a greedy company that drowns little kittens.
The payment methods mentioned by the previous poster, involve *huge*  
charge-back risks for the receiving end of the transaction, so it makes sense  
to avoid them. Bank transfer doesn't involve any risks like that. Using an  
ethical bank makes that even more fun.


In any case, bitcoin is _not_ the answer to everything and simply just  
another payment method. If someone doesn't want to implement a payment method  
for their own reasons, let them, we're a free people.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lorenz

Ahh ok, thanks!

Ok then I can skip the installation of another kernel.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lorenz
Your right I had a USB drive attached and unplugged it without unmounting it  
properly.
I executed dmesg again without the USB drive and attached the output again.  
The last line has disappeared.


But there are still these lines:
[8.479878] usb 1-5.3: new full-speed USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd
[8.493564] usb 1-5.3: New USB device found, idVendor=0a5c, idProduct=216d
[8.493573] usb 1-5.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,  
SerialNumber=3

[8.493578] usb 1-5.3: Product: BCM43142A0
[8.493582] usb 1-5.3: Manufacturer: Broadcom Corp
[8.493586] usb 1-5.3: SerialNumber: 606DC7E93E3A
There is no USB device attached to the laptop from the outside. Strangely  
this 1-5.3 device is the one  I stumble upon yesterday: . . . .[83.219575]  
1-5.3: Missing Free firmware

What is this device?


The /proc/ folder on the hard drive is completely empty. It exists but  
there's no content in it. Already installed Trisquel another time, maybe the  
commands by runner8 deleted them (I don't get this binding), but this folder  
is still empty.

I've attached the output of lsmod.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread danigaritarojas
> Science denialism should be punishable by law like holocaust denialism is  
in some parts of the world. Take climate change for instance. There's a  
consensus on that.


Would you like me to tell you to just shut the fuck up? Would you?
Maybe you will like it better if I just tell you to shut the fuck up, then  
kick you and throw you to jail?
No? Then that's why no one should ever make illegal to deny something, nor  
science, nor the holocaust, nor religion.


[Trisquel-users] Firewall, ssh server... security in general

2016-04-25 Thread Harris Paltrowitz
Hi all,

I’m a new users of Trisquel, and I’d like to give it a thorough tryout — I do 
like it a lot so far.  My question is about firewalls and related security 
items — I’ve done some research and now I have specific questions.

First, I’ve read on the Trisquel forum that gufw (which is a GUI front-end to 
ufw, which is a front-end to iptables) is a popular and possibly even 
recommended “firewall” for Linux.  Now, I had recently been using Debian, and 
after merely installing and enabling ufw, I listed out the output of “iptables 
-L” and posted it to the debian-user mailing list, asking whether this set of 
rules appeared to provide basic, block-all-incoming-connection protection.  
However, after at least one person pointed out several “holes” in these rules, 
I started to get very disconcerted…  Really, all I’m looking for is to feel as 
“relatively comfortable” as someone who uses Windows or Mac and merely enables 
the built-in firewall.  I certainly am not interested in delving into any 
arcane logic within the various iptables rules…  I just want something simple 
yet secure!

I’ve also read various forums that say various things in this regard, such as:
1) A firewall is not needed in Linux;
2) A firewall is only needed if the Linux box is running an ssh server;
3) A firewall is not needed as long as one does not use public wifi;
4) Trisquel evidently included an ssh server by default in version 6, but not 
in version 7.

Please help!  Any advice would really be welcome here.  I would define myself 
as someone who has done some shell scripting in the past (mainly in Unix) 
although currently, I want my Linux setup to be as simple and straightforward 
as possible, while offering a high level of security.

Thanks in advance.
-Harris

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus
A new thread was created in the troll hole for this.  I encourage you to  
resume the discussion there:


https://trisquel.info/en/forum/science-denialism-academic-freedom-and-philosophy-science#comment-94661


[Trisquel-users] Re : Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lcerf

The loop mounts virtual filesystems that 'grub-install' requires.

If you have already tried a 4.x kernel, I am afraid trying yet another  
version will not solve the issue. :-S


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus
"Skepticism  is generally any questioning attitude towards unempirical  
knowledge or opinions/beliefs stated as facts"


from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skepticism

I agree with your main point, root_vegetable.  Your use of the term  
"skeptics" in a disparaging way, however, is both incorrect and ironic.  You,  
and several people here with similar views are expressing their skepticism  
toward many of these bullshit ideas.


