Re: [Trisquel-users] Proposed Project: GOLD - Gaming on Linux Distribution
> Why else would they have liberated what they have? A lot of reasons really, and I can only speculate, but the most significant contributions to libre software gaming by far have been those by id Software. These contributions were made, as far as I can tell, because the engines were obsolete and it gave id Software a little street cred in the open source crowd, which was big at the time. The other one I'm familiar with is The Ur-Quan Masters, which was probably given the source code release because it was about to become an abandonware obscurity and, fortunately, the original developers were able to get back the copyrights to it and scrounge up the 3DO source code. Under normal circumstances, not only would that release have been legally impossible, the source code would probably be completely lost anyway. > what about all the free code developers and libre artists who might be motivated to fork both the trap and non-trap games, to create fully libre versions? Absolutely do that if you are motivated to do so. It's just as good as developing a new libre game from scratch, and it's much easier in general. > Again, we might be best to just agree to disagree about this and see what happens. Sure thing.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Wireless USB device listed on H-Node as supported by not working
Output of "sudo lsusb" is: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 2357:0107 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 009 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 007 Device 002: ID 04f2:0111 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd KU-9908 Keyboard Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 006 Device 002: ID 0458:003a KYE Systems Corp. (Mouse Systems) NetScroll+ Mini Traveler / Genius NetScroll 120 Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub I've tried rebooting, no joy. I've tried swapping the USB mouse and the USB wireless over, to make sure its not a bung plug.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Proposed Project: GOLD - Gaming on Linux Distribution
"I don't think a distro focused on delivering a gaming experience would have
any sort of effect at all on the behavior of proprietary game developers."
We may have to agree to disagree on this. I acknowledge it will depend on lot
on the success or failure of integrating a user-friendly way for users to
buy/ donate to the games in the distro. I grant that it's a longshot, but
again, it's a vision I find exciting enough to want to work on unpaid (at
least at first ;).
Even if you're right about proprietary developers in general (and the fact
that SteamOS has massively increased interest in releasing games for
GNU/Linux at all suggests otherwise), surely those who have liberated some/
all of their code have some interest in libre gaming, and therefore some
potential to be influenced? Why else would they have liberated what they
have? Maybe you've tried and written about the experience, link me?
Even if you're right about every developer who has a single proprietary
component in their game, what about all the free code developers and libre
artists who might be motivated to fork both the trap and non-trap games, to
create fully libre versions? If we allow the trap and non-trap games to be
used on the distro, even in separate repos, the incentive to do this is
reduced (see I'm trying to ironman you're argument here). One solution that
occurs is only allowing games in the 100% libre repo to use the payment/
donate system, with games in hypothetical trap and non-trap repos (to use
your terms) only able to be downloaded "for testing and review purposes".
"I'm not staunchly against non-trap proprietary games being in such a distro"
I take your point about messaging, but I think the point of disagreement is
about what counts as being "in the distro". In my mind, items in special
repos, clearly marked in the game library according to their exact non-libre
status with big flashing warnings, are not "in the distro". Anymore than
everything on the web is "in the distro" just because it can be accessed
through the browser ('web library', so to speak) that is in the distro.
I explained in my blog piece (linked in my recent comment) what I think the
gain is. Again, we might be best to just agree to disagree about this and see
what happens.
[Trisquel-users] Re : Wireless USB device listed on H-Node as supported by not working
The chipset in that model may have changed... What is the output of the following command (to be executed in a terminal when the adapter is plugged)? $ lsusb
[Trisquel-users] Wireless USB device listed on H-Node as supported by not working
Hi everyone I bought a USB wireless device today for use with Trisquel: http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/cat-11_TL-WN821N.html I checked while I was at the shop that the model I bought was listed in H-node as working with free code software (no blobs), it said yes: https://h-node.org/wifi/view/en/266/Atheros-Communications-Inc-TP-Link-TL-WN821N-v3-1--Atheros-AR9002-/1/1/undef/undef/undef/undef/wifi-works/wn821n The driver mentioned there seems to be already installed in Trisquel. Install command returned: "open-ath9k-htc-firmware is already the newest version." To cut a long story short, there's no sign that it's being detected or working at all. I did just run an update that included a kernel install: "The following NEW packages will be installed: linux-headers-3.13.0-117 linux-headers-3.13.0-117-lowlatency linux-image-3.13.0-117-lowlatency" I will try a reboot and report back.
