Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-29 Thread equimanthorn

>That's a separate package: lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings. Make sure you
have that installed too.

Yes it's installed, I understand my mistake
from the terminal I type :
sudo lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings and the window open  and I can change my  
settings.


Also I have installed (and trying) Slim... both are very ugly...

I now switch back to Trisquel Mini 8, Etiona is a nice adventure for me but I  
miss the simply rock solid Flidas


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-29 Thread mason
On 10/29, equimanth...@tiscali.it wrote:
> If I open the Lightdm settings from the Lxde menu I need to type my
> password and nothing happen.

That's a separate package: lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings.  Make sure you
have that installed too.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-29 Thread equimanthorn
> So lightdm and lightdm-gtk-greeter are both installed, but it doesn't work?  
What happens? Black screen? TTY? Does startx work? Does slim work?


when I light the netbook (eeepc 1001px) Trisquel Mini 9 start in 28 seconds  
and load LXDE, I don't need to use startx, during the system install I flag  
for the automatic login.
If I open the Lightdm settings from the Lxde menu I need to type my password  
and nothing happen.


From the terminal (is italian: installato means installed, candidato means  
candidate, tabella versione means version) :

lightdm-gtk-greeter:
  Installato: 2.0.5-0ubuntu1
  Candidato:  2.0.5-0ubuntu1
  Tabella versione:
 *** 2.0.5-0ubuntu1 100
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

lightdm:
  Installato: 1.26.0-0ubuntu1+9.0trisquel1
  Candidato:  1.26.0-0ubuntu1+9.0trisquel1
  Tabella versione:
 *** 1.26.0-0ubuntu1+9.0trisquel1 500
500 https://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel etiona/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

sudo lightdm-gtk-greeter have this error:
(lightdm-gtk-greeter:1801): Gtk-WARNING **: 19:43:49.000: Theme parsing  
error: other-applications.css:377:23: The :insensitive pseudo-class is  
deprecated. Use :disabled instead.


I now want to install the ubuntu-mate-lightdm-theme from synaptic





Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-29 Thread mason
> No, the Firmware isn't free, it also didnt Work with trisquel 8. I
> Never used the WLAN Card since I installed trisquel.

I don't think non-free firmware will work with Trisquel's kernel.  My
understanding is that Linux-libre cannot load non-free firmware.  This
is not by design, but an unintentional side effect of suppressing error
messages that might "induce" the user to install non-free firmware.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-29 Thread mertenjohannes
No, the Firmware isn't free, it also didnt Work with trisquel 8. I Never used  
the WLAN Card since I installed trisquel.
But a stucked cpu and Unlimited waiting over and ob er again is Not fine.  
About Every 22 seconds the Message Appears that the firmware is Not included.  
And a prompt Never appears.. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-29 Thread mason
> > The SliM project has been abandoned (last release was 2013 and is not
> fully compatible with systemd, including logind sessions.
> 
> The version in Etiona works, even with systemd (I briefly used it until I
> got LightDM working).

GDM is in the repo too, though I haven't tested it yet.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-29 Thread mason
> I got a WLAN Card which needs a Firmware that is Not included. In Startup
> etiona says that the Firmware can not ne loaded, wait and retry with no
> time Limit and CPU stucks.

What is the firmware you need?  Is it free?


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-29 Thread mason

> I have used gdebi, but Lightdm greeter doesn't open is config window.

So lightdm and lightdm-gtk-greeter are both installed, but it doesn't work?   
What happens?  Black screen?  TTY?  Does startx work?  Does slim work?


> The SliM project has been abandoned (last release was 2013 and is not fully  
compatible with systemd, including logind sessions.


The version in Etiona works, even with systemd (I briefly used it until I got  
LightDM working).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-29 Thread mertenjohannes
I got a WLAN Card which needs a Firmware that is Not included. In Startup  
etiona says that the Firmware can not ne loaded, wait and retry with no time  
Limit and CPU stucks.


I tried Recovery on startup and started Network manually and Ethernet works!   
..
There is a message that says wlan Card will not work but Everything Else is  
Working.


Gnome-session-bin ja Not included yet?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-28 Thread equimanthorn

I have used gdebi, but Lightdm greeter doesn't open is config window.
If I can I try Slim now here is 3 o'clock :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-28 Thread mason
> hello @chaosmonk I find https://packages.ubuntu.com/
> I grab the file from here

Yes, for example, get lightdm-gtk-greeter from here:

https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/lightdm-gtk-greeter

Click on your architecture, and download the deb.  Install it with

$ sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb

or graphically using gdebi.  If you are missing dependencies you will
have to install those first.  This is not an ideal way to install
software.  It is better to use the package manager.  However, if you
want to get lightdm working this is probably the quickest way until it
hits the Trisquel 9 repo.