Maybe you mean "charlatans" or "pseudo-scientists".  Not "skeptics" as that  
disparages yourself.  You are skeptical of ideas without a scientific basis.   
See the skeptics society and/or read the wikipedia article posted above.


I'm just trying to make sure you point our indignation in the right  
direction!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread strypey
> Science denialism should be punishable by law like holocaust denialism is  
in some parts of the world.


This has done *way* off-topic, and I won't be posting further here. However,  
I'm genuinely interested in a (respectful) discussion about the philosophy of  
science, and the boundaries of academic freedom. With people making comments  
like the above, and actually defending them as serious suggestions, it's  
clearly a discussion we need to have.


I find very few of the people that resort to such appeal-to-authority ridden  
arguments have actually studied science beyond high school level, and even  
fewer have studied the philosophy of science at a tertiary level. As it  
happens, I have, and I'm happy to share what I've learned, and learn from  
others. I've opened a table in the Troll Hole for such a discussion here:

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/science-denialism-academic-freedom-and-philosophy-science


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lorenz
I tried the procedure runner8 mentioned. But sadly nothing changes. Could one  
of you please explain to me what's the aim behind this? I don't get the idea  
of this loop.


Next  I'll test the the same thing but trying to install a newer kernel like  
Magic Banana said.
(I already installed a 4.somthing kernel with the NetInstall image but that  
didn't make a change)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus
Well, the last line of dmesg says it can't mount some removable media.  Do  
you have a USB device attached?


The thing is, you are saying the laptop works perfectly when run off the  
liveCD.  Let's compare the modules.  Use the LiveCD to access the  
/proc/modules file that is on the HD and post that here.  Then, while using  
the LiveCD, type: lsmod and post the content here.  We will then compare what  
modules are loaded in each case.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread dguthrie

> degrading people
They are actively spreading pseudo-science, which is harmful both to  
themselves and the people that they have an influence over. They are  
degrading the Trisquel community by doing this; it contributes to the idea  
that free software is for the sort of people who wear "tin foil hats".
They come here spreading their disinformation, peddling lies, thinking they  
can get a free hearing, as if this is some sort of hole for the "skeptics"  
community. They deserve little sympathy.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Bitcoin, OpenBazaar and Minifree/libiquity

2016-04-25 Thread info

bitcoin is difficult accounting wise:
* most accountants don't understand bitcoin
* UK specific: for EU customers,  to GBP exchange rate set by HMRC (UK tax  
authority) must be recorded for VAT purposes. The UK government doesn't seem  
to have exchange rates for bitcoin.
(workaround is to do bitcoin sales in a separate "sole trader" business,  
without VAT, but that is a bit sketchy)


Bitcoin has a lot of practicality issues, at least with UK based businesses.  
This also applies to US businesses.


Minifree basically decided some time ago that using wire transfer is the best  
overall method for now.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lorenz
I rewrote the USB drive with the Trisquel mini image, because the USB drive  
only got a capacity of 1GB and I couldn't use the NetInstall image on a USB  
drive like root_vegetable explained. I realized the installation process  
(with USB drive and CD), of the Trisquel mini image, installs the lowlatency  
kernel. The NetInstall and the standard image (1.5GB image; does this image  
have a name?) both install the generic kernel, why?
But the neither the USB installation nor the lowlatency kernel made a  
difference. The signs are still here.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lorenz

Thanks for all your help guys I appreciate it very much!

I tried to reset the terminal by using the command “reset”. It looks  
similar to my working Asus, but the signs are still here (first a black  
screen and then about a second later the prompt returns).


The output of dmesg is attached.

What log files do you what to look at? Syslog?

Now to the similar problem on askubuntu:
At first I thought the problem with the display occurs randomly. As I  
described above some times Trisquel starts normally but more often this  
gibberish shows up.

About every 10th reboot Trisquel starts normally.
But now after reading the answer in askubuntu I notices the first reboot  
after installing Trisquel always works. I just installed updates then. Many  
updates. It seems to be the case as WillHaley described: “I assume this  
issue presented itself to you "after a few updates" because one of those  
updates triggered a rebuild of initramfs without the necessary video  
driver.” (But still after these updates Trisquel sometimes starts  
correctly)
So I compared the output of “lsinitramfs /initrd.img” and “lsinitramfs  
/initrd.img.old” with diff. Also attached (diff.txt). The rebuild of  
initramfs seems to remove quiet some stuff. But to be honest I can't really  
do anything with this. Can you?

