Re: [Trisquel-users] Thinkpad T420s 5 beeps
I had a t420 before, it would be awesome if the me was 95% clean because then the wifi card could be changed.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Development and Contribution
Nope. One merely shows up in #trisquel-deve at the appointed time.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel GNU/Linux ----> Trisquel GNU/Linux-Libre
The GNU/Linux naming controversy has nothing to do with "talking about freedom". It's about giving credit to the GNU Project. The FSF maintains that Ubuntu, Fedora, Linux Mint, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, Debian, Gentoo, etc are all properly "GNU/Linux" systems and should be referred to as such. I personally actually think that the controversy is silly at this point, though I did side with the FSF at first. The reason I think it's silly is because despite what the FSF and RMS suggest, people don't inform their perceptions of things on their names in any real capacity. When people in the mainstream think "Linux", they think "that operating system that geeks and websites use" (or something to that effect; exactly what they'd describe it would depend on their technical knowledge). The only sense in which a name matters is when a name causes confusion. Case in point: "open source". There is a real misunderstanding in the mainstream that "open source" is about source code availability, when it's much more than that. That's why I do encourage a clearer term for that: "libre software". (But not "free software"; that term has its own problem that causes real misunderstandings.) But when it comes to the reputation of a thing, or what people think about it, the name is almost entirely insignificant in the long run. Just to prove my point, consider the term "asbestos". Hearing that word makes you think of cancer, an evil industry, etc, right? Well, "asbestos" was an industry propaganda term, coming from an ancient Greek word that means "inextinguishable", propping up the benefits of the material. But when the general public finally understood just how harmful this stuff is, "asbestos" became a really nasty word, so much so that modern pro-asbestos propaganda often prefers to use the term "chrysotile" (a name for white asbestos, the most common kind). So when it comes to the operating system typically called "Linux", I don't think it's accurate to say that people see that name and assume the whole thing was done by Linus Torvalds. Most people probably don't even know the name "Linus Torvalds", and for those who do, they associate him with Linux more because he allows himself to be associated with it, than because his name is similar to its name. I think if the FSF were to proudly exclaim that it played a key role in the development of "Linux" (rather than insisting on "GNU/Linux" and explaining a bunch of technicalities), the FSF would have a whole lot more influence on things than it currently does. Of course the concern about confusion arises too, but in practice, I've never seen anyone who was confused by the use of the term "Linux". Most people understand Linux and Android to be different things, and when talking about the kernel, the term "Linux kernel" is almost universal (the kernel is even hosted on the "kernel.org" domain, rather than "linux.org" or something similar). Overall, I don't care what term you use, but I think bickering over what to call systems in this particular category, which most people call "Linux", is unnecessary. Personally, I typically say "Linux". If the topic of the FSF were to come up, I might point out that the FSF "really started Linux" or "made a large part of Linux". I don't see much point in mixing in confusing explanations of why "Linux" is really not the most perfect term.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble installing GNU Ring on Flidas
Thanks for helping me identify me initial error :) Current output of: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ring-nightly-main.list deb https://dl.ring.cx/ring-nightly/ubuntu_16.04/ ring main However, after a number of tries, I noticed I keep getting this error: Get:1 https://dl.ring.cx/ring-nightly/ubuntu_16.04 ring/main i386 ring-daemon i386 20180816.2.e26b79f~dfsg1-1 [6,188 kB] Err:1 https://dl.ring.cx/ring-nightly/ubuntu_16.04 ring/main i386 ring-daemon i386 20180816.2.e26b79f~dfsg1-1 GnuTLS recv error (-9): A TLS packet with unexpected length was received. Unable to correct missing packages. E: Failed to fetch https://dl.ring.cx/ring-nightly/ubuntu_16.04/pool/main/r/ring/ring-daemon_20180816.2.e26b79f~dfsg1-1_i386.deb GnuTLS recv error (-9): A TLS packet with unexpected length was received. Then, just on a hunch, I tried it again without the --fix-missing ... and now it's installed! My username is 'strypey', if anyone wants to test it with me. Hit me up by email or on the fediverse to arrange a time: https://www.coactivate.org/projects/disintermedia/danyl-strype
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble installing GNU Ring on Flidas
Cool :) Make sure tha you only have this line : deb https://dl.ring.cx/ring-nightly/ubuntu_16.04/ ring main in : /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ring-nightly-main.list Remove the old 18.04 repo if it is present to avoid errors message in the future.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Development and Contribution
> Does anyone take any notes at these meetings? Or at least logs? If so, is > there a place on the website they are posted, so those who can't attend can > read them? This would be useful. I don't know if anyone is currently doing it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble installing GNU Ring on Flidas
> Is there anything I need to do to undo the things I > did when I followed the wrong set of instructions? If apt no longer says you have broken packages, and if /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ring-nightly-main.list now says "16.04" instead of "18.04", I don't think you need to do anything else. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble installing GNU Ring on Flidas
Yes, tt seems like I accidentally followed the instructions for 18.04, instead of 16.04. I tried again, following the 16.04 instructions, and it seems to be working now. Is there anything I need to do to undo the things I did when I followed the wrong set of instructions?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Another bug report: Rhythmbox on GNOME is missing the label, only titled as "Unnamed"
Thanks, it works for me! deleting "^_". Rhythmbox was totally missed, not only unnamed...
