Re: [Trisquel-users] few questions before installing

2018-05-10 Thread jom89

@mason
@Magic Banana

Thanks to both of you!


Re: [Trisquel-users] few questions before installing

2018-05-10 Thread mason

> Would u consider it a must for latest security updates in general?

I think that for the Spectre patch you need 4.14 or later. Trisquel gets 4.4  
from upstream Ubuntu, so if you want the Spectre patch I suggest installing  
4.14 from jxself's repo.


> Your script would help me a lot. I appreciate that.

-

#!/bin/bash

# get i3-stuff (lock, status, etc.) but remove i3
sudo apt remove i3 && sudo apt remove i3

# get dependencies
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:aguignard/ppa
sudo apt update
sudo apt install libxcb1-dev libxcb-keysyms1-dev libpango1.0-dev  
libxcb-util0-dev libxcb-icccm4-dev libyajl-dev libstartup-notification0-dev  
libxcb-randr0-dev libev-dev libxcb-cursor-dev libxcb-xinerama0-dev  
libxcb-xkb-dev libxkbcommon-dev libxkbcommon-x11-dev autoconf libxcb-xrm-dev


# clone and build
sudo apt install git
cd /tmp
git clone https://www.github.com/Airblader/i3 i3-gaps
cd i3-gaps
autoreconf --force --install
rm -rf build/
mkdir -p build && cd build/
../configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --disable-sanitizers
make
sudo make install
rm -rf i3-gaps

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[Trisquel-users] Re : few questions before installing

2018-05-10 Thread lcerf

Complementing mason's answers:

1. I have "Intel Corporation HD Graphics 630 (rev 04)" (according to 'lspci'  
and went through the issues you mentioned when I was using Trisquel 7's X  
server (the latest kernel made no difference).  There is no such problem with  
Trisquel 8.


4. You may (or not) want to use the NetInstall, if you do not plan to use the  
default MATE desktop environment (and do not want to have two applications  
for a same task).


Welcome!  :-)


[Trisquel-users] Re : GIMP exporting PDFs

2018-05-10 Thread lcerf
You can use the 'pdfunite' command, which is installed by default (at least  
in Trisquel 8).


Re: [Trisquel-users] few questions before installing

2018-05-10 Thread jom89
> The latest linux-libre kernel can be added to Trisquel from jxself's repo:  
https://jxself.org/linux-libre/


Would u consider it a must for latest security updates in general?

> You'll need to build it. I have a script saved somewhere that I use each  
time I install Trisquel. I'll post it when I get home.


Your script would help me a lot. I appreciate that.



Re: [Trisquel-users] Who's On Mastodon?

2018-05-10 Thread trisquelwhare+trisquelinfo

@strypey > "BTW Are you a kiwi too? If not, what does "whare" mean to you?"

Yep, I'm definitely a Kiwi, living in Auckland. My entire whare is running  
Trisquel now, hence the username. For those not in the know here, "whare" is  
the Māoriᵃ word for house, home, or building.



[ᵃ] http://maoridictionary.co.nz/search?=whare


Re: [Trisquel-users] Who's On Mastodon?

2018-05-10 Thread trisquelwhare+trisquelinfo

@strypey > "BTW Are you a kiwi too? If not, what does "whare" mean to you?"

Yep, I'm definitely a Kiwi, living in Auckland. My entire whare is running  
Trisquel now, hence the username. For those not in the know here, "whare" is  
the Māoriᵃ word for house, home, or building.



[ᵃ] http://maoridictionary.co.nz/search?=whare


Re: [Trisquel-users] few questions before installing

2018-05-10 Thread Mason Hock
> 1) Is Intel HD Graphics 630 supported? (was told to install proprietary
> firmware on Debian to fix tearing issues and such)

If there is free firmware for your graphics card, it is likely in the Trisquel 
repository. There is no proprietary software in the Trisquel repository. 

> 2) Will Trisquel security updates include patches for the Intel
> vulnerabilities, including patches for Spectre-NG?

The latest linux-libre kernel can be added to Trisquel from jxself's repo: 
https://jxself.org/linux-libre/

> 3) What would be the correct way to install i3-gaps via tty after a minimal
> Trisquel install?

You'll need to build it. I have a script saved somewhere that I use each time I 
install Trisquel. I'll post it when I get home.

> 4) What would be the correct way to install XFCE via tty after a minimal
> Trisquel install?

$ sudo apt install xfce4

> 5) Do Icecat and Abrowser both rely on LibreJS, or is there an alternative?

Icecat has LibreJS installed by default. Abrowser does not. NoScript is similar 
in function to LibreJS, but lacks LibreJS's license-detection feature, instead 
blocking all JavaScript by default whether it is free or proprietary.


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[Trisquel-users] few questions before installing

2018-05-10 Thread jom89
I have a few questions before installing Trisquel, after I recently decided  
to do the switch from Debian.


1) Is Intel HD Graphics 630 supported? (was told to install proprietary  
firmware on Debian to fix tearing issues and such)
2) Will Trisquel security updates include patches for the Intel  
vulnerabilities, including patches for Spectre-NG?
3) What would be the correct way to install i3-gaps via tty after a minimal  
Trisquel install?
4) What would be the correct way to install XFCE via tty after a minimal  
Trisquel install?

5) Do Icecat and Abrowser both rely on LibreJS, or is there an alternative?

Thanks in advance.






Re: [Trisquel-users] Who's On Mastodon?

2018-05-10 Thread calmstorm
CAPTCHA IS EVIL! WE MUST DESTROY CAPTCHA AND WE MUST DESTROY ALL NON-FREE  
SOFTWARE AND DESTROY EVERYTHING PROPREITARY!