Scrolling through diff.txt I noticed the following lines:
< lib/modules/3.13.0-39-lowlatency/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915
< lib/modules/3.13.0-39-lowlatency/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko
So I tried to add combinations like

lib/modules/3.13.0-39-lowlatency/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915
lib/modules/3.13.0-39-lowlatency/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko

or

/etc/mkinitcpio.conf
MODULES="i915"

or

lib/modules/3.13.0-39-lowlatency/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915
lib/modules/3.13.0-39-lowlatency/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko
/etc/mkinitcpio.conf
MODULES="i915"

to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules. (did this via the live system started from  
the CD)
Then I restarted back into the gibberish. There I logged in with my user name  
and may password. Then I executed “sudo update-initramfs -u”. Typed my  
password again and rebooted. But still the same thing …
I'm completely unexperienced with initramfs so if I did something wrong, let  
me know.
Also I'm not quiet sure if the i915 driver suits my Intel Celeron N3050  
Grafics Unit.



I also tried adding
video=i915:modeset=1 i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 i915.lvds_downclock=1  
i915.i915_enable_fbc=1 pcie_aspm=force
to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT property in /etc/default/grub and updated  
grub. This procedure was described here:  
http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/showthread.php?t=48904


Until now I didn't test runner8's assumption. I will do this next.

If I described something not good enough to understand, please let me know I  
will give my best to reformulate it in other words.

Do you require any more information?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Will Trisquel 8 embrace Snap packaging for custom, Trisquel specific, applications?

2016-04-25 Thread tegskywalker
I'm still not 100% on the Snap packaging since this is only version 1.0, but  
I have been seeing a lot of text that says "Upload your snaps to the Ubuntu  
Store" which reminds me of an App Store model to get and update them like the  
Apple App Store, Google Play, and the Windows 10 Store.


I just hope its not tethered to Canonical's store as the only way to actually  
use them. :-(


Re: [Trisquel-users] Does anyone know *why* there are [generally] limited free-software Broadcom drivers?

2016-04-25 Thread enduzzer
Broadcom wants to keep secrets. They're afraid of losing unique selling  
points or differentiation. The driver is usually open-sourced but the  
firmware that runs on the device is closed source proprietary. Broadcom  
doesn't make wifi cards, I think. They only supply the chip and they don't  
want to lose control over their OEM manufacturers. Like MS doesn't tell OEM  
manufacturers what Windows source code looks like.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Does anyone know *why* there are [generally] limited free-software Broadcom drivers?

2016-04-25 Thread lcerf
Is it a case that once the kernel included the blobs, and Ubuntu included the  
blobbed kernel, most people simply lost interest?


I think so. Notice that the driver probably is under the GPL. The firmware  
(i.e., the code that the kernel sends to the device to run there, not on the  
main CPU) is proprietary.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus

Did you follow up on this post I made:


This person has a similar problem. It looks like modifying the initramfs may  
be a solution.


https://askubuntu.com/questions/629922/linux-full-disk-encryption-password-prompt-completely-unreadable  
same problem:




[Trisquel-users] Does anyone know *why* there are [generally] limited free-software Broadcom drivers?

2016-04-25 Thread mountainmoksha

This is not a question I really know how to plug into DuckDuckGo effectively.

Is it a case that once the kernel included the blobs, and Ubuntu included the  
blobbed kernel, most people simply lost interest?


Or are the technical challenges of these chipsets such that its development  
is more difficult than other things?


Are there any parallels here with the nouveau project? I'm generally pretty  
impressed with nouveau's current capability, and their website says that  
nVidia only offers minimal assistance to the project.


While I don't think it's particularly germane to the conversation, I'll  
mention that my Alienware m17x R3 has this in it:


06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n  
Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)


And since I'm in lspci, this is my graphics chipset. Would I potentially be  
much less impressed with nouveau if I had something else?


02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G92M [GeForce GTX 260M]  
(rev a2)




Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread greatgnu
I remember I had a very similar issue when I tried to install GNU on my  
sister's old lapy with an nvidia GPU. I had just a few hours to do it for she  
lives far from me and I did not manage, the text on the screen was gibberish  
and there were also several glitches and artifacts on screen. I think what  
you got there is related to your GPU.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread 0d54770d
I've read through this thread, and I wanted to make a point. This forum was  
designed to discuss ideas related to free software. I understand that people  
have opinions on a variety of other issues, whether they be right or wrong,  
but I don't see this as the most appropriate place for such topics; it  
detracts from our fundamental goal here, which is to help spread the message  
of free software.


