Re: [Trisquel-users] Free hardware and open source and hp printers?

2014-10-15 Thread lakbk89

Hi Tonlee,

I am having a HP Deskjet D1500 series printer. It works like charm with  
Trisquel GNU/Linux 6.0.1 LTS version. So I understand, atleast from software  
point of view, the HP Printers of D1500 series are completely compatible with  
free software. But the same may not be true for some latest models of HP.(You  
need to check it with your local HP vendor)


Now coming to Hardware, it cannot be affirmated a Hardware which supports a  
free distribution to be 100% free; Reverse engineering the Technical  
schematics/Hardware Description code of the product(Here your Printer) with  
the permission of the company, alone can prove it indeed free.


It can also be a possibility that a hardware that can work for a free  
distribution can also have non-free firmware blobs. So it would be wise to  
avoid using such a suspected device for communicating sensitive/private data.  



Re: [Trisquel-users] Free hardware and open source and hp printers?

2014-10-13 Thread svhaab
Thanks. That means if you want to know if your printer is free hardware, then  
connect it to a trisquel computer? About the software, if the printer works  
on trisquel, then where does it come from? Trisquel will only use free  
software but hplip is not? Another thing is, if free software is made in  
opposition to non free software, then it is likely that the free software  
will not include surveillance features that the non free option may have. On  
windows I think hp software did what it could to send info about your hp  
printer to hp. If the hplip software, free software or open source, is  
produced by hp and there has been no independent audit, then how do you know  
if hp has not kept survaillance features in their printersoftware? They have  
an interest in keeping them in the hp software.


[Trisquel-users] Free hardware and open source and hp printers?

2014-10-12 Thread svhaab
My hp printer is not listed on h node. For gnulinux hp makes hplip software.  
Hp states it is open source software. In my ubuntu package manager hplip is  
present and many other packages tied to hp.
What kind of software is hplip? Is it source code? Is it a matter of licenses  
that fsf will not list all these hp printers on h node?
The hp printers that are on h node, what software do they use and who made  
it? If a printer is not listed on h node, then it cannot be used in  
combination with trisquel, also not as an open source printer? Trisquel and  
free hardware in general is much a matter of focusing in advance on what  
hardware to select?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Free hardware and open source and hp printers?

2014-10-12 Thread Michał Masłowski
h-node.org lists only hardware that its users tested and reported
there.  All printers supported by free drivers (without nonfree
firmware) at versions included in Trisquel should work.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Free hardware and open source and hp printers?

2014-10-12 Thread Andrew Lindley
This is the page (and the 'Supported Printers' link there) [1] to goto to
find out if a HP printer is supported by the free software hplip
driver.  You might need a version more current than in Trisquel 6.0 if
your printer is more recent.  There are a couple of methods to get the
latest version on that page. 

[1] http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/downloads.html


Re: [Trisquel-users] Free hardware and open source and hp printers?

2014-10-12 Thread lakbk89

Tonlee,

I had written to fsf to add HP printer to their list of hardware that support  
free software, especially h-node a week ago. If possible please check whether  
thy have done it.