Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop

2017-09-03 Thread intheforest

It stills being 'buggy' ;)


Re: [Trisquel-users] How can I watch youtube videos?

2017-09-03 Thread onpon4
ViewTube doesn't seem to work without scripts enabled anymore. UnPlug still  
works, though.


[Trisquel-users] Re : 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop

2017-09-03 Thread lcerf
No need to apologize.  I was just telling you that you had better request for  
suggestions ("any suggestions? - all are invited to comment") in a smaller  
and clearer post opening a new thread than in a long post at the third page  
of a thread that nobody reads (except you and me and maybe Heather).  Anyway,  
digging https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/all-manuals is a good idea to learn a  
few things.  You can also search the forum (text box in its upper-right  
corner) to see if your question has already been answered.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-03 Thread Libremind
Il giorno Mon,  4 Sep 2017 02:33:25 +0200 (CEST)
jorgesu...@freakspot.net ha scritto:

> When I execute sudo apt-get update I get the following errors or
> warnings:
> 
> W: http://packages.urukproject.org/dists/lugalbanda/InRelease:
> Signature by key F094C518D6F659B7783F25866B3C79D5138BA0FE uses weak
> digest algorithm (SHA1)
This error is caused by weak digest algorithm (SHA1) SHA256 is recommended, 
therefore you should report this to uruk developers.

> W: GPG error: http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/freesh
> freesh InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified
> because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9D0DB31B545A3198
You should import the repo public key:

Download the public key from the website
 wget https://jxself.org/gpg.inc

Verify the fingerprints of the key
 gpg --with-fingerprints gpg.inc

Make sure that you see:
 Key fingerprint = F611 A908 FFA1 65C6 9958 4ED4 9D0D B31B 545A 3198 
 
Then add the key and delete the gpg.inc file
 sudo apt-key add gpg.inc && rm gpg.inc

Try to update and see if it's resolved
 sudo apt update

For more info check the website https://jxself.org/linux-libre/

> W: The repository
> 'http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/freesh freesh
> InRelease' is not signed. N: Data from such a repository can't be
> authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use.
> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user
> configuration details.
> 



Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-03 Thread jorgesumle

When I execute sudo apt-get update I get the following errors or warnings:

W: http://packages.urukproject.org/dists/lugalbanda/InRelease: Signature by  
key F094C518D6F659B7783F25866B3C79D5138BA0FE uses weak digest algorithm  
(SHA1)
W: GPG error: http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/freesh freesh  
InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public  
key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9D0DB31B545A3198
W: The repository 'http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/freesh freesh  
InRelease' is not signed.
N: Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore  
potentially dangerous to use.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration  
details.




Re: [Trisquel-users] I hope SFS will provide an email service to replace openmailbox

2017-09-03 Thread nickth

FSF ?

And what happened with openmailbox was a shame. I was a user almost from day  
one, donating several times (I don't regret it, it was a good service) and  
suddenly, without any prior notice, it stopped working. The shifted gears  
from a free service to a paid one without any prior notice to thousands of  
users. They even changed the IMAP and POP services to subscribers only.


I don't know if FSF ever become an email provider, but for now you can join  
an email alias (acctualy five of them) just becoming a member.  
https://my.fsf.org


Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop

2017-09-03 Thread blogstory
I apologize Magic Banana, for all the questions where not directed at you,  
and I appreciate your assistance, I have a lot to learn, really at every  
keystroke I am facing the unknown in trisquel.


