Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-02-02 Thread studio

> Install icecat and linux-libre's RPM, and you're good to go!

IceCat seems to be just a rebranded Firefox inheriting all the FF's privacy  
issues, so I wouldn't say it is a "good to go" thing without meticulous fine  
tuning:


https://trisquel.info/en/forum/web-browser?page=4#comment-127390


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-02-01 Thread Caleb Herbert
The GNU Free Software Distribution Guidelines is a modified copy of the
Fedora community guidelines.  Red Hat's rules for Fedora are in almost
complete agreement with the FSF's requirements.

Unlike Debian, non-free repos are in no way owned or hosted by the
Fedora Project.

Unlike Debian, licensing was taken more seriously by Red Hat, and only
by their requirements for Fedora did people get the ball rolling on
freeing some code in TeX and X11.  (Debian looked the other way until
Red Hat stepped in, because having graphics are kinda important.)

The sole disagreement between the FSF/GNU FSDG and Fedora is:
proprietary firmware for Wi-Fi.

Install icecat and linux-libre's RPM, and you're good to go! 

Fedora is a beautiful OS, and it comes with a polish that only a large
community + a big free software company can provide.

I <3 commercial free software!  *Runs HPLIP*


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-23 Thread greatgnu
>Especially if you have JavaScript enabled, as just the timing of your  
keystrokes is unique enough to identify you.


Yes. Not only that. Javascript can and will probably uniquely identify your  
hardware, which in the case of it being non-common will almost uniquely  
identify you, yourself.





Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-22 Thread Mason Hock
https://www.secureauth.com/products/secureauth-idp/behavioral-biometrics

The site can be viewed and navigated with JavaScript disabled. If you don't 
already have JS disabled or NoScript installed in your browser, I insist that 
you do so before visiting this site. Assuming they eat their own dog food, you 
can expect that their JavaScript will use their behavioral biometric techniques 
on you.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-22 Thread studio
Look for "Tor and the Dark Art of Anonymity" book by Lance Henderson. A  
little old and perhaps doesn't reflect all the things of today but still  
good.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-22 Thread sophoclestechnologies

> A point of huge importance is missing: your writing style. You
> would be surprised how much it can give away in some cases.

>Indeed. Especially if you have JavaScript enabled, as just
>the timing of your keystrokes is unique enough to identify you.

How do you know about these things? How can one learn more?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-22 Thread Mason Hock
> Just close the browser and reopen it or click on 'new identity',
> which is the same

Alternatively, Ctrl+Shift+L creates a new identity just for the current tab.

> A point of huge importance is missing: your writing style. You
> would be surprised how much it can give away in some cases.

Indeed. Especially if you have JavaScript enabled, as just the timing of your 
keystrokes is unique enough to identify you.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-22 Thread greatgnu

I will assume the question is directed to me, Aristophanes.
Well, their website is full of cute bears. Other than that I wouldn't really  
know.


Do your own research and never rely on random opinions when investigating an  
important subject, that's all I can say, I guess.


https://thatoneprivacysite.net/vpn-section/


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-22 Thread greatgnu
>This behavior leads to weak anonymity because once the website is visited  
the Tor circuit is "dirty".


Just close the browser and reopen it or click on 'new identity', which is the  
same



>Do not Disclose Identifying Data Online

A point of huge importance is missing: your writing style. You would be  
surprised how much it can give away in some cases.






Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-22 Thread Mason Hock
I haven't gotten around to figuring I2P out because I haven't needed it, but 
this might be a good place to start: 
https://thetinhat.com/tutorials/darknets/i2p.html


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-22 Thread sophoclestechnologies
Is there a good information source you could point to on how I2P for  
torrenting works?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-22 Thread sophoclestechnologies

What about TunnelBear VPN? It offers 500MB of free data every month.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-22 Thread Mason Hock
> Just because you can hide your IP address and browser parameters
> doesn't mean you can't be tracked through Tor.

Indeed. Using Tor irresponsibly is worse than not using Tor at all. This is a 
good list of common pitfalls that really should be displayed when users start 
Tor Browser for the first time. https://www.whonix.org/wiki/DoNot


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-22 Thread greatgnu

Oh, I see, well done then :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-22 Thread studio
These test are fairly meaningless and can give you a false sense of security  
(which is worse than knowing a system is insecure).


