Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-25 Thread shiretoko 
I read the description and it definitly says that it will send SMS messages -  
no internet connection requiered.

So no, it's not textsecure.
I also wonder why textsecure doesn't show up in fdroid.
Does anyone have a solution?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-25 Thread franparpe 

Thank you very much, now I have to make a difficult decision:

I've been trying conversations with a Jappix xmpp account and I've loved it  
but Kontalk seems very easy to setup specially for my non-tech friends...


Mmmm

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-25 Thread mcz 

I see, thanks quantumgravity.
Telegram is fine, though I'd love a setting that uses the encrypted  
communication by default.

I mean if we can encrypt, why use the unencrypted version?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-24 Thread ark 

You may wanna check this out,

https://blogs.fsfe.org/h2/2014/06/25/secure-texting-and-why-fsfe-cares/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-24 Thread mcz 
I can't find text Secure, but SMS secure is suggested. I suppose it's one and  
the same.

So it's not actually SMS, but the same as What'sapp then?
I see there's an encryption option, just like Telegram.
But there's no warning on F-droid, unlike with Telegram (about that server  
thing).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-23 Thread franparpe 

thank you very much :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-23 Thread Dave Hunt 
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-23 Thread greatgnu 

glad you like it. :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-22 Thread tomlukeywood 

Converse.js?
https://conversejs.org/#page-top

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-22 Thread shiretoko 
You can use secure chats in telegram, which provide end-to-end encryption  
(you can't use this feature with the normal telegram client for gnu-linux,  
but there are other, un-official free software clients that allow you to use  
it on your desktop as well), then you don't have to worry about the server  
software for the sake of privacy.
Please also remember that it doesn't really matter if the server software is  
free or not unless you want to setup your own server.
If you use the server of some other guy, you give away the control over your  
data anyway, because he has control over the server (no matter if he claims  
to run this piece of free software on it or not).


Besides, telegram is awesome from a practicle point of view. It's far  
superior to whatsapp and i don't understand why everyone would still stick to  
the latter one.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-22 Thread franparpe 

I have some inconveniences with conversations:

- I can share media but not in a room. (I'm using dukgo.com)

- If the user is not connected, the message send to that specific user is  
lost.


That are the only issues.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-22 Thread trinux 
1. XEP-: HTTP File Upload allows you to share files in conferences and  
with offline contacts. Requires an additional component on your server.


http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/http-upload.html

2. That is not true: Offline messages: if you send a message to a contact  
who is currently offline, they’ll see your message then they log in.


From: https://communicationfreedom.wordpress.com/jabberxmpp/

It's more, take look:

* XEP-0280: Message Carbons which automatically syncs the messages you send  
to your desktop client and thus allows you to switch seamlessly from your  
mobile client to your desktop client and back within one conversation.


* XEP-0313: Message Archive Management synchronize message history with the  
server. Catch up with messages that were sent while Conversations was  
offline.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-22 Thread greatgnu 

neko.im is a nice jabber service aslackohere

just send a male to nul...@neko.im with the desired username and you'll get  
the psswd in 2 minutes by mail :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-22 Thread franparpe 
Thank you so much trinux. I realized that the problem was from  
duckduckgo.com: I used jappix for the test and everything went allright,  
problem 2 was duckgo's fault


I will start another thread for recomendations about a xmpp server

Thank you again everyone, I think I choose xmpp. It has the advantage that it  
can also be used for videoconference.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-21 Thread vita_cell 
I think that telegram has a function called private chat, is means that you  
can chat device to device, not device-server-device.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-21 Thread vita_cell 
No doubt, just telegram, and a lot better that crappy crapsapp. You can  
download a desktop version, and it is portable. In telegram only encryption  
is propietary.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-21 Thread franparpe 
Ok, now telegram is on my list. But I want to hear about more alternatives  
because I heard that the server is proprietary.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-21 Thread jadedml 

Telegram.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-21 Thread Dave Hunt 
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I know you can share files in irc and xmpp; not sure about tox or
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-21 Thread tomlukeywood 

yes you can share files across IRC

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-21 Thread tomlukeywood 

Use IRC?

very easy to setup(IMO)
and just can host your own server or just use the freenode server

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-21 Thread greatgnu 

https://ssd.eff.org/en/module/how-install-and-use-chatsecure

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-21 Thread trinux 

Conversations + the server (XMPP) of your choice (like jabber.at)


https://github.com/siacs/Conversations

https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=Conversationsfdid=eu.siacs.conversations

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-21 Thread franparpe 

Can we share media like photos in Conversations?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Help me get rid of WhatsApp.

2015-08-21 Thread franparpe 
Thank you, I think I will try to use Conversations with an IRC chanel or try  
XMPP, I will need some time to figure things up and try to convince my  
friends. I'm still listening for more alternatives though.