We can close out this thread and I think I will consult the pages and learn  
what I can.
I didn't want to wear out your patience - thanks - you've helped me  
tremendously :)


Sincerely,
Ron


Re: [Trisquel-users] Webrowser Problem

2017-09-03 Thread blogstory
I did not want to wait and play "tag" with this, therefor I toggled the  
javascript.enabled - even though it was in the "true" value before I altered  
anything.
Now, I altered it to "false". It didn't solve the problem, so returned the  
value to "true"


My attempts to post comment about this at the blockchain website failed.
I wanted to mention this problem with the developer of:
https://beta.chainbb.com/forum/chainbb-suggestions

But my attempts fail. It is a membership blockchain forum so without a  
encrypted private key to sign in you can't comment.
This is the 1st time I have failed to load pages or have features fail to  
execute - my comment remains in the box until I send it, then this error is  
displayed -quote:

> "Error Submitting to the Blockchain
Unknown Error, check View -> Devtools for more information.
https://beta.chainbb.com/forum/chainbb-suggestions

transaction.operations = comment,[object Object],comment_options,[object  
Object]	 cause: Symbol is not defined

 stack: u.static_variant/


Re: [Trisquel-users] connman

2017-09-03 Thread masonhock
I ended up just downloading the deb file for network-manager on another  
computer, transferring it over on USB stick, removing connman, and installing  
network-manager via dpkg.


[Trisquel-users] Re : connman

2017-09-03 Thread lcerf
I'm not sure if this is similar enough to the expected output to indicate  
that connmand is running.


It is running.  The command 'connmand --nobacktrace' launched it.  I have no  
idea how 'connmad' is to be configured.


[Trisquel-users] Re : 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop

2017-09-03 Thread lcerf
The Gparted app is gone and it is simpler to use the version in the install  
app


It is not "gone": it has never been installed.  You can use the live system,  
or you can install it: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/add-and-remove-programs  
(it is the third time I point you this manual).


When I run install again - will I have to deal with the boot problem too?

Yes, you will.  The default kernel does not properly support your video card.

If so, is there a simpler way to avoid or remedy it rapidly?

I do not think so.  Just follow  
https://trisquel.info/forum/13aug2017-buy-trisquel-laptop?page=1#comment-120339  
not forgetting any character in the commands.


I do not understand your network issues.  Don't you access the Internet from  
any of your system?  Don't you have a router providing the Internet access to  
all your computers?  You only need to configure the router.


I doubt anybody reads 3-page-long threads but those who got involved in it.   
You had better create a new thread per problem/question.  Try to clearly  
explain the problems you face.  That usually mean briefly and with short  
sentences.


The network should connect or "share" devices so the new Taurinus laptop is  
an option to consider for /home , yes?


You mean the desktop system having its /home on another computer (shared with  
that system)?  Well, that other computer would then have to always be online.  
 Since we are talking about a laptop, you probably do not want that.  And  
accessing files over the network entails a performance penalty.  And you have  
very large disks in this computer!  Do you really use all the data they  
contain?  Aren't there duplicated data?


What procedure(s) do you employ to search the internet securely?

I am not sure I understand what you mean.  First of all, I rarely search the  
Web: I use the history and bookmarks (URLs in the address bar are  
auto-completed).  I use https://duckduckgo.com/html/ as my default search  
engine.  But you can use StartPage if you prefer.  Click on the magnifying  
glass at the left of Abrowsers' search field and then on "Search settings" (I  
translate from French: it may be slightly different) to set the default  
search engine, the additional ones, search engines, etc.


I don't see any Abrowser options for deleting cookies

In the menu (the button with three stacked segments, like a burger), click on  
"Preferences" and, in the "Privacy" tab, on the "Display the cookies..."  
button.  You will then be able to select cookies and delete them.  There is a  
button to delete them all too.


does that mean all cookies are auto deleted?

Click on  
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/downloads/latest/415846/addon-415846-latest.xpi  
if you want "Self-Destructing Cookies".


Previously I had StartPage (IXQ) now I am attempting to get accustomed to  
duckduckGo but when I click the links isn't the browser dumped to the website  
without avoiding cookies and IP address?


"Dumping the browser to the website" does not mean anything.  See  
https://duckduckgo.com/privacy if you want to know DudckDuckGo's (good)  
privacy policy.


[Trisquel-users] Re : How can I watch youtube videos?

2017-09-03 Thread lcerf
Technically, if you watch from you computer a video that was not on your  
computer, then you necessarily downloaded it.


I personally use ViewTube:

Add GreaseMonkey to the Web browser through  
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/downloads/latest/748/addon-748-latest.xpi/
Download the ViewTube (and, if you wish, the ViewTube+) script from  
http://isebaro.com/viewtube/

Enjoy.


I use Unplug for sites that neither ViewTube nor ViewTube+ supports:  
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/downloads/latest/2254/addon-2254-latest.xpi


Both ViewTube and Unplug allow to save the video in two clicks.  See  
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/play-videos-without-using-flash for these  
solutions and more.


[Trisquel-users] connman

2017-09-03 Thread masonhock
I let Enlightenment pressure me into installing connman, which uninstalls the  
existing network manager. I am now struggling to connect to Ethernet or WiFi  
with connman. I've attempted these instructions. When I run # ps faux | grep  
connmand I get root 549 0.0 0.1 6708 2120 ? Ss 11:07 0:00 connmand  
--nobacktrace
root 2336 0.0 0.0 4680 840 pts/0 SN+ 11:48 0:00 \_ grep --color=auto connmand  
I'm not sure if this is similar enough to the expected output to indicate  
that connmand is running. If I try to start it manually with #  
`/usr/bin/connmand -nr` I get bash: /usr/bin/connmand: No file or directory  
and running # `/usr/sbin/connmand -nr` gives me Name already in use I do not  
see wlan* when I run # ifonfig When I run # connmanctl enable wifi it says  
that WiFi is already enabled. However, when I run # connmanctl scan wifi I  
get Error /net/connman/technology/wifi: No carrier which searching online  
seems to be a common error, but I could not find a solution.


Connman is supposed to handle ethernet automatically, but it doesn't seem to  
be doing that either.


Has anyone gotten connman working with Trisquel, or at all? I need a solution  
that does not require me to install anything, as I can't install anything  
until I have internet access.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Nepomuk is actually disabled ...

2017-09-03 Thread lcerf
If it depends on the time you use Internet, then it has nothing to do with  
your operating system and everything to do with you Internet provider.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Webrowser Problem

2017-09-03 Thread blogstory
Thank you martinh - I'll read up on it and edit the script - I suspected the  
script is the culprit!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Webrowser Problem

2017-09-03 Thread mjmhogg5

Could be to do with javascript ?

Type about:config into the adressbar (you will have to accept the warning),  
then


scroll down the long list until you find  javascript.enabled  , you then  
could


change this to "true" by toggle-ing it.

However, javascript is problematic, you may want to read up on it:

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.en.html

Thanks !


[Trisquel-users] Webrowser Problem

2017-09-03 Thread blogstory
I'm new to GNU/Linux Trisquel and was using dreaded proprietary OS with  
firefox, which functioned for this blockchain website:

https://beta.chainbb.com/dtube/@frankbacon/vkaf04gg
But now I'm using Abrowser and can't load many blockchain webpages...
I invite all to share your solution.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Corporate mainstream media which is not in the public interest

2017-09-03 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
I agree, this media is unfortunatelly misleading. It also happens in
Brazil too, even in research/academic papers.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Antwort: Purism working on libre phone

2017-09-03 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Indeed, I agree, these crappy companies (looking at Intel and co. too)
shouldn't receive our money, not even our "supportive/affirmative
talk". :)

-- 
- https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno
- Palestrante e consultor sobre /software/ livre (não confundir com
  gratis).
- "WhatsApp"? Ele não é livre. Por favor, use o GNU Ring ou o Tox.
- Contato: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#vCard
- Arquivos comuns aceitos (apenas sem DRM): Corel Draw, Microsoft
  Office, MP3, MP4, WMA, WMV.
- Arquivos comuns aceitos e enviados: CSV, GNU Dia, GNU Emacs Org, GNU
  GIMP, Inkscape SVG, JPG, LibreOffice (padrão ODF), OGG, OPUS, PDF
  (apenas sem DRM), PNG, TXT, WEBM.


Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop

2017-09-03 Thread blogstory

This confuses me after I installed SMTube:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/how-can-i-watch-youtube-videos#comment-120370
> "I'll have to learn how to operate the SMTube features - but why after  
launching it loads up Tonvid.com?

What is Tonvid.com (uses something called Totem) and how do I get rid of it?"

Then I found:

..."while trying to find the answer to my above question, I read this:
https://sourceforge.net/p/smplayer/bugs/695/
> "smtube has essentially become a web browser that relies heavily upon  
Tonvid.com for its functionality. The problem is that it appears according to  
the terms of use found at Tonvid.com that it is not released under a free  
license making smtube heavily dependent upon non-free software which  
undermines those that wish to use it because it is free software."


So doesn't this mean it is not "free" and I should remove it?

Related to that, do you stop using youtube or do you have a app that searches  
and download youtube videos without going to the youtube.com url?"


Re: [Trisquel-users] How can I watch youtube videos?

2017-09-03 Thread blogstory
Moments ago, while trying to find the answer to my above question, I read  
this:

https://sourceforge.net/p/smplayer/bugs/695/
> "smtube has essentially become a web browser that relies heavily upon  
Tonvid.com for its functionality. The problem is that it appears according to  
the terms of use found at Tonvid.com that it is not released under a free  
license making smtube heavily dependent upon non-free software which  
undermines those that wish to use it because it is free software."


So doesn't this mean it is not "free" and I should remove it?


Re: [Trisquel-users] How can I watch youtube videos?

2017-09-03 Thread blogstory
I'll have to learn how to operate the SMTube features - but why after  
launching it loads up Tonvid.com?

What is Tonvid.com and how do I get rid of it?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism working on libre phone

2017-09-03 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
The current modem-related regulations are bad for free/libre software
indeed. :(

Just a note about Garrett:

He also presented the difference between Secure Boot vs. Restricted
Boot ([1]). And it's not about being able to disable it, and not about
having a "legacy" mode. :)

Of course, I do agree with you in that an involvement of someone in a
project doesn't mean he'll guarantee that things will go as expected,
and in for-profits it doesn't guarantee that he'll be given enough
importance in the decision making.

Also, as a note: Garrett's blog and website seem to force the user to
use non-free JS. :)

[1]


-- 
- https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno
- Palestrante e consultor sobre /software/ livre (não confundir com
  gratis).
- "WhatsApp"? Ele não é livre. Por favor, use o GNU Ring ou o Tox.
- Contato: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#vCard
- Arquivos comuns aceitos (apenas sem DRM): Corel Draw, Microsoft
  Office, MP3, MP4, WMA, WMV.
- Arquivos comuns aceitos e enviados: CSV, GNU Dia, GNU Emacs Org, GNU
  GIMP, Inkscape SVG, JPG, LibreOffice (padrão ODF), OGG, OPUS, PDF
  (apenas sem DRM), PNG, TXT, WEBM.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How can I watch youtube videos?

2017-09-03 Thread blogstory

Thank you Magic Banana.

Does smplayer download youtbe videos too?

Yes, I read and didn't comprehend:
"mpv url -> stream vid
youtube-dl url -> download vid
mps-youtube -> search, browse, play, download vids"
What does that mean?
how do you download videos?


Re: [Trisquel-users] No open FSF/GNU forum?

2017-09-03 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
There is the international LibrePlanet Activists ([1]) and also the local
LibrePlanet teams shown at LibrePlanet.org ([2]). However, be aware that
note of these are representing FSF, nor GNU. It's only a common place to
organize activies, and there is no guarantee that the groups and members
do stay aligned with the purposes and thoughts of the movement.

There are also other international teams that might be of interest [3].

