Re: [Trisquel-users] UNetbootin won't install on Trisquel 7
I am using UNetbootin because I wasn't aware of the "dd" method you suggest. Thanks for the link, I'll have a go with that. That said, I'm now confident enough to experiment with terminal commands, and I have enough experience (not to mention patience) to figure out a way of getting GNU/Linux booted so I can follow your instructions. Ten years ago, when first learning to use GNU/Linux, your "dd" solution would have been intimidating enough to make me give up and keep using Windows. Thus having a cross-platform graphical bootUSB creator like UNetbootin, and doing everything we can to make sure it works reliably with libre distros, is very important for helping GNUbies get GNU/Linux installed. This is why I think Tom's 'freenetbootin' project is important, and should be in the repos, and future releases of all libre distros tested against it. As I said further down, I can't use a LiveCD because my laptop doesn't have a CD-ROM drive. There are many devices out there now that don't, but they run GNU/Linux perfectly well if you can get it on there. Again, this is why supporting the 'freenetbootin' project is important. Unless you're all saying GNU/Linux is just for super-users and everyone else should just keep using Windows or OSX until they are l33t enough? ;)
Re: [Trisquel-users] UNetbootin won't install on Trisquel 7
Why are you even using UNetbootin? It has the potential to create all sorts of mystifying problems with the boot process, even long into the actual existence of the installation. Just prepare a boot USB with dd from the official Trisquel netinst/ Trisquel standard image, as per the instructions on the wiki or here: https://wiki.debian.org/BootUsb. It should work fine- although the GRUB installation problem never seems to go away when using installing from USB using a Debian-based installer. Just have a live CD handy to correct things- if things go wrong you can always just chroot in to resolve the issue (Lucky I had that Fedora CD lying around).
Re: [Trisquel-users] UNetbootin won't install on Trisquel 7
eactly. +1 moxalt.
Re: [Trisquel-users] UNetbootin won't install on Trisquel 7
Hmm. I wonder why it's not working reliably for me. I just got another second-hand laptop (Fujitsu Lifebook) and tried to install Belenos from the same boot USB I made with UNetbootin in Toutatis. I used the text installer, which seems to have installed without a graphic desktop. Worse, it installed GRUB to the USB stick, instead of the hard drive, meaning it's borked my boot USB, and it won't boot without the USB stick inserted. I have the UNetbootin PPA in my sources in Toutatis, so it should be the latest version, yes?
Re: [Trisquel-users] UNetbootin won't install on Trisquel 7
To solve the problem of being able to boot just when the USB device is present, and so be able to boot without it, follow this instructions: 1. Boot THE LIVE SYSTEM that's inside the USB device. 2. Use either a file manager like Nautilus, or the commands to mount the partition where YOUR INSTALLED SYSTEM is. If you choose Nautilus, find it below "Devices" and simply click on it. If you choose to use commands, you can use Blkid in conjunction with Lsblk and GNU Df to aid you on locating the correct partition to mount (partition's block devices have numbers at the end, and have disk drive's block devices as their parents, for example: "sda1" or "hda1". Note that we don't want "hda" or "sda" for now, although we will be looking for them shortly after this step), then use: sudo mount [Put the path of the block device of THE PARTITION here] "/mnt" To mount the partition's block device at "/mnt". 2. Use Lsblk to list block devices (disk drives and partitions) and their mount points, hierarchically. 3. From here, choose the DISK DRIVE's block device in which you want to install GRUB, and then take note of it. It's common practice to choose the one which is the parent of your INSTALLED SYSTEM. Note: Steps 4 through were taken from: http://superuser.com/a/111215 4. Mount the proc file system being used: sudo mount --types "proc" "/proc" "/mnt/proc" 5. Mount the sys file system: sudo mount --types "sysfs" "/sys" "/mnt/sys" 6. Mount the "/dev" as "/mnt/dev" using the "bind" option (I can't be more helpful here, as the info page for mount shows nothing about this option): sudo mount --options "bind" "/dev" "/mnt/dev" Note: This guide assumes that there is "/boot" directory inside the INSTALLED SYSTEM, that is: GRUB will look for files thre, and there is no need to mount any other partition. This note also applies to other directories such as "/usr" and "/var", except "/home". Note: We won't be using network connections inside the INSTALLED SYSTEM just for now. 7. Change the current terminal's root to "/mnt" and use "/bin/bash" as our shell: sudo chroot "/mnt" "/bin/bash" 8. Use GNU Grep to print the file "/proc/mounts", except the lines with "rootfs", and put the result at "/etc/mtab" so that GRUB can see which mount points exist: grep --invert-match "rootfs" "/proc/mounts" > "/etc/mtab" 8. Install GRUB on THE DISK DRIVE's block device, and tells GRUB to use the "/boot" directory from THE INSTALLED SYSTEM PARTITION's block device (the --boot-directory option is absent), and recheck the device map (just in case), : grub-install --recheck [Place the absolute/full path of THE DISK DRIVE's block device here] For example, if you want to install GRUB in "/dev/sda": grub-install --recheck "/dev/sda" 9. Update GRUB: update-grub 10. Our work is done here, let's exit and clear the mess. Leave the INSTALLED SYSTEM's partition: exit 11. Use umount to unmount the mount points previously done, like: sudo umount "/mnt/proc" sudo umount "/mnt/sys" sudo umount "/mnt/dev" sudo umount "/mnt/usr" sudo