[Trisquel-users] Re : New Trisquel 8 alpha images
Trisquel works with the packages in *buntu's repositories, not with a specific edition of the distribution.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Make PC a streaming server
Nextcloud is better than owncloud in my opinion.
Re: [Trisquel-users] AMD Is apparently taking requests for feedback from community.
Good going!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is this as good as it seems? FWGS/xash3d that is a cross-platform libre engine for Half Life 1
Oh, and btw I attach here the answer of the mail.. I would be worried about game code itself. Engine is just a tool to create a game, so while you have an GPL'd Xash3D FWGS engine, you still run non-free game code. Half-Life source code written in C++ and C is avaiable at Half-Life SDK. Half-Life SDK and it's derivates is a property of Valve Software.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is this as good as it seems? FWGS/xash3d that is a cross-platform libre engine for Half Life 1
>Is that a real photo of you? https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5589
Re: [Trisquel-users] AMD Is apparently taking requests for feedback from community.
>I wrote campaigns [at] fsf [dot] org I got an answer from the free software foundation brushing me off. To me a brush off email is, if the email does not answer questions or does not say why questions are not answered. Instead you get some commonplace remarks. I wrote Snowden an email asking him to get a frontrunner for an email campaign towards amd. I did not believe he would answer and he did not. His twitter https://mobile.twitter.com/Snowden/status/837367956229206016 likely had little impact although Snowden has 3 million followers. Had Snowden's twitter contained a link to a coordinated campaign, describing the matter and displaying instructions how and what to write amd, it could have been an effective approach.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Youtube doesn't work in any browser
And this happens on a fresh ff install, u say? Only with youtube? The 2 seconds thing makes me think about the classic situation where flash player is missing but now youtube works just fine with HTML.. Btw, I like this one for yt vids.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Proposed Project: GOLD - Gaming on Linux Distribution
> Excluding these games would cost the hypothetical GOLD user very little in variety of gameplay, and create an incentive for either the copyright holders of the artwork in these games to finish liberating them, or for someone to create fully libre forks. Is this correct? I don't think a distro focused on delivering a gaming experience would have any sort of effect at all on the behavior of proprietary game developers. I see no basis for them to. So just the first half of that sentence is adequate to explain my position. I'm not staunchly against non-trap proprietary games being in such a distro, but I see no benefit in doing so. It seems to just be a way to complicate the message. You can't say "100% libre", for example; you have to say "entirely libre software but with a couple of arbitrary proprietary pieces that are not software, carefully audited to ensure that is the case". That's not as catchy, and it's not as easy to get behind. That's a small price to pay, to be fair, but considering the gain is so tiny, it doesn't seem worthwhile.
Re: [Trisquel-users] why does the free software foundation reject mp3?
As Tonless pointed out, the main reason MP3 is and will remain dominant for some time is the number of hardware music players that play MP3 but not Ogg formats. In fact, the primary reason for patents like the MP3 patent is to constrain the freedom of hardware manufacturers. I'm guessing that a) they got told they'd get sued for patent infringement if they didn't buy an MP3 license, whether they supported MP3 or not and b) one of the conditions of that license was not to support competing technologies. Like someone else said, it's a mafia and a racket.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a good free alternative to Mendeley?
Another interesting project is Authorea, an experiment in creating an academic collaboration platform on top of GIT. Sadly, not all their code is free yet, but hopefully at some point they can be convinced its the right thing to do: https://www.authorea.com/
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is this as good as it seems? FWGS/xash3d that is a cross-platform libre engine for Half Life 1
Is that a real photo of you? Much respect fellow brother of the society for hirsute men :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Proposed Project: GOLD - Gaming on Linux Distribution
"I'm sorry that I made generalized assumptions about the working poor." I appreciate your saying so, and I'm sorry if I overstated my case in those last couple of comments. I value the passion and the deep knowledge of libre gaming that you bring to these discussions. I sincerely hope I can convince you to become involved in the GOLD project in some way. I'm getting the impression you've been at this for a while, and that what I'm interpreting as dismissive contempt on your part is just frustration borne of life in the libre gaming trenches ;) I just ask you to keep in mind that we're on the same side here, aiming for exactly the same long-term goal. Please to focus your contributions on comments that encourage and assist us noobs. >> I do not think it would be useful or appropriate to include the very tiny number of proprietary games with 100% libre source code available
Re: [Trisquel-users] Make PC a streaming server
It's a bit experimental, but you could try WebTorrent.io. There is a demo sites as BitChute.com that shows what it can do.
[Trisquel-users] Youtube doesn't work in any browser
Hello, I can't view any youtube video. The image appears for 1/2 second then i have a black square with the sound. I tried with viewtube, but this is even worse, the video plays normally during 1/2 seconds then stops and replace the image with a black square with an error message above: "ViewTube. Couldn't get the videos content. Please report it here". Is there a solution ? Thanks.
Re: [Trisquel-users] New Trisquel 8 alpha images
I'm wondering if working with Ubuntu MATE (https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-xenial-final-release/) would be less work than with vanilla Ubuntu.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Is Trisquel 6 EOL'ed?
Time to upgrade to Belenos. Come on in, the water's fine ;)
[Trisquel-users] Re : Can you vote to me as a speaker
Yes,it has non-free JS (like many other sites unfortunatly).. ;-(
Re: [Trisquel-users] Can you vote to me as a speaker
THNX for you all I Failed to open the voting form link http://tedxbaghdad.com/about-tedx/get-involved/suggest-a-speaker/ its seme have non free JS I wrote them a long letter About this problem And I told them I can make the site free yourself.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Proposed Project: GOLD - Gaming on Linux Distribution
Thanks for the clarification. I'm envisioning the distro itself being distributed in two forms: a) with no games. Upon first boot, the new user is guided on how use the not-Steam game library client to browse and install games from the repos. This could done with a pop-up tutorial that can be easily cancelled out of, and called up again. b) With a handful of games that show off the best of what libre games (both code and artwork) offer across a range of genres. Ideally involving a number of games that can be played over a network, with an updatable list of libre game servers installed by default. Maybe invites to Libre Game Night pre-loaded into a desktop calendar too ;) Gaming is a social activity for many people, and I suspect that being actively invited into communities of libre gamers would stop some gamers getting bored and giving up. So the core distro, like default Debian, would be 100% libre (including all artwork). The games themselves would be packaged in a set of repos, subdivided in a similar way to the Debian repos into: * 100% libre games * games with 100% libre code but nonfree artwork If making the nonfree repos available by default would keep the distro from being endorsed by the FSF, that's a shame. My view is that the project would fail to live up to its potential if it didn't offer users easy access to every game that runs on an otherwise libre distro. However, getting the GOLD project off the ground will require a collective effort, and if the majority of those involved prefer FSF endorsement and a smaller library of games, I'm happy to abide by the consensus of the working group. It may be possible to make the nonfree games available as a totally separate project, that can be plugged into the GOLD distro by users who really want them (using PPAs, or one of the newer packaging systems like Snap or Flatpak). I would even consider this for a separate repo for games that contain nonfree code (eg scripts included with artwork), but can run properly when the core distro doesn't contain any nonfree code, and whose copyright owners allow non-commercial distribution. My short-term goal is to build something that is significantly more libre than SteamOS, and can be a stepping stone towards a 100% libre gaming experience on Steam Machines (and ideally other gaming hardware).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Can you vote to me as a speaker
..done. cheers
Re: [Trisquel-users] why does the free software foundation reject mp3?
OpenBSD has songs that are released both in mp3 and ogg. Ogg files are constantly smaller. It's easy to compare them when one takes a look at one of their mirrors. https://ftp.eu.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/songs/
[Trisquel-users] Re : Can you vote to me as a speaker
Yes ! i voted too, really looking forward to watching a conference with you & Hayder I vote for you as Presisdent of Irak too Have fun Ali ;-) take care إلى اللِقاء (ilá al-liqāʾ)