Also, I somewhat have to agree with what was said with regards to
keeping an official and open forum and the risk of some messages bein
misunderstood. However, as far as I know, they do have a forum, but for
members only.

[1] 
[2] 
[3] 

-- 
- https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno
- Palestrante e consultor sobre /software/ livre (não confundir com
  gratis).
- "WhatsApp"? Ele não é livre. Por favor, use o GNU Ring ou o Tox.
- Contato: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#vCard
- Arquivos comuns aceitos (apenas sem DRM): Corel Draw, Microsoft
  Office, MP3, MP4, WMA, WMV.
- Arquivos comuns aceitos e enviados: CSV, GNU Dia, GNU Emacs Org, GNU
  GIMP, Inkscape SVG, JPG, LibreOffice (padrão ODF), OGG, OPUS, PDF
  (apenas sem DRM), PNG, TXT, WEBM.


Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop

2017-09-03 Thread blogstory

Hi Magic Banana, I now comprehend what you meant in your comment:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/13aug2017-buy-trisquel-laptop?page=1#comment-120344
> "And, again, less than 80 GiB for /home is very little: that partition  
should be larger (on another disk)."
> "As I wrote earlier, it is simpler to reinstall Trisquel (and, then,  
probably the newer Linux-libre, like you have just done) setting up the  
proper partition for /home "


The Gparted app is gone and it is simpler to use the version in the install  
app - as the partitions will be over written each time I run install.

When I run install again - will I have to deal with the boot problem too?
If so, is there a simpler way to avoid or remedy it rapidly?

Even if the boot problem return during another install I now can use the  
solution you provided, but I haven't decided where to create the larger /home  
device I would like it to have a full 1TB because I archive a lot of  
audio/video and images that eats up available storage.
As I consider this, perhaps the Laptop is best suited for Master control of  
My Home Network as it is the TRUE GNU/FSF spec.
The network should connect or "share" devices so the new Taurinus laptop is  
an option to consider for /home , yes?


And I haven't considered how to connect the other machines to the network or  
leave them outside to use the WiFi and proprietary products - any  
suggestions? - all are invited to comment.


^

I haven't looked into how to configure the home network - this is important  
and these two machines will be managing the network.
This looks daunting at 1st glance with security, routers, IP addresses,  
firewalls, primary/alternate DNS and VPN-connections

Is there a app or script that makes home network management simple to setup?

Sadly, I am using unsecure AT ISP broadband, mainly because of their  
presence as other ISP's were not available - it has been awhile since I  
searched for competitors; do you have any suggestions for network apps and  
ISP?


^
What procedure(s) do you employ to search the internet securely?
I don't see any Abrowser options for deleting cookies, - does that mean all  
cookies are auto deleted?
Previously I had StartPage (IXQ) now I am attempting to get accustomed to  
duckduckGo but when I click the links isn't the browser dumped to the website  
without avoiding cookies and IP address?


[Trisquel-users] Nepomuk is actually disabled ...

2017-09-03 Thread amenex
Searching for a usable browser to cope with the extraordinarily slow  
Internet, I installed Rekonq, but that browser:
1. Insists that I choose a search engine before it will work properly, even  
after I had already chosen one; and
2. When I try to set a bookmark, red text appears, saying, "Nepomuk is  
actually disabled;" but Terminal says that it cannot locate package Nepomuk  
(nepomuk) even though Add/Remove Applications says that I've already  
installed it. But the chosen bookmarks are added to the bookmarks file  
anyway.


The only times during the day that my Abrowser will open webpages at finite  
speed are early in the morning, before 8:00 EST. Even this forum is almost  
impossibly slow. These conditions first became intolerable in late August  
2017.


Even installing S/W through the Trisquel archives is extraordinarily slow. Is  
this the Internet of the future ?




Re: [Trisquel-users] Did Google just make a blobless kernel for the Rasberry Pi 3...?

2017-09-03 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Well, it's precisely because of the advantages of copyleft for the end
user that it's important to keep it, even if the license doesn't prevent
digital handcuffs (lock down).

