Re: [Trisquel-users] Free software Replace Skype

2017-11-19 Thread shiretoko
I think that your concerns about software freedom and privacy are a very good  
thing, and you should definitly keep them in your heart.
However, though many people here might disagree, software freedom is one  
important thing among many important things in life, and if you feel that not  
carrying a cell phone becomes to much of a burden, then I advice to make a  
compromise and get one.
You could still try to use as much free software as possible on it, and you  
can keep an eye on projects that might help to improve the situation (maybe  
also financially supporting them).


I, for instance, have a history in life that makes staying in touch with my  
friends extremly important for me. Isolation makes me  literally sick. Now,  
it's true that a cell phone is not the only way to stay in touch with them,  
but nowadays, without a cellphone, the amount of communication will at least  
drop.
That's something many people can live with, but I can't. For me, staying in  
touch with my friends is more important then software freedom, so I agree to  
make this compromise.
The same way, i'm a very chaotic person who has a hard time organizing  
things, remembering dates or finding directions, which lead to a lot of  
serious trouble in the past. With my cellphone, things are way easier and I  
feel that a burden is taken from me.


I don't say that we shouldn't make sacrifices for software freedom, but  
everybody should decide on her own, whether the sacrifice is too big or not.
If you push yourself too hard, chances are that someday you might become  
completely fed up with the situation and drop your beliefes completely.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Free software Replace Skype

2017-11-19 Thread csh

For most people, I just call/SMS them with JMP, or send them an email.

If they need features for file/picture transfers and video chats, I'll have  
them use a free software WebRTC service.


If they need to video chat or transfer files/pictures from their handheld  
device which can't do WebRTC, I'll have them install Riot from F-Droid.


When using Riot, I make sure not to run it from Chromium or the Electron app,  
because the jury's still out on whether Chromium and Electron are free.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Free software Replace Skype

2017-11-18 Thread svhaab

There are
https://jitsi.org/
https://tox.chat/index.html
https://ring.cx/en

They are all zero knowledge.
They are all libre software.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Free software Replace Skype

2017-11-17 Thread Cassandra of Troy
Riot is super easy: http://riot.im/ and I see an icon for video chat.

Your friends don't even have to install anything--they can just use
their browser.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Free software Replace Skype

2017-11-17 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
For the general public the best recommendation I (personally) can give
is:

1. Make an account on any XMPP/Jabber service provider that supports
   Jingle audio and video calls.

   Alternativelly, see if the service provider supports HTTP File
   Upload.

   In all the cases you can check the lists at [1][2].

2. Use a XMPP/Jabber client that supports these too. There are many for
   cellphones and for desktop computers and notebooks.

3. Start a person-to-person audio/video call.

   Alternativelly, make a chatroom in the XMPP/Jabber service provider
   of your choice (sometimes you don't even need to be registered
   there), invite more people and chat using plain text instead of
   audio/video.

   In that chatroom, use HTTP File Upload to send short *temporary*
   audio and video (how long these are kept depends on the service
   provider, their pages should describe how it works).

Usage XMPP/Jabber has the benefits of using a federated communication
standard, just like email is. So you have various XMPP/Jabber service
providers, some allowing public registration, others paid, and some
which provide addresses only for members of some
group/organization/university.

Alternativelly, use a WebRTC service provider. However, please note that
this approach isn't federated (if someone is in a WebRTC chatroom, and you
happen to prefer another service provider, you can't tell your service
provider to connect to that chatroom), and you'll likely end up running
non-free software (which is generally done automatically through a
language called JavaScript). WebRTC works well for multi-person
audio/video calls.

Finally, for those who want to help develop free/libre software which
communicates in a distributed way (beyond federation), projects like GNU
Ring ([3]) are always accepting contributions, specially to overcome
some of issues related to distributed communications. ;)

[1] , section 2 ("Create an account").

[2] .

[3] .

aggeliszo...@prtonmail.com writes:

> Is there out any good program easy to use like skype?
>

-- 
- https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno
- Palestrante e consultor sobre /software/ livre (não confundir com
  gratis).
- "WhatsApp"? Ele não é livre. Por favor, veja formas de se comunicar
  instantaneamente comigo no endereço abaixo.
- Contato: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#vCard
- Arquivos comuns aceitos (apenas sem DRM): Corel Draw, Microsoft
  Office, MP3, MP4, WMA, WMV.
- Arquivos comuns aceitos e enviados: CSV, GNU Dia, GNU Emacs Org, GNU
  GIMP, Inkscape SVG, JPG, LibreOffice (padrão ODF), OGG, OPUS, PDF
  (apenas sem DRM), PNG, TXT, WEBM.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Free software Replace Skype

2017-11-17 Thread dhood
There are several, I encourage you to read the following post from the FSF:  
https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/voicevideochat 


[Trisquel-users] Free software Replace Skype

2017-11-17 Thread aggeliszotis

Is there out any good program easy to use like skype?