I AM NOT CRAZY FOR TALKING IN ALL CAPS LIKE THIS!
AND FOR TALKING ABOUT NUKING  ALL NON-FREE PROPREITARY  
SOFTWARE!




xD

trolol...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Who's On Mastodon?

2018-05-10 Thread brashley46
I am on Diaspora as brashley46 on joindiaspora, Mastodon as brashley46 on  
mstdn.io, and pump.io  as brashley46 on identi.ca ...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Speaker's corner for those of us who donate at associate member level, but aren't being considered as such, because of paypal

2018-05-10 Thread andre

No, I haven't tried sending an email.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Speaker's corner for those of us who donate at associate member level, but aren't being considered as such, because of paypal

2018-05-10 Thread 7en

From the Trisquel "Donate" page:

If you want your donation to be publicly shown in our site, remember to press  
the "go back to Trisquel GNU/Linux" link at the end of the PayPal payment  
process. If you make a deposit in our account you can contact with us and we  
will manually add your donation to the list.


Have you tried sending an email? I would expect that it works analogous to  
the one-time donations - I imagine it's hard to automatically have bank  
transfers trigger the membership status (for lack of a better world).


[Trisquel-users] Speaker's corner for those of us who donate at associate member level, but aren't being considered as such, because of paypal

2018-05-10 Thread andre
So, I donate at associate membership level, and because I don't have paypal,  
I pay by back transfer, which means that I'm not considered as an associate  
member. I  can't believe I'm the only one, am I?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Orca screen reader eating all my ram!

2018-05-10 Thread Mason Hock
> For now, there is a documentation page explaining how to uninstall Orca.
> 
> https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/disabling-orca-screen-reader

I meant to write how to *disable* Orca.



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Re: [Trisquel-users] Orca screen reader eating all my ram!

2018-05-10 Thread Mason Hock
I think it better have to have assistive technologies enabled by default than 
disabled, but this seems to be a very common question. I can think of a few 
possible solutions
- have a separate ISO with which assistive technologies are enabled by default 
during and after installation
- have an option in the graphical installer to disable assistive technologies
- have a pop-up on first log in to set accessibility options

For now, there is a documentation page explaining how to uninstall Orca.

https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/disabling-orca-screen-reader

I think it is better to disable Orca than to uninstall gnome-orca, because 
gnome-orca is a dependency of the trisquel metapackage. In fact, 
gnome-app-install will refuse to uninstall gnome-orca (and any other package 
that is a dependency of trisquel) unless the trisquel metapackage has been 
removed via Synaptic or a terminal.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Who's On Mastodon?

2018-05-10 Thread dahunt
Who's on Mastodon, What's on GNU Social, and I Don't Know's on Diaspora.  


[Trisquel-users] Re : Auto-Maximize Abrowser Window

2018-05-10 Thread david . ducassou

Thank you Luca Guidetti, this work.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Proposal: Update "Enable DVD Playback"

2018-05-10 Thread xliang9550
Not only the Unites States, don't forget the so-called "Free Trade  
Agreements". USA can impose draconian laws like DMCA on other countries.


[Trisquel-users] GIMP exporting PDFs

2018-05-10 Thread Caleb Herbert
The GIMP imports multi-page PDFs but does not export them.  Could
somebody fix this?  The GIMP really helped me scribble over a PDF.

http://smallbusiness.chron.com/exporting-pdf-gimp-48412.html



Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-10 Thread onpon4

No, Cinnamon is not supposed to be "light". It's based on GNOME 3.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Orca screen reader eating all my ram!

2018-05-10 Thread trisquelwhare+trisquelinfo

> Turn it off at Startup applications, then reboot.

Aha! That did it, and is a much better solution than having to kill the  
process every time I reboot. Thanks for this!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Proposal: Update "Enable DVD Playback"

2018-05-10 Thread enduzzer
DMCA is the reason libdvdcss must be a separate dowload. If Ubuntu can  
include libdvd-pkg, so can Trisquel. Is there anything to prevent this  
freedomwise?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-10 Thread hd-scania
There's also a Cinnamon desktop similar to MATE which both are GNOME forks,  
as compared to LXQt or MATE is Cinnamon really light? I have some nostalgia  
reason using Cinnamon from which I was still running nonfree Linux Mint,  
that's the system developing Cinnamon desktop.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Midory outdated

2018-05-10 Thread xliang9550

Of course LXDE/LXQt is lighter, but MATE is light enough.

I run Trisquel 8 (default settings) on a twelve years old ThinkPad Z61t and  
everything is smooth enough.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Proposal: Update "Enable DVD Playback"

2018-05-10 Thread xliang9550
My only concern is that libdvdcss might violate DMCA (Domination by Media  
Company Act) in the United States...


So be careful to enable it by default.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Orca screen reader eating all my ram!

2018-05-10 Thread enduzzer
>"Unfortunately, even with these options disabled (as shown in the attached  
screenshot), it still jabbered away to itself."


I have seen this happen. Orca is buggy.

Last time I installed T8 Orca misbehaved as usual. I couln't turn it off  
easily no matter what I did. Then I uninstalled it.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Proposal: Update "Enable DVD Playback"

2018-05-10 Thread enduzzer
Trisquel should take up Ubuntu's libdvd-pkg method. Libdvd-pkg has been there  
since Ubuntu 15.10.


Until it does, use the Videolan repo method.

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/libdvd-pkg-trisquel-8

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/problems-dvd-video-reading-flidas

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs