[Trisquel-users] Re : low priced devices which surveillance you

[pinmaritim]

yes, thats what i meant,with another pc one would have to monitor all  
incoming/outgoing packets/connections ;-).

[Trisquel-users] Re : low priced devices which surveillance you

[lcerf]

My understanding is that you will not sniff anything if a tiny secret  
computer (the real master on all peripherals), inside the same box, runs the  
malware.  You need another computer sniffing what is going in/out of the  
monitored machine.

[Trisquel-users] Re : low priced devices which surveillance you

[pinmaritim]

Maybe wireshark and other pieces of software I do not know about, are  
relevant in order to disclose the

botnet and surveillance software should it be there.
Yes, you can monitor your network with a network sniffer (like with tcpdump)  
(wireshark)ZenmapE, therApe is a nice friendly gui's.

http://www.aboutdebian.com/monitor.htm

[Trisquel-users] Re : low priced devices which surveillance you

[pinmaritim]

Aside from the phone actually spying on it's users, metadata correlation,  
network, tringualtion, isp..


Invisible Infrastructures : Surveillance Architecture
https://labs.rs/en/invisible-infrastructures-surveillance-achitecture/

 let’s start from the beginning and explain the way a device connects to a  
network, or rather how it authenticates itself on the network. For the  
purpose of authentication the device uses 2 ID numbers, the first one is the  
device’s IMEI number (International Mobile Station Equipment Identity), and  
the SIM card’s IMSI number (International Mobile Subscriber Identity). Both  
numbers are unique and predefined for every device/SIM card. The mobile  
carriers have an infrastructures of Base Stations (BS) that are  
geographically distributed throughout the area that’s being served by the  
operator

[Trisquel-users] Re : low priced devices which surveillance you

[lcerf]

As far as I understand rms criticizes the way the technology was designed: by  
triangulation, the phone operators can quite precisely locate its customers.   
If the code running on the modem was free, that problem would persist.


@tonless: summing up what Soon.to.be.Free explained, Debian would not know  
the mere existence of the chip it does not run on (and that would be the real  
"master" of the device).