Re: [Trisquel-users] have you installed signal on replicant?

2017-12-22 Thread Ignacio Agulló
On 22/12/17 03:22,  wrote:
> Doesn't Signal usually use Google play services to make the contact
> links? I know there is a Libre version (https://fdroid.eutopia.cz/)
> but it uses a different server backend to make it work.

 Humm... I think not.  I have not Google Play, but I have Signal.

> Am I missing something here?

 I get the feeling that I'm missing something too.

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Ignacio Agulló · agu...@ati.es



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Re: [Trisquel-users] have you installed signal on replicant?

2017-12-22 Thread fbits

Edit for mailing list:

[1] Edited to explain that saying he claimed to be an anarchist was not a  
criticism, but rather that he does not seem to be so based on the actions and  
philosphy he espouses for his software development.


[2] Changed from "a federated version" to "an easy to use federated chat"  
which is what I meant.


Re: [Trisquel-users] have you installed signal on replicant?

2017-12-22 Thread fbits
This was true for a long time but not anymore. As far as I can see, at some  
point (not too long ago) the pressure was too big and they released a version  
independent from gapp (several people made forks, some using Signal(TM)'s  
brandname and these were threatened with legal action). An official apk is  
now available through their website and it is independent of gapp, though I  
think they say somewhere that it is not recommended.


From the little I know, Marlinspike (OWS founder) looks down on most others.  
At some point I remember he claimed he would not create a non gapp dependent  
version because he would not have all the download and usage stats that  
google provided his company (aside from defficient push notifications).


He does not hold the free software community in high regard and is happy to  
collaborate with all the largest digital monopolies. As I remember he also  
claims to be an anarchist.


Having said all of this and from a purely utilitarian point of view, Signal  
has provided an easy-to-use platform for non-technical people. It is a shame  
they would not make any effort for the technically capable, ethically  
concerned users. I hope a federated version run by down-to-earth people will  
be available and will achieve at least similar userbase among non-technical  
users someday.


On the upside, he seems to be a good coder and there's been at least one  
independent audit at Oxford Uni that found no major flaws in design. OWS's  
work has probably made government mass surveillance more difficult on every  
platform that uses Signal's code (Though who is to say what code Facebook is  
actually running or whether they've introduced backdoors).


The following thread is a request to include Signal on f-droid and is quite  
enlightening of Marlinspike's (username: Moxie) attitude toward free  
software, federated networks (XMPP and Chatsecure in particular), monopoly  
corporations and his peers:  
https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37


Re: [Trisquel-users] have you installed signal on replicant?

2017-12-21 Thread jabjabs
Doesn't Signal usually use Google play services to make the contact links? I  
know there is a Libre version (https://fdroid.eutopia.cz/) but it uses a  
different server backend to make it work.


Am I missing something here?


Re: [Trisquel-users] have you installed signal on replicant?

2017-12-21 Thread svhaab

>6.1

Newest version is replicant 6.0 0003?

In security, unknown sources must you enable allow installation of apps from  
unknown sources?


You download the signal apk. Move it to a sd card. Where do you locate the  
signal apk file on the replicant phone?


>open it

How do you open the signal apk?

Thank you.


[Trisquel-users] have you installed signal on replicant?

2017-12-20 Thread svhaab

https://signal.org/android/apk/
How do you install signal on replicant? Thanks.