Re: [Trisquel-users] Web app (for work, so non free) not accessible through Abrowser

2016-08-22 Thread onpon4

That might be worthwhile.

If that doesn't work, you might be out of luck. Perhaps you should ask your  
employer to supply a computer that will work with these programs. What's it  
for, anyway?


Re: [Trisquel-users] How about a survey to measure how much Trisquel user prefer that Trisquel is based on Ubuntu instead of Debian

2016-08-22 Thread Ignacio Agulló


 This one arrived OK... until this line:

agu...@ati.es, Mar 23 Ago 2016 02:47:01 CEST:



 Here go the problematic symbols toghether:


 Nothing afterwards.  Yes, if you read it at the website it is  
complete... but if you get the message through e-mail it is not.  So  
here it is the problem, and now that I managed to reproduce it, I  
posted a bug report.



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Re: [Trisquel-users] How about a survey to measure how much Trisquel user prefer that Trisquel is based on Ubuntu instead of Debian

2016-08-22 Thread Ignacio Agulló


 This one arrived OK.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] How about a survey to measure how much Trisquel user prefer that Trisquel is based on Ubuntu instead of Debian

2016-08-22 Thread agullo

Ignacio Agulló , Dom 14 Ago 2016 21:46:15 CEST:

> dguth...@posteo.net, Dom 14 Ago 2016 21:37:55 CEST:
>
>>
>>
>
> Fascinating.

 Well, probably nobody understood that.  I was making a reply to an empty  
message.


 But it wasn't empty, or was it?  Why would a message be empty of  
content, or why would I reply to it as if it was empty of content if it  
wasn't?


 Answer is, it arrived empty to me.  Empty as in, the message source was  
empty of content, as in it had nothing more than the headers.


 But when reading the forum at the website, it isn't empty at all.  What  
happened?


 Seems that root_vegetable broke the message processing.  Probably  
through using the "less than" sign together with the 3 number to make a  
sideways heart.  So I will now try to reproduce the problem, so I can make an  
accurate bug report afterwards.


 Here go the problematic symbols, separated by a space: < 3

 Here go the problematic symbols toghether: 


Re: [Trisquel-users] How about a survey to measure how much Trisquel user prefer that Trisquel is based on Ubuntu instead of Debian

2016-08-22 Thread Ignacio Agulló

Ignacio Agulló , Dom 14 Ago 2016 21:46:15 CEST:


dguth...@posteo.net, Dom 14 Ago 2016 21:37:55 CEST:






Fascinating.


 Well, probably nobody understood that.  I was making a reply to  
an empty message.


 But it wasn't empty, or was it?  Why would a message be empty of  
content, or why would I reply to it as if it was empty of content if  
it wasn't?


 Answer is, it arrived empty to me.  Empty as in, the message  
source was empty of content, as in it had nothing more than the headers.


 But when reading the forum at the website, it isn't empty at  
all.  What happened?


 Seems that root_vegetable broke the message processing.   
Probably through using the "less than" sign together with the 3 number  
to make a sideways heart.  So I will now try to reproduce the problem,  
so I can make an accurate bug report afterwards.


 Here go the problematic symbols, separated by a space: < 3

 Here go the problematic symbols toghether: <3

 I might be posting this message twice if needed to reproduce the  
problem, one time from my e-mail service and another from the forum  
directly.  This time it goes from my e-mail service.



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Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-08-22 Thread luke . leighton
you can download the CAD source *right now* - i will have to make some  
modifications but it's all there.

https://www.youmagine.com/designs/libre-hardware-licensed-parametric-laptop-design

crowdsupply is slightly different, you'll be able to put in pledges after the  
campaign ends, and it will run indefinitely as a "shop"... *after* the  
campaign's run - that's all handled by crowdsupply *not* by me.


now, when i get to Taiwan, *as long as* there is spare cash i will be  
over-ordering on some of the components.  so yes you'll be able to "buy"...  
but not whilst i am in the legal jurisdiction of the United States.  it's a  
crowd-funding campaign, it's a gift economy (not "orders"), i did *NOT* bring  
in "products for the solicitation of orders", i did NOT bring in "samples"  
into the United States, it's right there on the Customs form that i declared  
on entering the United States on a 90 day visa waiver, so please don't ask me  
to "sell" you anything, okay? :)





Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-08-22 Thread luke . leighton
if you set up a beowulf cluster for example you'd do fine.  or you set up a  
data centre where each computer card was totally independent.  or if you used  
them as front-ends with DNS round-robin and set up an alternative NAS / SQL  
distributed cluster...  basically it's about software (and setting it up).   
all the software already exists... it's all related to server / clustering.   
if you're expecting to have multiple computer cards and speed up *desktop*  
applications, forget it.





Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-08-22 Thread christian
Would it be possible to buy the pfy laptop housing kit a couple of weeks  
after the campaign ends?  If so, from where?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting debian fsf approved

2016-08-22 Thread dguthrie
Some packages in Debian link to specific parts of the documentation that  
recommended nonfree software. FSF does not like this one bit.


It is not the problem with the ISO. The ISO is just a means of distributing  
an operating system for testing and installing. And then you install Debian  
8, which the FSF cannot endorse. Basically, your "libre ISO" promotes a  
non-free distribution in the eyes of the FSF. It is as simple as that.


Point is, anything that is Debian gets rejected. Only something like  
gNewSense which is a significant amount of work purging offending packages  
and anything they depend on, while being independent from Debian project is  
going to get approval.


And if that is what you want, go and help gNewSense for crying out loud!


[Trisquel-users] Re : suggestions to uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2016-08-22 Thread pinmaritim

What about LXQT ?
http://lxqt.org/images/screenshots/ambiance.png



Re: [Trisquel-users] Web app (for work, so non free) not accessible through Abrowser

2016-08-22 Thread mcz
Sorry, I meant that since the 7 didn't work as I thought, I tried the 6 as  
well.


So I guess I should try the 8 from a ppa?


Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-08-22 Thread svhaab
In a video lkcl says connecting several pc cards to achive a faster computer  
is not an option. https://youtu.be/GspUDdNlsng?t=1316

Because of the hardware or because software is not available?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting debian fsf approved

2016-08-22 Thread svhaab

>you miss the point entirely
Then explain it in more detail. How does debian go wrong when you have  
installed debian 8 main?
If 'synaptic package manager' provides an unacceptable gui to instal non free  
repositories then leave it out of the iso and let an update application only  
update main.
I still do not understand why an iso like I described cannot get fsf  
approval? I do not see distributions like gnew and trisquel as viable options  
for the reasons I already mentioned. I do think it is important that fsf can  
show a maintained and not difficult to install free software system.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates) 4

2016-08-22 Thread dguthrie

502 Bad Gateway :-/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates) 4

2016-08-22 Thread legimet . calc

What happened to devel.trisquel.info?


Re: [Trisquel-users] suggestions to uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2016-08-22 Thread dguthrie

Gtk2 is outdated. Gtk3 is the feature and it is great they support it soon.
Xfce always did drain power more than Lxde and various window managers. To be  
honest Gtk is not going to make much difference compared to screen  
brightness, WiFi etc.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Full screen at full resolution slow for some games

2016-08-22 Thread dguthrie
STK runs reasonably well on 8G desktop with cheap OEM Nvidia card. But only  
at settings level 3. So I think the problem is these games are just too hard  
for x200 to handle.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Full screen at full resolution slow for some games

2016-08-22 Thread onpon4

I would bet money on STK not running well at all.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays (development updates) 4

2016-08-22 Thread bernardlprf

Thanks quidam ;) great work


Re: [Trisquel-users] Web app (for work, so non free) not accessible through Abrowser

2016-08-22 Thread onpon4
Why would you use version 6? That's the ancient version of Java. Use version  
7 or even version 8.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Web app (for work, so non free) not accessible through Abrowser

2016-08-22 Thread mcz
I also tried the version 6 but there's still some loading error (not much to  
work on) that doesn't exist on Windows.


It's nearly working, but not yet.
I tried updating everything and restarting the PC.

