Re: [Trisquel-users] Vim vs Emacs

2017-11-30 Thread calmstorm 

vim is probably the hardest I imagine...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Vim vs Emacs

2017-11-30 Thread ablocorrea 
Nano is wonderful for non-programmers or for editing small configuration txt  
files, but not for proper coding.


If you want to give something more advanced a try, Emacs has a nice tutorial  
that can be accessed from the main menu after installing, because it is a bit  
tricky to start using Emacs and Vim at the beginning.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Vim vs Emacs

2017-11-30 Thread Caleb Herbert 
On Thu, 2017-11-30 at 22:11 +0100, shiret...@web.de wrote:
> Why did you make the change?

  * vi keys on Dvorak are weird
  * I wanted to explore Lisp
  * I wanted a challenge
  * I wanted to experience what Stallman uses all the time

> Are there any specific advantages?

  * best for editing Lisp code
  * closest Synaptic-like GUI front-end to GNU Guix, so far
  * best for editing Info manuals
  * babel in Org Mode lets you edit code samples in your documents
as if they're their own files, with syntax highlighting
appropriate for the snippet's language.
  * babel in Org Mode facilitates literate programming and immediate
documentation/reformatting of a program's results into, for
example, an Org Mode table, which can export to an HTML/LaTeX
table
  * recursive grep in Emacs shell is VERY interactive, returning a
list of links that automatically open the file and place your
cursor on the exact point of the search result
  * narrowing (Control-x n n) lets you focus on sections of a large
file without distractions
  * Web Mode lets you have proper indentation and highlighting rules
for files that have a mix of languages - CSS, JavaScript and
HTML.
  * If you need to type weird characters not supported by your
system's input method system, you can quickly whip up an Emacs
Quail input method with a simple list key-value pairs.  I've
done it for Phoenecian and ancient Egyptian before.  I've also
done it for the Wikipedia phonetic spelling system for English.
  * You can use multiple cursors in the same buffer, allowing you to
reproduce a lot of work and make complex region selections
  * Every time I save my HTML files, the timestamp is updated.
  * Emacs has a command to convert CSV text to an org table, which
can be converted to HTML
  * you can make it behave exactly like Vim, but with even more
features: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWD1Fpdd4Pc
  * ... (I'll stop here.)

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Re: [Trisquel-users] Vim vs Emacs

2017-11-30 Thread leestrobel 
I quite like nano. It seems simple and pretty much does what I want. Although  
I'd be willing to try something else, if someone can convince me of the error  
of my ways.


Which one is best for coding?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Vim vs Emacs

2017-11-30 Thread shiretoko 

Why did you make the change?
Are there any specific advantages?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Vim vs Emacs

2017-11-30 Thread Caleb Herbert 
I moved FROM Vim TO Emacs. 

That said, I still sometimes use Vim.  Check out my vimrc:
https://notabug.org/csh/dotfiles/src/master/.vimrc

Re: [Trisquel-users] Vim vs Emacs

2017-11-30 Thread shiretoko 

I never used emacs, but I LOVE vim.
And since there is nothing i'm missing, I won't make any switch.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Vim vs Emacs

2017-11-30 Thread Caleb Herbert 
On Thu, 2017-11-30 at 17:49 +0100, aggeliszo...@prtonmail.com wrote:
> What is better and why?

Emacs.

> why emacs is not pre-installed ?

I don't know, but many people prefer to build Emacs from source.

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[Trisquel-users] Vim vs Emacs

2017-11-30 Thread aggeliszotis 

What is better and why?
why emacs is not pre-installed ?