Re: [Trisquel-users] X200s: Libreboot with Linux-libre payload?

2015-02-21 Thread tomlukeywood

i found this page on the coreboot wiki:
http://www.coreboot.org/Payloads

coreboot is just libreboot but with non-free blobs
so as long as you make sure your not installing non-free
software the info on here is relevant to libreboot


Re: [Trisquel-users] X200s: Libreboot with Linux-libre payload?

2015-02-21 Thread tomlukeywood

i found this page on the coreboot wiki:
http://www.coreboot.org/Payloads

coreboot is just libreboot but with non-free blobs
so as long as you make sure your not installing non-free
software the info on here is relevant to libreboot


Re: [Trisquel-users] X200s: Libreboot with Linux-libre payload?

2015-02-20 Thread c5000d

Please don't turn this technical thread into a political discussion.

Again, i am looking for the fastest way to boot trisquel. Should i load the  
kernel from flash or can i optimize the grub2 config? Is there some kind of  
log for the errors that occur on booting? 


Re: [Trisquel-users] X200s: Libreboot with Linux-libre payload?

2015-02-20 Thread maestro
Just wanted to say that one should learn how to read before posting nonsense  
(casey)


http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/product_security/superfish?cid=ww:social:148321261:148321259:TWITTER:lenovo:*%20Customer%20Service%20and%20SupportlinkId=12461872

Thinkpad was never affected by superfish


Re: [Trisquel-users] X200s: Libreboot with Linux-libre payload?

2015-02-20 Thread Casey Parker
Thanks for that, maestro.

On Fri Feb 20 2015 at 4:59:48 PM maes...@openmailbox.org wrote:

 Just wanted to say that one should learn how to read before posting
 nonsense
 (casey)

 http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/product_security/superfish?
 cid=ww:social:148321261:148321259:TWITTER:lenovo:*%
 20Customer%20Service%20and%20SupportlinkId=12461872

 Thinkpad was never affected by superfish



Re: [Trisquel-users] X200s: Libreboot with Linux-libre payload?

2015-02-19 Thread maestro
So you bought a x200 on ebay or whatever and you managed to flash libreboot  
in it all by yourself?
If that is the case could you be so gentle as to post a guide that explains  
the process of flashing the bjatch?

Also how much money did you spend for your x200?
thx


Re: [Trisquel-users] X200s: Libreboot with Linux-libre payload?

2015-02-19 Thread c5000d
I bought this demo-pool Thinkpad in 2009 for ~1000€ and a few weeks ago i  
noticed that the libreboot project supports this model. Since i lost the  
supervisor password i wanted to replace the bios anyway.


To replace the stock rom with libreboot, external flashing is necessary.
There are good tutorials on coreboot and libreboot for the x200s:  
https://www.coreboot.org/Board:lenovo/x200

http://libreboot.org/docs/install/x200_external.html

Compared to the X200, the external flashing for the x200s and the tablet is  
pretty nasty. The x200 has a SOIC-8 or SOIC-16 flash chip placed under the  
palm rest and can be accessed by the pomona 5252 clip. The flash chip used  
for the x200s has a WSON package, that can only be accessed by soldering thin  
wires to the chip. You need a narrow soldering iron and some patience to get  
it done right.
Additionally, the chip is mounted on the bottom layer of the mainboard, so  
you have to dismount the whole mainboard first. I used a buspirate and an  
external 3.3 V power supply to flash the chip. Due to the long wires, the  
chip was only detected for a low clock rate of 30 kHz. I used the libreboot  
x200_8mb.rom and updated the MAC-address before flashing. Since the reading  
of the ROM took about an hour, i left the setup flashing for 3 hours and it  
worked on first try. Finally, i removed the wires and reassembled the Laptop  
and powered it up. With the libreboot rom, internal flashing is possible,  
which is much faster and very easy.


So if you want to buy a x200, stay away from the s- and tablet versions and  
take a look at the compatibility list first:

http://libreboot.org/docs/hcl/x200.html

The actual Grub2 payload shows a lot of errors when loading the kernel and i  
dont know if i have to adjust the grub.cfg to speed it up.










Re: [Trisquel-users] X200s: Libreboot with Linux-libre payload?

2015-02-19 Thread Casey Parker
With the recent Lenovo revelations, does a Thinkpad even make sense anymore?

On Thu Feb 19 2015 at 2:14:48 PM c50...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I bought this demo-pool Thinkpad in 2009 for ~1000€ and a few weeks ago i
 noticed that the libreboot project supports this model. Since i lost the
 supervisor password i wanted to replace the bios anyway.

 To replace the stock rom with libreboot, external flashing is necessary.
 There are good tutorials on coreboot and libreboot for the x200s:
 https://www.coreboot.org/Board:lenovo/x200
 http://libreboot.org/docs/install/x200_external.html

 Compared to the X200, the external flashing for the x200s and the tablet is
 pretty nasty. The x200 has a SOIC-8 or SOIC-16 flash chip placed under the
 palm rest and can be accessed by the pomona 5252 clip. The flash chip used
 for the x200s has a WSON package, that can only be accessed by soldering
 thin
 wires to the chip. You need a narrow soldering iron and some patience to
 get
 it done right.
 Additionally, the chip is mounted on the bottom layer of the mainboard, so
 you have to dismount the whole mainboard first. I used a buspirate and an
 external 3.3 V power supply to flash the chip. Due to the long wires, the
 chip was only detected for a low clock rate of 30 kHz. I used the libreboot
 x200_8mb.rom and updated the MAC-address before flashing. Since the reading
 of the ROM took about an hour, i left the setup flashing for 3 hours and it
 worked on first try. Finally, i removed the wires and reassembled the
 Laptop
 and powered it up. With the libreboot rom, internal flashing is possible,
 which is much faster and very easy.

 So if you want to buy a x200, stay away from the s- and tablet versions and
 take a look at the compatibility list first:
 http://libreboot.org/docs/hcl/x200.html

 The actual Grub2 payload shows a lot of errors when loading the kernel and
 i
 dont know if i have to adjust the grub.cfg to speed it up.










Re: [Trisquel-users] X200s: Libreboot with Linux-libre payload?

2015-02-19 Thread Casey Parker
Shouldn't we be pushing much harder and pouring more effort into the free
software/hardware community, rather than buying from lenovo? I mean, it's
fine by me, it just doesn't seem like much of a solution.

On Thu Feb 19 2015 at 5:19:49 PM c50...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I don't think that pre-installed windows software is a relevant threat for
 the users of this forum. You cant trust the manufacturer anyway so
 replacing
 the software and the bios is important. If you want coreboot support, there
 only a few alternatives to (used) thinkpads. They are also easy to repair
 and
 the case is very reliable.



Re: [Trisquel-users] X200s: Libreboot with Linux-libre payload?

2015-02-19 Thread c5000d
I don't think that pre-installed windows software is a relevant threat for  
the users of this forum. You cant trust the manufacturer anyway so replacing  
the software and the bios is important. If you want coreboot support, there  
only a few alternatives to (used) thinkpads. They are also easy to repair and  
the case is very reliable.