Alternatively, you could use another display manager for now.  Slim is
already in the repo:

$ sudo apt install slim


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-28 Thread equimanthorn

hello @chaosmonk I find https://packages.ubuntu.com/
I grab the file from here


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-28 Thread mason
> is not possible to install lightdm-gtk-greeter, the package is missing, and  
also abiword is missing too...


I see, these packages have not yet been pushed to the repo.

> what if I "take" the packages from Flidas?

I would instead grab the Bionic debs from packages.ubuntu.com and install  
them manually (let me know if you do not know how to do this), so that the  
version match what will be in Etiona.  I don't think that we will modify  
Ubuntu's version of abiword.  We did modify it in Flidas, but only to address  
a bug which has been fixed upstream.  Our version of lightdm-gtk-greeter will  
be a little different from Ubuntu's, but only for cosmetic purposes, not  
freedom issues, so it should be fine to use Ubuntu's version until Trisquel's  
is ready.  Once it's in the repos, "apt update && apt upgrade" will replace  
Ubuntu's version with Trisquel's. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-28 Thread equimanthorn

thanks @chaosmonk I try this evening when I come home from work.

Out of curiosity: someone here use Trisquel 9 as a daily driver? or only for  
test?
Trisquel Mini 8 for me is absolutely the best 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-27 Thread mason
> First problem: it seems Lightdm is not installed, but
> Synaptic says Lightdm is installed. Do you have the
> same problem?

Is lightdm-gtk-greeter installed?  (Tip: you might find it faster to run

$ apt policy lightdm-gtk-greeter

than to open up and look through synaptic.)


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-27 Thread equimanthorn

many thanks pal,
I read on your link, to see Grub simply I can press ESC without modify  
anything.

If I resolve some small problems maybe Etiona can be my daily driver.
First problem: it seems Lightdm is not installed, but Synaptic says Lightdm  
is installed. Do you have the same problem?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-27 Thread equimanthorn

Solved! Now I have Trisquel Mini 9 up and running on my netbook :)
I made a fresh install of Trisquel Mini 8 whitout encryption and with the  
access to Lxde without put the password in Lightdm.
I follow the instructions to upgrade by MD. Shahidul Islam and now I have  
Trisquel Mini 9 Etiona! In the next days I made many text to use and  
configure.
I have one question, the Grub is now "invisible" how can I configure to have  
it back?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-26 Thread behmen
Is lightdm the login screen? Because I've also gotten stuck after decrypting  
the system.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-26 Thread equimanthorn
hello I follow your instruction on a new trisquel mini installation but after  
a reboot
lightdm doesn't start. there is a way to repair it please? 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-21 Thread protonlucifer

Good to hear, thanks for clarifying it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-04 Thread sigdpsy

At first I install trisquel-8-mini. Then run: $ sudo apt update.
After updating: editing
/etc/apt/sources.list and changing "flidas" to "etiona",
and running:
$ sudo apt update
$ sudo apt install perl-modules-5.26 # to resolve a package conflict when  
upgrading

$ sudo apt upgrade
$ sudo apt dist-upgrade


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-04 Thread mason
> I mean, Wikipedia. Trisquel's page says "Default user
> interface: LXQt and MATE (9.0 or above)".

I just brought this up at the meeting. quidam does not recall discussing
LXDE vs LXQt. I don't know where the Wikipedia info came from, since
there's not citation. I don't think dropping LXDE is something we'll
need to consider until Trisquel 10.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-10-01 Thread protonlucifer
as far as I know, LXDE and LXQt are separate desktops. Maybe LXDE is no  
longer actively developed, but it's still separate.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-09-29 Thread protonlucifer
I mean, Wikipedia. Trisquel's page says "Default user interface: LXQt and  
MATE (9.0 or above)". It would be saddening if they dropped LXDE. Tell them  
they needn't next time you meet them. :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-09-29 Thread mason
> I'm getting 404 not found on the link beginning with
> jenkins.trisquel.info could you verify if the link is working for you?

Crap, it's gone. Okay, a netinstall is not possible at this time. I'll
bring this up at Friday's meeting.


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-09-29 Thread behmen
I'm getting 404 not found on the link beginning with jenkins.trisquel.info  
could you verify if the link is working for you?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-09-29 Thread mason
> Sorry! When I wrote Trisquel-netinstall i simply meant netinstall as
> opposed to mate or mini. I'm usually pressing tab to autofinish the name
> of the iso (after checking with gpg, of course) so I only had .asc .iso
> and .gpg files in downloads. I didn't have the exact name of the iso as I
> had deleted it and didn't bother to redownload just to check the name.

