Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
>I have also tried compiling the source code of some programs by myself and failed miserably (that is a task that I never knew to execute well, I lack experience in that aspect, and I know it is fundamental if I want to become an advanced user). Compiling is important, and pretty easy once you learn it. Although it is a secondary way to install, in my opinion. You better use Synaptic or aptitude. Try compiling only if you really need to compile. Which I doubt, given the work you do.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
Thanks, i feel very welcome right now :D. and Of Course, ive installed Trisquel 8.0, the repositories are very much update, and i think i can wait until the official realize. For now i can back to work and continue learnning. Also i want to try Parabola, but ill better leave it when i get even more experience. Thanks everyone. Aguante el Software Libre!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
Our family is about half and half Devuan (Debian with my personal preference for init)for new and shiny and Trisquel Belenos for stability, which is why I envisioned a dual boot for you, UsernameV. I just flat out need to virtualize because of my innate tendency towards distro promiscuity; I'm not going to cure it at this point, so I'm just managing it like a chronic illness. ;) Some of my Belenos installs are out-of-the-box and others are tweaked so much they are barely even recognizable. One is even my silly attempt to recreate the look and feel of the very first Gnu/Linux distro I fell in love with twelve years ago only with modern software. See what I mean about this community, UsernameV? You're in the right place. Group hugs and all that smarmy stupid interwebz shorthand. ;) /dork
Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
How about Debian Stretch? Very stable and quite new \o/
Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
Yes, the MATE ISO is a live image; it boots into the MATE desktop and you can install Parabola from there (you still need to do it manually via the terminal, although there's a text-based helper [which may or may not work well], but you do get the comfort of a whole graphical environment). However, the basic installation doesn't give you the desktop, so you would need to add it and set it up yourself later. I'm a Parabola user and don't understand the internals of my system too well, but I've been able to set it up the way I want, mostly thanks to the great documentation from the respective wikis of Arch and Parabola. I always install a new system on a clean disk; if that wasn't the case, I'd probably be scared also. But as always, keep backups of all data that matters to you! That way you can recover reasonably fast if anything goes wrong. After the manual installation, once you have your basic system configured as you want, maintenance should be fairly simple. I installed GNOME, which took care of many things for me, but crashes too often with the latest updates, so I'm using Openbox now, which works well so far.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
Thank, and yes, some people recomends Parabola too, but even if i can do the text mode installing proces, im scared to do something wrong and fuck all up. Also, does it have a Live try Mode? I like to try every OS before jump into a Hard Disk Installation. Anyway, im already downloading the Parabola Mate Iso image too, i will see wich one is the best for me.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
You're right about the importance of signed files. You're right about a lot of things usually. I can't remember for sure but I have the impression they had signatures available but not immediately obvious where. They were somewhere behind a separate link. Now they have moved to all-https and provide detailed information how to check the integrity of downloaded files. I think they are more secure and have learned something now that they took a hit.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
Yeah, that's what I meant. I don't know if this has changed since then, but the checksums they provided at the time were just MD5sums. These are not protective against deliberate changes, only accidental errors. In any case, checksums don't protect against attacks like this. If you have control of the Web page, you can just replace the original sum with the sum of the malicious download. Only a signature (e.g. GnuPG) can actually protect against it.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
There was nothing wrong with the ISO's that the Mint Team provided. They even had checksums available. What happened was their server got hacked and legitimate download mirrors were pointed to a malicious server in Romania or Bulgaria.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
There was an integrity problem with the ISOs on the Mint website. That was one-time, I think, and it could happen to anyone really. The only place where the Mint team dropped the ball was that they failed to sign the ISOs so that people could verify them. Not that most people would do so anyway. Of course, the Mint team also recommends sticking to unsupported software if it seems to work with you, which is dangerous since you end up living with a whole bunch of security holes. But that by itself doesn't make Mint insecure. I do know that Mint tends to pull most updates directly from Ubuntu, so a given Mint release ought to be as secure as the associated Ubuntu release as long as the Mint team doesn't add their own security vulnerabilities.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
Ive never expected the Web admin to reply me. So random i think xd Thank you for your reply, and your support.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
OH WAIT, i have a 16gb flash usb too. i could install and test Fildas there.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
That's a possibillity, but i have a lot of files and important info in that partition and no external hardware where to support it. My current Belenos partition is a smaller one (Around 80 gb). No Windows anywhere.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
That would also give UsernameV a quick and easy way to contribute to the community in addition to (not instead of) video editing, since s/he could help with the bug reports and finetuning and get Flidas ready that much sooner for those of us who need LTS releases. It sounds like a win-win all around to me unless I'm missing something.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
Hi, im already downloading the Trisquel 8.0 image to test it (and maybe install it). And yes, im interested in testing beta or alfa images (if it have live usb try option), but im not an advanced user and i still have a low programming level, so i dont think i could make a significant contribution beyond a benchmark test, user experience test, or even an english/spanish translation (im native spanish speaker) (Im expecting for that change soon). Thank you anyway, also Everyone who replies.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
Onpon, IIRC, Mint isn't very secure either, is it? I don't remember the details because they weren't important to me at the time. I've never liked Mint so I wouldn't suggest it to anyone or agree to provide free or low cost tech support for it. UserV, I'm drooling over that Mint partition and picturing a dual boot of Belenos and Flidas so you could have the best of both worlds. But that's just me and I defer to those with more expertise and fewer children. ;)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
I would not recommend using Mint. Its repo jumbles together libre and proprietary software; it's pretty much impossible to know without manual investigation whether a program is libre or not. And much of the proprietary software is included by default.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
Jason, I was wondering if he could install just the software he needs from a PPA; do you know? That would be the easiest possible solution but I'm no expert. UsernameV, I apologize in advance if I am talking down to you or over your head because I am also an "Average Joe" who aspires to be more than a user and gets a lot of help from the "big kids" here, but would you be interested in testing a beta or even alpha image? I just have it on a virtual machine and haven't had time to have much of an opinion about whether it would be a possibility for you but I know that some people do use it on physical hardware already and speak highly of it. If I'm way off base, I trust someone to correct me shortly. Welcome to Trisquel.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrade Trisquel? Remove Non-Free Software in Linux-Mint?
"I just wonder if it will work on Linux Mint" GNU/Linux Mint has been based on Debian and Ubuntu at different times. I made sure to put on my web page for Linux-libre that "It's known to be compatible with Trisquel, gNewSense, Debian, Ubuntu, Devuan and their respective derivatives." Those last 4 words are important. :) If you install Linux-libre on GNU/Linux Mint you'll have a free kernel. That's it. Because my kernel repository only provides the kernel and nothing else. The rest of what you get get from GNU/Linux Mint may or not be free - you'll need to take the time and audit everything to find out what is or not not free and in truth it'll probably be a mix where some things need editing in order to be. Of course you could take that time but if you'd rather not there are distros that are already free to begin with. If this is not new enough for you maybe Parabola would be but be forewarned it's for advanced users. It may also be interesting to read this: https://wiki.parabola.nu/Rolling_vs._LTS The whole things is good but I'm thinking from where it starts with: "You will often hear people disrespecting LTS distros with words such as: 'out-dated' or even 'ancient'..." It has some good words to share there. Trisquel is specifically an LTS distro.
