Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre software for video calls
It depends on your use case. For private voice/ video calls between 2-3 users, Jami or Tox are P2P options. Wire can work for small groups too (Telegram has a nonfree server, and I'm told Signal can only do 1=1 voice/ video). For larger voice/ video meetings, I recommend Big Blue Button. But you'd either need to self-hosted your own instance, or find one that's available for public use. The thing with any web-based conference service like Zoom, Jitsi Meet, or Big Blue Button, is that the conference can be entered by anyone who can get a copy of the conference URL. Sometimes these services can allow a password to be set for a conference, so a Bad Actor would need both the URL and password to spy on or disrupt it. But they're still more vulnerable than services like Wire that require users to authenticate before getting access to the system. Systems like Jami that don't depend on a server are (in theory) even less vulnerable to Bad Actors.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre software for video calls
Even with a wire connection, Jami and Jitsi didn't work well for us between two European countries. After long research and a few months of high telephone bills, we started to use Wire which has been published under the GPL v.3 so it should be considered free software ... Have a look at https://trisquel.info/en/forum/jami-and-jitsi-unreliable-video-calls for more exchange about video chat!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre software for video calls
Hi! I use it on my laptop and phone. I've used it for texting and voice chats / calls. A friend also used it sharing their camera with me as well. So far it was all 1-to-1 communication. So far I did not have any issues with it. The phone app has some negative reviews, but I did not experience any of the mentioned issues so far. I wish it was not a centralized service and looked into Gajim + OMEMO support. I wanted to build everything in the most up to date version, including GTK and stuff, but that proved wy too much work and I got stuck, so Wire is what I use currently. Regards, Zelphir On 3/19/20 12:00 PM, trisquel-users-requ...@listas.trisquel.info wrote: > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 11:28:01 +0700 > From: Ade Malsasa Akbar > To: User help and discussion > Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre software for video calls > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Thanks Zelphir. I know Wire client is free software as it was > mentioned by the FSF twice[1][2]. But I am curious how do you use > Wire. How about video calls? How about voice call? How many people you > talk with?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre software for video calls
Video calls worked well for me when using a free Linphone account with Blink (the other party also used Blink but on Windows).
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre software for video calls
Thanks Zelphir. I know Wire client is free software as it was mentioned by the FSF twice[1][2]. But I am curious how do you use Wire. How about video calls? How about voice call? How many people you talk with? [1] https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Collection:High_Priority_Projects [2] https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Collection:Privacy_pack
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre software for video calls
> Jitsi Desktop but it's not included in Trisquel. Is it not libre software? It is free software. You can download the debian packages here: https://download.jitsi.org/jitsi/debian/ You can use gdebi to install jitsi. You probably have to install jitsi-archive-keyring_1.0.1_all.deb first. Then install jitsi_2.10.5550-1_amd64.deb According to jitsi's forum the jitsi packages are still maintained. > Is Jitsi Meet safe and libre? Meet jitsi is free software. If you install meet jitsi on your own computer, then you know your meet jitsi sessions are run by free software. If you use meet.jit.si then you are using software, which runs on someone else hardware. Maybe you can trust it, maybe you cannot. You will have to decide. It will surprise me, if there is something sketchy about meet.jit.si. If it is about making it more difficult for an opponent to spy on your communication, meet.jit.si likely qualifies. There is a man in the middle attack which is relevant regarding meet.jit.si. It is complicated and since I did not understand it fully, I am not going to try to explain. I think it is the same attack which also is in question about protonmail.com. I have tested jitsi desktop on a debian 10 computer. Audio and video and messaging works. Desktop sharing did not work well. On meet.jit.si audio and video and messaging has worked well on debian 10 firefox. Desktop sharing works better than on jitsi desktop. But you frequently have to reload the website.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre software for video calls
Hi! Wire has a GPL3 licensed client. Not sure about the server. For me Wire worked great so far and I also use it on my phone. Just wanted to throw that one in. Regards, Zelphir
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre software for video calls
For my online course, aside from using Telegram as voice call (one on one), I use Jitsi Meet for screen sharing as I teach GNU/Linux via that. Jitsi has a gratis server everybody could create at anytime to use with multiple users at https://meet.jit.si which I use to do voice conference with my students. I'm sorry I don't know about video call as I do not use that feature.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre software for video calls
nice username. I am also interested in this. they are suggesting we use "zoom" which is certainly not free at our university. Jitsi seems to not allow audio in abrowser for some reason. this might be a settings issue but i couldn't fix it even though i can verify my microphone is on and picking up sound in other programs
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre software for video calls
I used jami a little bit over the last year. I had some earlier problems last year but it has been good for me recently. That said I was using it only for 1-1 voice calls (from Trisquel GNU/Linux) recently. I've had good video calls too. I don't know what is the required bandwidth but certainly such comms can be sensitive to wifi connection strength. Therefore you may wish to use a wired network connection or make sure you are not too far from your wifi antenna. Has anyone experience of jami/jitsi with many users, with screensharing to show a Libre Office presentation? With the covid-19 lockdown I'm finding colleagues wanting to use video conferencing more so it would be good when free software solves it without destroying privacy/IT security. I don't know about jitsi. I'll have to check that out sometime if its free software.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre software for video calls
Hello again! Over the last two weeks, both jami and jitsi have proven to be not as reliable as in the beginning. I feel dissatisfied because videos tend to freeze once every few minutes and sound quality is very variable (from excellent to barely understandable). This is true both for jami and jitsi. How can I find out if I can change anything about it? The problems persist even using a LAN cable connection to the router so I subspect it has got something to do with bandwidth or the jami/jitsi servers. Does anybody else encounter similar problems with jami/jitsi? Is a bandwidth of 10 Mb/s upstream sufficient for VoIP calls? Thanks in advance!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre software for video calls
Thank you very much for your help! We are using both Jami and Jitsi Meet and both work quite well.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre software for video calls
GNU Jami is very good. Best, Michael What is GNU? Check out https://www.gnu.org/ GPG Key: 4337 2794 C8AD D5CA 8FCF FA6C D037 59DA B600 E3C0
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libre software for video calls
There is this thing called "riot-web" based on that matrix stuff in the parabola repositories. It does not seem to be in trisquel repositories for some reason. At least not by that name. But if it is in the Parabola ones it's libre. I have used Jitsi through a web browser which is my preferred option. It doesn't even require you to make an account! This seems like the most convenient thing. You just create an old fashioned chatroom and then share the link with your family.
[Trisquel-users] Libre software for video calls
Hello everybody, Which software do you recommend for video calls? I tried Linphone but encounter problems (See https://trisquel.info/en/forum/linphone-doesnt-work). I also looked for Jitsi Desktop but it's not included in Trisquel. Is it not libre software? Is Jitsi Meet safe and libre? Thanks in advance!