Okay, no problem. Well, here's the iso I know works.
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/setting-server#comment-141899


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-09-29 Thread behmen
Sorry! When I wrote Trisquel-netinstall i simply meant netinstall as opposed  
to mate or mini. I'm usually pressing tab to autofinish the name of the iso  
(after checking with gpg, of course) so I only had .asc .iso and .gpg files  
in downloads. I didn't have the exact name of the iso as I had deleted it and  
didn't bother to redownload just to check the name.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-09-28 Thread mason
> 'Sudo dd if=~/Downloads/Trisquel-netinstall of=/dev/sdb bs=1M; sync'

The only thing that looks off to me (apart from the capital "S" in
"Sudo" which I assume is just a typo in the forum post) is the file name
"Trisquel-netinstall". It should be something like
"trisquel_8.0_amd64.iso". Where did you get this file? Did you rename it
to something without a file extension yourself?


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-09-28 Thread behmen
When trying to install Trisquel 8 netinstall, is there anything special that  
needs to be done? I had been doing


'Sudo dd if=~/Downloads/Trisquel-netinstall of=/dev/sdb bs=1M; sync'

When trying to boot from parse isolinux usb in libreboot it doesn't recognize  
usb. Works fine with both Trisquel 8 - mate and Trisquel 8 - mini, also  
tested both out GUI and text mode. Do I have to go to the GRUB cli to do  
netinstall?


I'm trying to do the second method that you stated with absolute minimum  
Trisquel install before changing repository sources.


Thanks!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-09-28 Thread mason
> hi chaosmonk, perhaps you know what DE will be the default one in
> Trisquel 9 Mini?

This hasn't come up in any meetings I was present for, so I'm not sure.

> Wiki says it's lxqt, is this true? Will lxde be dropped?

Can you link to the wiki page you're referring to?


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-09-28 Thread protonlucifer
hi chaosmonk, perhaps you know what DE will be the default one in Trisquel 9  
Mini? Wiki says it's lxqt, is this true? Will lxde be dropped?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-09-28 Thread mason
> Do you know how I can get the iso for Trisquel 9?

There is none yet. I think that we are close to having a netinstall
image ready, but progress is slow. For now, I can think of three ways to
install Trisquel 9:

* debootstrap: This is probably the "right way" but not the most
  beginner friendly one.

* Upgrade from Trisquel 8: I've tested upgrading from a fresh, minimal
  install of Trisquel 8 and it worked fine. Upgrading from a system with
  more packages installed might or might not work well depending on what
  you have installed. See here[1] to see which packages are currently
  still broken in Trisquel 9.

* Migrate from Ubuntu 18.04: I haven't tested this at all, and I don't
  recommend it for now. Among other things that could go wrong, I don't
  think that all of Trisquel's branding and artwork has been package for
  Etiona yet, which shouldn't be a problem upgrading from Trisquel 8
  since the artwork will already be installed on your system, but would
  be a problem when migrating from Ubuntu since Ubuntu's
  artwork/branding will need to be replaced.

[1] https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/status-package-helpers-etiona


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Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-09-28 Thread behmen
I tried it and when doing sudo apt update then sudo apt upgrade something  
broke hahaha. I don't know if I 'technically' updated to Trisquel 9 but I  
ended up reinstalling Trisquel 8 from scratch just in case.


I read a post by Chaosmonk saying that he did it with the Trisquel  
netinstall, but when I tried to use the netinstall (libreboot or pc idk  
which) wouldn't recognize netinstall usb as a bootable drive even. So im  
kinda just stumped :P


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-09-28 Thread xliang9550
I've been a Debian unstable tester for quite some time. Agreed, I often  
encounter bugs, but they got fixed very soon, sometimes even before I could  
submit a bug report. So when it comes to making a choice between stability  
and latest packages, I'd gladly choose the latter without any hesitation.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-09-26 Thread protonlucifer
What do you mean, that you can make the newer packages work in Trisquel 8, or  
that it has the packages (albeit older versions) that "still work" in the  
same way as the newer ones?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-09-26 Thread calmstorm
IF I am correct, you have to upgrade it the same way as you do on debian or  
devuan.


Change the repos from Flidas to Etiona.

But before you do this, verify from Jxself if I am indeed correct, and if its  
worth it...


I don't want your comp breaking because of me. ;)




Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-09-26 Thread behmen

Do you know how I can get the iso for Trisquel 9?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-09-26 Thread behmen
I believe every package in Trisquel 8 is LTS and they do indeed work, but  
some features are missing. When trying to diagnose something I end up needing  
a newer version, but I don't wholly trust debs even from the official  
websites.


I've seen the Trisquel 9 code page on  
http://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/dists/etiona/

but I have no clue how to derive an iso from here.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-09-26 Thread sigdpsy
I am  using trisquel 9 and I am happy with it. Some packages are missing from  
repos. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel Unstable?

2019-09-25 Thread jason
You can try Trisquel 9 but be careful. Is there something specific you need  
beyond just "newer packages"? Because these packages in Trisquel 8 still  
work.