Just because you can hide your IP address and browser parameters doesn't mean  
you can't be tracked through Tor. An advanced spying system detects actual  
patterns of online behavior (sites you visit, where you login etc) which can  
be investigated further for similar patterns and you can get pinned. So Tor  
per se gives you a default anonymity - that's all. But how you will use this  
anonymity is nothing anyone could give you, so you can still expose yourself.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-21 Thread gnuser
Some cool websites I have used to test for leaks with Tor and other  
solutions:


www.whoer.net
www.doileak.com
www.check.torproject.org
www.checkmytorrentip.upcoil.com
www.ip6.nl

These are good enough to know if there are some leaks in your system or  
not... Of course some applications might screw your privacy / anonymity in  
other ways...





Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-21 Thread gnuser

I wrote it in the style of reply to previous comment.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-21 Thread studio

Yes. Commercial VPNs are no different.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-21 Thread greatgnu

>Medical Records you don't want your insurance company to know about?
A new invention you are working on and don't want a big time company to steal  
from you?
Protecting your source when you are a journalist brave enough to talk to  
people in life or death situations?



Why do you need to get so theoretical and vague? How about:

"I strongly believe in privacy. I believe what I browse, read, watch, listen  
to is **only my business** and no ISP, no State, no corporation should have  
the legal right to sniff my crap with their degenerate noses."


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-21 Thread greatgnu
>I wouldn't be surprised if some free VPNs are created/funded by those who  
you are trying to hide from



Honeypot VPNs is nothing new. It has happened, it will happen. Do a brief  
search on the argument if interested.


But how about commercial VPNs? Do you think that when sgt. Eye comes knocking  
a business which sole motive is business is going to pull the plug in order  
to protect your 5 monthly dollars?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-21 Thread greatgnu

>I don't feel very OK with paying for a VPN

https://riseup.net/en/donate#donate-cryptocurrency


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-21 Thread studio

Basic security: pull the cord :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-21 Thread studio

Thanks.

I am looking to free my machines as much as possible but considering all the  
CPU issues and the lack of libreboot for any of them, I don't know how  
valuable the change of distro may be (currently openSUSE).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-21 Thread gnuser
That's high level spionage... I am going more for protect against ISP and  
copyright trolls and basic script kiddies... You know the most basic stuff.  
Tor is not effective agaainst a global adversary either. I am talking about  
basic security. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-21 Thread studio

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_size#Effect_of_quantum_computing_attacks_on_key_strength

I remember also reading (or was it a video?) about a new technology which is  
already created which would allow to read information from a computer from  
the distance, even if you are not connected to a network. So as long as you  
are withing 50m of range of that spying device, even in your home, nothing  
can save you. Unfortunately I don't have the link to it.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-21 Thread i_write_words
My understanding is that the only problem with Fedora is the kernel. This  
might be a valuable piece of information for you:


https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/selibre/linux-libre/freed-ora.en.html

Fedora 27 is current and that is honestly all I know; someone else will be  
along shortly if you have questions.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-21 Thread gnuser

That's why I have been wondering if it would be a stupid idea to use:

1, A free VPN encrypting all connections;
2. A free proxy in a torrent client (with encryption too);

Something like

My PC -> VPN -> Proxy -> internet

It's very similar to what we do with Tor

My Pc -> GuardRelay -> MiddleRelay -> ExitRelay -> Internet

Now, of course Tor is a unique case, however the idea still holds.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-21 Thread studio
I wouldn't be surprised if some free VPNs are created/funded by those who you  
are trying to hide from... One should be very careful with 'free' things.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-21 Thread gnuser

Tor is for what?

Medical Records you don't want your insurance company to know about?
A new invention you are working on and don't want a big time company to steal  
from you?
Protecting your source when you are a journalist brave enough to talk to  
people in life or death situations?


Just couldn't understand your problem with Tor...