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble installing GNU Ring on Flidas
Output of: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ring-nightly-main.list > deb https://dl.ring.cx/ring-nightly/ubuntu_18.04/ ring main Hmm. Perhaps this is a case of user error? ;-P If I have accidentally followed the instructions for 18.04, instead of 16.04, what's the best way to undo what I did, so I can try again with the correct instructions?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel GNU/Linux ----> Trisquel GNU/Linux-Libre
you shouldnt need both "gnu" and "libre." just call it "gnu," or just call it "linux-libre." either of these names serve the purpose of talking about freedom in the name. (linux-libre explicitly, or gnu implicitly, which is the whole purpose of keeping gnu in the name in the first place.)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Development and Contribution
davidpgil: > "I was wondering if there is some form of start date or initiation action that happens when we start Trisquel 9." Step 1 was to agree on a name. There was an announcement some months back that a name had been chosen, and development started: https://trisquel.info/en/trisquel-90-development-plans > "I'm particularly interested in decentralizing the development so it is somehow easier for everyone to contribute." Me too. There was some discussion in that announcement of what the Trisquel devs have been doing to set up new dev infrastructure, partly to make it easier for more people to contribute. I see you'd already read that announcement though, since you commented on it at the time ;) I can understand why the Trisquel dev team are hesitant to speculate about release dates. If they say "we hope to have it out by date X', that is likely to be treated as a promise by some impatient end uses, with much wailing and gnashing of teeth resulting if the target isn't met. But it would be great to see some kind of roadmap for roughly what has to be done on each Trisquel release, in what order, expressed as a series of stages. That way, all that would need to be done to keep the user community updated is a short notice (a post on a fediverse account?), with a link to that roadmap, saying something like: "Trisquel X update: All stages completed up to Stage 3. Stage 3, 4, and 5 in progress now." chaosmonk: > "the next Freedom Friday meeting is probably the place to do it. 11am EST." Does anyone take any notes at these meetings? Or at least logs? If so, is there a place on the website they are posted, so those who can't attend can read them?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trouble installing GNU Ring on Flidas
Looks like it tries to pull ring (and its dependencies) for 18.04 Please post the output of : cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ring-nightly-main.list
[Trisquel-users] Trouble installing GNU Ring on Flidas
Installed Ring, using the same method for Ubuntu 16.04 at https://ring.cx/en/download/gnu-linux These instructions (minus the one referring to "universe") worked on the experimental install I did on a USB stick. But I did a fresh install to the internal drive yesterday, and it's not working. Here's what I did: * fresh install on Flidas on internal drive * sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade * sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade * autoremove, autoclean, clan * followed the instructions at the link above for installing Ring on 16.04 Here's the output I got back: strypey@Bishop:~$ sudo apt-get install ring Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: ring : Depends: libayatana-appindicator3-1 (>= 0.4.90) but it is not installable Depends: libebook-1.2-19 (>= 3.17) but it is not installable Depends: libedataserver-1.2-23 (>= 3.17) but it is not installable Depends: libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.21.5) but 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.3 is to be installed Depends: libqt5core5a (>= 5.9.0~beta) but 5.5.1+dfsg-16ubuntu7.5 is to be installed Depends: ring-daemon (= 20180816.2.e26b79f~dfsg1-1) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. Any suggestions?
