Re: [Trisquel-users] Safety of CommunityCube

2015-09-21 Thread tomlukeywood

is there a source on this image?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Safety of CommunityCube

2015-09-21 Thread vfvs
https://github.com/CommunityCube/debian-autoscript but I haven't checked  
deeply.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Safety of CommunityCube

2015-09-21 Thread jadedml

It's on the IndieGoGo project.
https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/744/684/b1863c61b126f317c1b03d3c391f921e_original.jpg?v=1430952891=700==max=format=92=77e2c58e057fb029ba4ab213db8242c2


Re: [Trisquel-users] Safety of CommunityCube

2015-09-21 Thread jadedml
The infographic is trying to say that "Files & docs" are priceless, not that  
they're worthless.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Safety of CommunityCube

2015-09-21 Thread tomlukeywood

i should of said is there a source for the data on the image?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Safety of CommunityCube

2015-09-21 Thread moxalt
Actually unvaluable should just be 'not valuable' or something along those
lines. 'Invaluable' means the same thing as valuable (although with a meaning
more along the lines of 'indispensable'), in the same way that inflammable
means the same thing as flammable.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Safety of CommunityCube

2015-09-20 Thread jadedml
There have been fifty-bazillion of these freaking little turn-on-and-done  
cube servers on KickStarter over the past few months, and all of them have  
some non-free components, or some iffy areas.


TL;DR You're better off using your desktop as a server.


[Trisquel-users] Safety of CommunityCube

2015-09-20 Thread vfvs
Hi guys, I've recently found this nice piece of hardware claims to use all  
FOSS and to be OpenHardware.


https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/communitycube-the-nsa-hates-us#/story
https://www.communitycube.net/ (official websiste)

and this is the distribution It's running with informations about technology  
It uses


https://www.cageos.org/

I find this solution very interesting, in particular for the nice  
decentralized cloud, with high level of encryption but I'm a little bit  
worried about the safety (for example guys from the guardian project suggest  
not to download through tor, the risk of MIM attack and so on..).

What do you think ?

Thank you all


Re: [Trisquel-users] Safety of CommunityCube

2015-09-20 Thread vfvs
I'm quite sure that the server I will self-made will have much more non-free  
components than this one. JadedCtrl have you checked or are you talking  
generically about these kind of projects ? Because It will be bad to judge  
something that could be the freest thing we could have for now, without  
evaluting deeply.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Safety of CommunityCube

2015-09-20 Thread chris
"Community Cube uses the boards ODROID-XU3 Lite from Hardkernel, which is 99%  
open, and you can run any Linux based operating system on it. " and "which is  
99% open".


I think that speaks for itself. No, it's not "open" / free. It's dependent on  
proprietary bits (I believe a bootloader in this case at a minimum). They  
*could* have gone with a board that didn't depend on non-free bits like the  
Banana Pi or the Cubieboard or maybe even the Beagle Bone Black (? uncertain  
about this one although I know its being used by certain free software people  
?). They didn't.


Most of these projects aren't providing enough technical details to even  
begin evaluating them. Short of spending a lot of time investigating I'd have  
to say this campaign is a no-go.


Right now I'm more interested in projects like Maidsafe which is a project to  
develop a distributed decentralized [bit]coin fuelled storage system. The  
other interesting project I've come across is Mailpile (it has GPG  
integrated). There is also another hardware venture that is attempting to  
some similar to projects we've got under way. Ultimately they seem to have it  
well thought out, but it's a year or more off. I think we can get something  
out the door sooner even if there efforts ultimately better in the long  
run...


We'll see. Sometimes competition is good. Sometimes not soo much.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Safety of CommunityCube

2015-09-20 Thread jadedml
Either they don't understand how US currency works or they missed a few  
zeroes to make the numbers thousands...

And unvaluable should be *invaluable...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Safety of CommunityCube

2015-09-20 Thread jadedml

I was speaking in general.
9 time out of 10 if a hardware project says it's "completely open" or "fully  
FOSS," it's just open-washing.

Turns out that guess was right, though, according to Chris'es comment.