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-21 Thread gnuser
Yeah, I noticed that much, webrtc was propably the culprit. But it only  
happened once and now I am using a couple ufw rules to prevent that kind of  
thing to happen again. Thanks!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-21 Thread gnuser

Hey quantumgravity,

Thanks for putting the conversation back on track ;)
Well, that ended up being my option using VPN + Tor, using only VPN for some  
stuff. Some people above mentioned I should "use bittorrent links to download  
ISO" but they forget that I was looking for a PRIVATE way of downloading it.  
Using bittorrent without any additional protection is like screaming out the  
window "I AM DOWNLOADING THIS AND THAT!"
And before you mention legal vs illegal downloads... I have seen people being  
harassed because of LEGAL donwloads. Makes no sense, but it did happen.


SuperTramp actually helped me getting things running in the VPN department.  
Thanks man!


I don't feel very OK with paying for a VPN... You not only disclose your IP  
to them and give them a chance of recording your traffic, you ALSO identify  
yourself in the payment process. You will never have the chance to say "I was  
not the one using the VPN on my IP" because they have your credit card (or  
whatever) information. In that regard I would prefer a free VPN, because at  
least either you are screwed from the get go (as in they will sell all your  
info to pay for the service) or they actually have nothing to use against  
you. These days there are some free VPN that MIGHT (a big MIGHT) be worthy a  
little trust.


A great solution would be to use 2 VPN in sequence... like configuring a  
tunnel, connecting to one and using that IP to connect to the other which  
would then connect to the internet (a little like Tor circuit). But from what  
I know that is impossible... right? Unless one has a local proxy working in  
an app or something, which certainly some people will know more about than  
me.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-21 Thread shiretoko

Well, I will try to get back to the topic:

it depends on the level of privacy you desire. A VPN (I use NordVPN) is  
normally enough for me.
Maybe it's an option to use VPN + Tor for smaller files and browsing, while  
sticking with normal VPN for downloading large files?





Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-20 Thread studio

I asked once a friend who is top level sysadmin and Linux expert:

Q: Why does it seem that the main distro used by web hosting providers is  
CentOS.


A: Because it is Red Hat - a standard for high quality!

But of course FSF seems to disagree with all RH distros.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Sun, 2018-01-14 at 21:44 +0100, gnu...@openmailbox.org wrote:
> Distros were an example. I have a need to download various different files  
> and don't want to be revealed what I download. Not because it's "illegal" but 
>  
> because it's private.

Sure :p

The internet is for porn, Tor is for ___.



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Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-19 Thread bob
And in addendum to that, use the torrent links for ISO images instead of  
direct downloads where possible. It's a lot less costly!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
Stop getting so many systems all the time.

If you're distro-hopping, stop it.

If you're really serious about switching to a distro, show you're
serious by donating $50 to a distro every time you switch to it.

Red Hat sells regular, no-tech-support versions of its distro for $50
each, and this has benefits: It pays the Red Hat developers who keep
GNOME and other important parts of the GNU+Linux software stack afloat.

Without Red Hat funding, GNOME would be utter garbage today.  The file
manager didn't even work.  If the GNOME team hadn' convinced Red Hat to
keep funding development when GNOME was in its infancy, it might have
never gotten off the ground. (Although another company ended up making
Nautilus.  Red Hat didn't make that.)


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-15 Thread greatgnu

>but it was giving me DNS leaks when I tested in Abrowser.

Sure about that? How did you test that? One of the main reasons they forked  
openvpn to build bitmask was indeed to take care of DNS leaks and a few other  
issues. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-14 Thread gnuser
Distros were an example. I have a need to download various different files  
and don't want to be revealed what I download. Not because it's "illegal" but  
because it's private.


I have tested the BitMask application, with the RiseUp VPN, but it was giving  
me DNS leaks when I tested in Abrowser. Any ideas how to solve it?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-14 Thread Mason Hock
> However, I have been getting some slow circuits and when I have the need to
> download large files, the download takes forever.

I would not download large files through Tor. Not only will it be very slow, it 
it will waste donated bandwidth slowing down the Tor network for others. The 
same goes for streaming videos. When I need to download a large file and don't 
have a particular need for it to be anonymous, I just use wget. If you need to 
torrent anonymously you could look into I2P.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-14 Thread studio

Why would you use TOR to download a distro?