Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread Mason Hock
> I could run it from a tarball but
> I'm not savvy enough to install it from one.

If you're running it from the tarball, here's what I suggest doing so
that you can launch it from a terminal or from menus as if it were
installed.

If you have Icecat 52 installed from the Trisquel repos, remove it.

$ sudo apt remove icecat

Download and extract the tarball to your home folder

$ cd ~
$ wget 
https://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/60.3.0/icecat-60.3.0.en-US.gnulinux-x86_64.tar.bz2
$ tar xf icecat-60.3.0.en-US.gnulinux-x86_64.tar.bz2
$ rm icecat-60.3.0.en-US.gnulinux-x86_64.tar.bz2

Create a script with which to launch Icecat from a terminal.

$ mkdir ~/.local/bin
$ echo "/home/$USER/icecat/icecat > ~/.local/bin/icecat
$ chmod +x ~/.local/bin/icecat

After this you can run "icecat" in a terminal to launch Icecat.

Create a desktop file with which to launch Icecat from menus. Use your
preferred text editor to create "~/.local/share/applications/icecat.desktop"
containing the following (replace both instances of "chaosmonk" with
your username):

[Desktop Entry]
Name=Icecat
Exec=/home/chaosmonk/icecat/icecat
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Icon=/home/chaosmonk/icecat/browser/chrome/icons/default/default128.png
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;

After this Icecat should appear in menus and launchers.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread alonivtsan
I could run it from a tarball but I'm not savvy enough to install it from  
one.


You just need to unpack the tarball and run the icecat file from the folder.

$ cd icecat-directory
$ ./icecat

 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread alonivtsan
Does Trisquel contain a new enough version of WebKit to meet Midori's  
requirement (Hyperbola doesn't)?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread mason

> Midori released new releases in the last 6 months - versions 6.0 and 7.0
> use a newer WebKit. You can install it via Snap:
> github.com/midori-browser/core

Snap was removed from Trisquel due to freedom issues.[1] I have
submitted a merge request to backport Midori 7,[2] but I'm not sure
if/when it will be merged. In the meantime I have just uploaded the
source to a PPA,[3] which the OP or whoever can install with

$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:chaosmonk/ppa
$ sudo apt-get update
$ sudo apt install midori

[1] https://trisquel.info/en/issues/23918
[2] https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/merge_requests/215



Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread jason
Similar to Debian stable, general policy is to freeze package versions on the  
release of a given Trisquel version and then apply only security patches/bug  
fixes. But the version number remains frozen. I personally like this policy.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread lovexdrew

OH. Midori moved to github.

Hunnh. Alright. That's weird. So is there a special reason why the regular  
Icecat can't be in he repos? I could run it from a tarball but I'm not savvy  
enough to install it from one.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser update issues

2019-02-09 Thread lovexdrew

I can report that I also have the problem with abrowser.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser update issues

2019-02-09 Thread elkingrey
I've noticed that Disqus comments aren't loading on any of the sites I  
frequent. Not sure how to fix that.


Also, on another computer, but not my main one, lots of websites are asking  
me to disable adblocker. I don't have any adblocker running that I'm aware  
of, and I'm not getting that problem on my main computer.


Trisquel 7 on both computers, btw.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread lovexdrew

Oh jeeze, I got that mixed up.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser update issues

2019-02-09 Thread lovexdrew

> Hang/freeze during downloads

I also have this problem but with Icecat.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread alonivtsan
Midori released new releases in the last 6 months - versions 6.0 and 7.0 use  
a newer WebKit. You can install it via Snap:

github.com/midori-browser/core

There's also a newer version of Icecat (60.3) which you can install manually  
by unpacking the tar.bz2 file:

ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/60.3.0/


[Trisquel-users] Re : Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread lcerf
Abrowser is "the browser that normally comes with Trisquel".  It is another  
Firefox derivative and is updated little after a new version of Firefox is  
released.  Currently, it is at version 64.


[Trisquel-users] Icecat seems very outdated, what browser *should* one be using?

2019-02-09 Thread lovexdrew
I've installed Trisquel Mini and I love it. I love Trisquel mini. It's so  
much faster than Trisquel on my Libreboot X60.