umount "/mnt/var" 12. Use umount to unmount the INSTALLED SYSTEM's partition: sudo umount "/mnt" 13. Reboot to THE INSTALLED SYSTEM. Respectfully, Adonay. Have a nice day. -- Assinatura automática – português brasileiro: – Página de usuário na wiki do LibrePlanet.org: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno – Em favor da aprovação da Lei ODF em Santa Catarina (https://secure.avaaz.org/po/petition/Aprovacao_da_Lei_ODF_em_Santa_Catarina), e para garantir os direitos humanos de igual tratamento pelo governo ou lei, de circulação dentro das fronteiras de cada nação, de participação no governo, e de igualdade no acesso aos serviços públicos, não estou aceitando arquivos do Microsoft Office ou do Apple iWork. Por favor, use o LibreOffice(https://www.libreoffice.org/) e seus formatos do padrão ODF (.odt, .odp, etc.). Automatic signature – North American English: – User page on LibrePlanet.org wiki: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno – In favor of the approval of the ODF law in Santa Catarina (https://secure.avaaz.org/po/petition/Aprovacao_da_Lei_ODF_em_Santa_Catarina), and to ensure the human rights of equal treatment by the government or law, of circulation inside the boundaries of each nation, of participation on the government, and of equality on the access to the public services, I'm not accepting Microsoft Office's files or Apple iWork's files. Please use LibreOffice (https://www.libreoffice.org/) and its formats from the ODF standard (.odt, .odp, etc). signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Trisquel-users] UNetbootin won't install on Trisquel 7
"Have you actually tested each of the free distos with freenetbootin? " yes all expect LibertyBSD
[Trisquel-users] UNetbootin won't install on Trisquel 7
I'm having problems installing UNetbootin on Trisquel 7. It's listed in Add/Remove Applications, but when I try to tick the check box, it just gives me the spinning beach ball of death. I tried using apt-get install but it just says no such package. Does anyone know what's going on here? I would prefer to install the "Freenetbootin" fork that's been discussed on this forum. Any progress on getting that into the repos?
Re: [Trisquel-users] UNetbootin won't install on Trisquel 7
Currently Freenetbootin is not in the repo's (dose anyone know how i could do this?) but the spinning wheel of death is most likely due to unetbootin is no longer in trisquels repo's due to offering to install non-free distros like ubuntu its free software though so if you want to download it you can from there website https://unetbootin.github.io/ also if you feel confident to do so (and i could help) you can compile Freenetbootin from source: https://notabug.org/tomlukeywood/FreeNetBootin
Re: [Trisquel-users] UNetbootin won't install on Trisquel 7
"dose [sic] anyone know how i could do this?" https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers/blob/belenos/CONTRIBUTING.md
Re: [Trisquel-users] UNetbootin won't install on Trisquel 7
Tom: >> the spinning wheel of death is most likely due to unetbootin is no longer in trisquels repo's > also if you feel confident to do so (and i could help) you can compile Freenetbootin from source:
Re: [Trisquel-users] UNetbootin won't install on Trisquel 7
Thanks for your suggestions. My laptop is a "netbook" (no optical drives), and the USB Creator on my Belenos instance couldn't create a GNewSense boot USB. I'll spare you the gory details (unless you're really interested) but I tried quite a few things, to no avail. In the end I booted back into my Toutatis instance, and used Unetbootin (which I'd installed from the PPA some time ago), and the same USB stick, which worked fine. I suspect the built-in USB Creator only works for Ubuntu-based distros, which excludes most of the FSF-endorsed distros. This is why I'm definitely putting in a +1 for Tom's 'freenetbootin' fork to be added to the repos for both Toutatis and Belenos.
Re: [Trisquel-users] UNetbootin won't install on Trisquel 7
Well, if you're trying to create a live copy of an operating system: If you want to put it into a CD or a DVD, use an disc image recorder such as Brasero or K3B if you really want a graphical user interface. Or if you want to put it into an USB drive, you can use USB Creator (usb-creator-gtk in the default GNU+Linux-libre Trisquel installation). Respectfully, Adonay. Have a nice day. -- Assinatura automática – português brasileiro: – Página de usuário na wiki do LibrePlanet.org: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno – Em favor da aprovação da Lei ODF em Santa Catarina (https://secure.avaaz.org/po/petition/Aprovacao_da_Lei_ODF_em_Santa_Catarina), e para garantir os direitos humanos de igual tratamento pelo governo ou lei, de circulação dentro das fronteiras de cada nação, de participação no governo, e de igualdade no acesso aos serviços públicos, não estou aceitando arquivos do Microsoft Office ou do Apple iWork. Por favor, use o LibreOffice(https://www.libreoffice.org/) e seus formatos do padrão ODF (.odt, .odp, etc.). Automatic signature – North American English: – User page on LibrePlanet.org wiki: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno – In favor of the approval of the ODF law in Santa Catarina (https://secure.avaaz.org/po/petition/Aprovacao_da_Lei_ODF_em_Santa_Catarina), and to ensure the human rights of equal treatment by the government or law, of circulation inside the boundaries of each nation, of participation on the government, and of equality on the access to the public services, I'm not accepting Microsoft Office's files or Apple iWork's files. Please use LibreOffice (https://www.libreoffice.org/) and its formats from the ODF standard (.odt, .odp, etc). signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