In *my* opinion, it would also be benefical if Linux switches to GNU GPL
3+. However, this is a wild and *personal* guess. I did not study the
implications of such switch.

There are of course other issues to consider, but since I'm not a
lawyer, and not entirely aware of other things to consider it might be a
good idea to contact Software Freedom Conservancy and Software Freedom
Law Center about this Android case and Fuchsia.


[Trisquel-users] Re : How can I watch youtube videos?

2017-09-03 Thread lcerf
SMTube is not in Trisquel's repository.  It is in a PPA (read  
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-software-installation-trisquel-different-windows  
for the different ways to install a program):

$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rvm/smplayer
$ sudo apt update
$ sudo apt install smtube


Re: [Trisquel-users] 13Aug2017 buy Trisquel laptop

2017-09-03 Thread blogstory
I didn't cry when trisquel installed but I did go to sleep happy with a smile  
;)


Now to learn new habits with the terminal command line...

Thanks for the encouragement and assistance everyone!


Re: [Trisquel-users] How can I watch youtube videos?

2017-09-03 Thread blogstory
I'm new to Trisquel, is Smtube the same as SMPlayer? or do I have to update  
the package to find it on my new install?


Re: [Trisquel-users] we nede your opinion

2017-09-03 Thread eloi . igor
Yes. Guix is awesome! It should come by default with Trisquel too. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] How can I watch youtube videos?

2017-09-03 Thread greatgnu

>Does anyone here know a way to watch and download videos from Youtube?


mpv url -> stream vid
youtube-dl url -> download vid
mps-youtube -> search, browse, play, download vids


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-03 Thread greatgnu

>I like LXDE or XFCE4. Openbox it is not bad stuff, but I really hate i3.

wow, are you me? :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] I hope SFS will provide an email service to replace openmailbox

2017-09-03 Thread greatgnu

We would first need to know what is SFS..


Re: [Trisquel-users] How can I watch youtube videos?

2017-09-03 Thread Alexander Ross
for firefox i use Video Assistant with mpv. so videos auto start
playing in a mpv window. great for watching vids in the
background while doing other stuff. I shrunk the window down with
always (stay) ontop set. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] How can I watch youtube videos?

2017-09-03 Thread mappack

It works nicely, thanks!


Re: [Trisquel-users] How can I watch youtube videos?

2017-09-03 Thread mappack

Nevermind, it makes it in ~/.config/smplayer/ when you start the program.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How can I watch youtube videos?

2017-09-03 Thread mappack

I'm trying it now, but where can I find its config file?


Re: [Trisquel-users] How can I watch youtube videos?

2017-09-03 Thread vitacell
Smtube, also you can block any smtube's JS in smtube's config file. Same with  
cookies.


[Trisquel-users] How can I watch youtube videos?

2017-09-03 Thread mappack
I used to watch Youtube videos using a free software Greasemonkey script in  
IceCat. But recently, Google made the entire Youtube website reliant on  
JavaScript. This means that I can't watch Youtube videos that way anymore.


Does anyone here know a way to watch and download videos from Youtube?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-03 Thread mappack

FreeSlack 64 works fine for me.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-03 Thread blade . vp2020

its try to Looking for the appropriate method to build the app
if it find it
Will be used that way.
For example
Some programs
build useing
chmod +x configure
./configure
make
yes you can use it in other distributions



Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 (Beta1)

2017-09-03 Thread shiretoko
I saw that you have custom tools like u-src for automated building from  
source. How does the program work? Can people with other distributions use it  
as well?


[Trisquel-users] I hope SFS will provide an email service to replace openmailbox

2017-09-03 Thread freesoftware

Hi All,

I hope that SFS will provide an email service, even it charges several  
dollars every month. If so, I will switch to it. I suppose most free software  
supporters will switch to it. And I guess SFS will get more money to promote  
free software.


Why not?