The browser it comes with is Midori, a browser I fell in love with when it  
came around but the project died like 4 years ago and AFAIK it still uses a  
build of webkit that has a bunch of secuirty issues, which will never be  
fixed since the project is dead.


I did [ sudo apt-get install icecat] to use the browser that normally comes  
with Trisquel and I've found that it and some of it's addons are outdated. As  
of yesterday installing Icecat means you can't visit *any* websites using  
HTTPS, you will always get a 'content encoding error' which can only be fixed  
by disableing all addons. I'm not sure which one is doing it, I can only tell  
that it's not spyblock or httpseverywhere.



I tried to use the links icecat provides to install AdblockEdge and got a  
404.


I tried to install Ublock Origin from the mozilla website. I can't install  
it, it gives me this: This add-on requires a newer version of Firefox (at  
least version 55.0). You are using Firefox 52.0.




I tried to use github and my schools website for homework, github renders a  
little weird, my school website is entirely broken. Both give errors saying  
my browser is outdated.





So, what *should* I be using? What are you all using with Trisquel?


Re: [Trisquel-users] I need CWirc packaged

2019-02-09 Thread Mason Hock
On 02/09, Caleb Herbert wrote:
> I already tried the deb.

And I'm guessing it didn't work because you were missing dependencies?
It wants xchat and xchat-common, which as discussed aren't in
Xenial/Flidas.

You can try to grab deb files for xchat and xchat-common, and any
dependencies of those, etc. One of two things will happen:
- eventually all dependencies are satisfied
- you hit a dead end where a Trusty package is compiled against a
  different version of some library than the one in Xenial, at which
  point you need to build these things from source or have them
  repackaged for Xenial/Flidas

However, since cwirc seems intended for use with xchat, and since you
have not asked anyone to package xchat for you, just cwirc, I wonder if
perhaps you plan to use cwirc with hexchat? If this is correct, the
proper solution is to repackage cwirc to depend on hexchat and
hexchat-common instead.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] I need CWirc packaged

2019-02-09 Thread Mason Hock
> However, since cwirc seems intended for use with xchat, and since you
> have not asked anyone to package xchat for you, just cwirc, I wonder if
> perhaps you plan to use cwirc with hexchat? If this is correct, the
> proper solution is to repackage cwirc to depend on hexchat and
> hexchat-common instead.

Nevermind, looks like it might not be so simple to use with hexchat.

https://lists.debian.org/debian-hams/2016/01/msg00026.html

Since you'll need xchat to use cwirc, I'd start with that. Try grabbing
deb packages for the dependencies, and if that doesn't work we'll have
to try to build or repackage it.



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Re: [Trisquel-users] I need CWirc packaged

2019-02-09 Thread Caleb Herbert
I use HexChat too, but CWirc is the only program that allows people to
have CW Morse code conversations over the internet. There is a
proprietary program for Windows, but I won't use that.


Re: [Trisquel-users] I need CWirc packaged

2019-02-09 Thread Caleb Herbert
I already tried the deb.


[Trisquel-users] (no subject)

2019-02-09 Thread Sammy Speros



[Trisquel-users] Re : I need CWirc packaged

2019-02-09 Thread lcerf
It has not in Trisquel 6 and 7 (and it is absent from Trisquel 8):  
https://trisquel.info/issues/5994


Re: [Trisquel-users] I need CWirc packaged

2019-02-09 Thread jodiendo
Inferior and not recomened is that a serious rumbling or disappointment,, is  
it gpl or variant to it that matches., gpl code...


Re: [Trisquel-users] I need CWirc packaged

2019-02-09 Thread calmstorm

Hexchat is what I use too!

Agree wholeheartedly that xchat is not to be used. I wondered why it was in  
trisquel 7, when it was said to have freedom issues. I forget where I read  
they had freedom issues...


https://libreplanet.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_does_not_respect_the_Free_System_Distribution_Guidelines#XChat

Ah yes... look at the Xchat on here. I don't know if it still has those  
issues, but like you said its inferior.