For what Trisquel is trying to accomplish, it doesn't really matter what  
one's position on vaccines is, or the holocaust, or any of those things, and  
I think that focusing on degrading people for things unrelated to free  
software is unproductive and childish. If you wish to have conversations  
about these issues, that is fine; just make sure that it's in a place  
designed for such discussions.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Bitcoin, OpenBazaar and Minifree/libiquity

2016-04-25 Thread greatgnu

Just wanted to chime in to say that killing birds is really very wrong.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Fresh Trisquel installation shows mystical signs

2016-04-25 Thread lorenz

> Do you dual/multiboot?
No, I don't use multiboot. There is no other os installed on the hard drive  
only Trisquel.


> I don't think that's related but try older or newer (Linux-libre) kernels.
I also installed a 4.something kernel with the net install image. But same  
thing here.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread mnaus
Sometimes it only takes a 4th grade science project to debunk a  
pseudo-science:


" Emily Rosa, at 9 years of age, conceived and executed a study on  
therapeutic touch. With the help of Stephen Barrett from Quackwatch, and with  
the assistance of her mother, Linda Rosa, RN, Emily became the youngest  
research team member to have a paper accepted by the Journal of the American  
Medical Association (JAMA) for her part in a study of therapeutic touch,  
which debunked the claims of therapeutic touch practitioners."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therapeutic_touch#Scientific_investigations

P.S. I know I said I was only making the one post in this thread.  The key  
word was THIS thread--i.e. remotely resembling the topic of the OP: The  
Canonical/MS project.  This has gone so far away from the original topic, it  
has become a thread unto itself.  A thread that really belongs in "The Troll  
Hole" IMHO.  Don't get me wrong, I like a good discussion of scientific  
epistemology as much as the next person.  Normally, however, this forum is  
saved for helping people with technical problems.  If some of the veterans  
here are concerned with how this will all look to newcomers, and I think they  
are right to give that some consideration, then relegating this to the Troll  
Hole is really the appropriate way to go.




Re: [Trisquel-users] What's your favorite not-so-famous application on Trisquel?

2016-04-25 Thread jabjabs
At the last Free software Melbourne (Australia) meetup - we had a great show  
and tell session for a load of great programs.


The ones we covered where as follows.

Screen ruler - You can place an on ruler on you screen so that you can easily  
measure elements.
Red shift - Allows the screen to remove blue tones late in the night so that  
you can sleep easier.

Pandocs - Turns a bunch of mark down comments into a HTML based presentation.
Plus, An incredibly cool yet to be named/completed plugin for Firefox based  
browsers that allows the audio to be pushed out to jacked.


I would recommend them all!




Re: [Trisquel-users] Will Trisquel 8 embrace Snap packaging for custom, Trisquel specific, applications?

2016-04-25 Thread jabjabs
I guess it really depends on how they are handled, if the Trisquel team want  
to maintain snap packages then why not? It is still free software so the  
issue is only with the technology and not the ethics.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread enduzzer

Science denialism is all about politics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchants_of_Doubt


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread onpon4
Christianity probably became the official religion of Rome for political  
reasons. I don't think it had anything to do with science. Also, note that  
it's not like a secular nation suddenly became religious; it's just that the  
official religion of Rome changed.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread onpon4
Indeed. Sad, but we just have go go by the reputation of specific journals  
and publishers. If someone doesn't have a reputation, we just have to assume  
that they are not credible.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Will Trisquel 8 embrace Snap packaging for custom, Trisquel specific, applications?

2016-04-25 Thread mohamadi . salman
I'm not a Snap packaging expert. Do you mean, for instance, getting the  
source code of the latest version of VLC and make a Snap package and  
introduce it for those who want having the latest version of VLC on Trisquel?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows and Ubuntu Might Become the Same Thing?

2016-04-25 Thread dguthrie

There is no debate.


Re: [Trisquel-users] video editing on a desktop/ server with only free software

2016-04-25 Thread strypey
Thanks for the suggestion Lembas. I can't help but point out though that  
"instead of using some purpose made server software", I could try to roll my  
own mailserver or listserver, or my own version of what GNU Social or  
MediaGoblin does. Given my extremely limited knowledge of server-side  
software, including the security implications you mention, it will generally  
be a better idea for me to pick a widely-deployed, purpose-made package  
instead. But I'm assuming you are making this suggestion because no such  
package exists, or can be run in full freedom, so again, thanks for the tips.


One I had vaguely heard of (and remembered about today) is Kaltura. Has  
anyone tried (or heard of anyone trying) to run Kaltura (GNU AGPL) on a  
server running only libre software?

http://corp.kaltura.com/Deployment-Options/Kaltura-Community-Edition