Don't mind the outdated OS warning though, it happens on Windows as well.

Is there some parameter to teawk regarding icedtea?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot bug,

2016-08-22 Thread no-email

My Libreboot X200 doesn't have this bug (20160818 released)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot bug,

2016-08-22 Thread dguthrie

Don't ask here, ask on Libreboot mailing list/IRC.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Web app (for work, so non free) not accessible through Abrowser

2016-08-22 Thread lcerf
IcedTea, which is in Trisquel's repository, allows your browser to execute  
Java applets. Install "icedtea-7-plugin".


Re: [Trisquel-users] suggestions to uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2016-08-22 Thread calmstorm
I really hope they don't go to GTK3 though, as it drains battery power more  
than GTK2 according to what I have heard about it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Live USB or install to USB?

2016-08-22 Thread calmstorm
You are right freedom is restricted by windows, but there is an even bigger  
issue,


THIS: It is even worse for your privacy and security.






[Trisquel-users] Libreboot bug,

2016-08-22 Thread calmstorm
It would seem that my x200 libreboot laptop when not plugged in beeps even  
though it is at 80% battery life.


I know now it this bug has to do with low battery life, but this clearly  
isn't the case.


Although oddly enough it has stopped but I don't know why...

Could be that anything under 80% causes problems...

Can anyone confirm this bug as having happened?

If so let me know, this is just plain weird...

Not trying to be ungrateful, libreboot is a good project, but this bug has me  
kind of baffled.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Web app (for work, so non free) not accessible through Abrowser

2016-08-22 Thread mcz
Looks like too much trouble. After restartiing Abrowser, I have no java  
warning, but I fail to completely download or make the .exe work (error, and  
no way to run it in sandbox mode).


I'll try to run Windows on a virtual machine.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Light alternative to LibreOffice to work with libre formats and Microsoft Office proprietary formats?

2016-08-22 Thread danifulldrive

Thank you all for suggestions :)


[Trisquel-users] Web app (for work, so non free) not accessible through Abrowser

2016-08-22 Thread mcz
It roughly says: "Microsoft doesn't support XP anymore, it's highly  
recommended that you use an up-to-date OS (and not "browser").


I partially solved it by using Random Agent Spoofer set on MSIE 10. Now I  
only have a partial warning.

But it says I need Java installed.
Is it not installed by default? is it non-free?
Looks like I have my answer here:  
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/any-way-replace-java


After installing a bunch of java stuff from the repo, it still gives me the  
warning and prompts me for an .exe download which I can't execute.
And the app still thinks the OS is outdated, as it should since I did nothing  
to solve that point.

But it seems it's only a warning.

Worst case, I'll go with a Windows virtual machine. But I'm confident there's  
another way.


Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-08-22 Thread luke . leighton
https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/updates/fsf-ryf-background  
big update, background on why i've been doing what i'm doing. links to paul  
boddie's insightful post as well as the valve/steam - intel collaboration a  
couple years back.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Full screen at full resolution slow for some games

2016-08-22 Thread mcz
Yes, it's a librebooted X200. In a way, it is reassuring : the machine might  
have what it takes then.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Full screen at full resolution slow for some games

2016-08-22 Thread mcz

Thanks for the explanation.

I just tried the --renderer sdl command, but the unexpected result was this:  
it started on the laptop screen only.

At the second attempt, both screen were on (mirrored).

After closing SuperTux, I had to use the xrandr specific command to get my  
external screen back.


The good news is that even at the biggest available resolution (3200  
something, way bigger than my external screen resolution), it's super fluid.
The result on screen is exactly the same as the smallest resolution (640  
something).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Full screen at full resolution slow for some games

2016-08-22 Thread mcz
I can confirm that there's no private convo going on with me involved. I  
should definitely try SuperTuxKart and see how it runs though.


[Trisquel-users] Re : suggestions to uruk gnu/linux 2.0

2016-08-22 Thread pinmaritim
Here is a distribution that has an "easy access"xfce desktop with a Main  
menu.


https://handylinux.org/index-en.html

I do agree Mate is lightweight and maybe more accessible than XFCE