Re: [Trisquel-users] I have to use non free software. Would that make Trisquel redundant?

2020-03-09 Thread zapper
Nah, its not I have to use, just for old school games i like that aren't  
usable outside of emulation, etc...


Why what do you need to use? If your computer is fast enough, I suppose you  
could run stuff in a virtual machine if needed.






Re: [Trisquel-users] I have to use non free software. Would that make Trisquel redundant?

2020-03-08 Thread thomas

What non-free software do you have to use? Is it for work? School?


Re: [Trisquel-users] I have to use non free software. Would that make Trisquel redundant?

2020-03-08 Thread zapper
 Using non-free software on a libre software computer aka one with a fully  
free distro, is something some people probably do.  If you have to though, I  
recommend keeping that stuff as disconnected from the internet as possible.



That being said, I agree with thejames. although I understand some users will  
break rule 2.  I myself have on occasion, but yeah its better to not break  
that rule.


As a rule of thumb, the default software on any free software laptop should  
have nothing proprietary or freedom restricting.  Emulators included, but the  
files they run are another story entirely... some would say these matter, but  
meh to each his own.



I would refer to my first post though if you seriously want a quick answer to  
your question.


Long story short, if you have to, use non-free, better to have the rest of it  
be freedom respecting to offset some security issues as much as possible.


But obviously not recommended. ;)


Re: [Trisquel-users] I have to use non free software. Would that make Trisquel redundant?

2020-03-06 Thread behmen
I recommend Manjaro to every windows user wanting to use GNU/Linux because it  
is a 'gamer' distro so many non-free games,non-free GPU Drivers, and non-free  
applications are available. It is rolling release, which is more similar to  
what windows has where applications just decide to f---ing update whenever  
they please. It is easier to install then Arch, who in the right mind would  
recommend Arch to a windows user?


Feel free to replace 'windows' with 'mac' above

Though Ubuntu would be also be a great non-free alternative. There's a huge  
amounts of online Q and A's regarding Ubuntu. It's also really easy for a  
user to figure how to install what they need. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] I have to use non free software. Would that make Trisquel redundant?

2020-03-05 Thread Caleb Herbert
On 3/5/20 2:49 AM, beh...@protonmail.com wrote:
> If you have any craptops laying around in your home, that no one is
> using, my recommendation would be to install a version of GNU/Linux like
> Manjaro. It will have non-free drivers, and also non-free applications.

Manjaro sucks.  Why not use something more standard like an official
flavor of Ubuntu, or regular Arch?

-- 
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KE0VVT
(816) 892-9669
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Re: [Trisquel-users] I have to use non free software. Would that make Trisquel redundant?

2020-03-05 Thread jamesdhazlett

I have four rules for advising and helping others on software matters

Never tell them to read X and that will solve their problem
It is a big world and free software is about giving people choices to inform  
themselves on and grow knowledge. There is nothing wrong about simplifying  
something that will be entered into a search engine later.


Always advise FOSS whenever possible
FOSS works with everythings, is more secure, generally cheaper if not  
outright free, has community support and most importantly does not try to  
control the user.


Do not tell them to use X
Commenting someone doesn't “get it” because they don't use software your  
familiar is arrogant. Help when you can. when you can’t advise rule 2 or  
learn more yourself.


When rule 2 or 3 are conflict, apply rule 3 then use rule 2.

Trisquel perfects rule 2. It's the perfect OS in that regard. Still it does  
not violate rule 3. It gives you 100% FOSS OS after that if you choose to use  
non-free. Trisquel steers you away but allows it. You know all the non-free  
blobs you are using, you can keep them limited or you have a VM with that  
software isolated.


If the whole world started doing FOSS improperly we would go a lot further  
than a half a dozen laptops with perfect Trisquel. Take pride in how close  
you are.




Re: [Trisquel-users] I have to use non free software. Would that make Trisquel redundant?

2020-03-05 Thread behmen
If you have any craptops laying around in your home, that no one is using, my  
recommendation would be to install a version of GNU/Linux like Manjaro. It  
will have non-free drivers, and also non-free applications.


If something like that would not solve your problems I would just install  
windows on that craptop.


I personally find it nicer to keep my x200 libre machine completely free,  
whereas using non-free programs are restricted to a non-free computer.


I also use a iphone, which is non-free, which I hope to switch to a  
Pinephone, which will be mostly free.


Wish you the best in trying to stay free 


Re: [Trisquel-users] I have to use non free software. Would that make Trisquel redundant?

2020-03-04 Thread David Philipe Gil
On my Trisquel machine, I have a VM installed that has Windows on it. I treat 
my non-free software as a utility, but I make it inconvenient to use. I always 
reach for the free software first. I fyou have that situation, I think thats 
ideal.

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Re: [Trisquel-users] I have to use non free software. Would that make Trisquel redundant?

2020-03-04 Thread Caleb Herbert
On 3/4/20 5:43 AM, mang...@mail.com wrote:
> Do you think that its redundant to use Trisquel as my main desktop OS
> and install non free software on it? Should I just have separate
> laptops, one exclusively free and another non free out of necessity?

I think this was asked just a few days ago.

The answer is NO.

When using Trisquel, you have to make a deliberate decision to install
the software.  The OS will not offer it to you.  Polluting a free system
is much better than using a proprietary system with even more
proprietary packages installed.

I once thought of getting a cheapo laptop with Windows 10 on it for
"development purposes", to help build up-to-date Windows packages for
free programs, and to curate a free software userspace for Windows that
I could recommend to people and easily transfer over to Trisquel.
Ultimately, I decided against it, because I realized small things in
Windows might creep into my life and I would slowly find myself using
Windows more and more.

If possible, create another user account for the proprietary software,
and only install it for that user.  Do not install it across the system.
 This way, you have to step out of your normal desktop to use the
software, and return back as soon as possible.  Also, it has no access
to your home directory.

I am sorry you are in such a horrible situation, that would cause you to
ask a question like this.  What features are you missing?

-- 
Caleb Herbert
KE0VVT
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https://bluehome.net/csh


Re: [Trisquel-users] I have to use non free software. Would that make Trisquel redundant?

2020-03-04 Thread xliang9550
Trisquel, as a free/libre distribution, respects your freedom 0, including  
the "freedom" to install non-free software. Just do your best to avoid  
non-free software whenever possible.