Re: [TruthTalk] [Bulk] Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-05 Thread Lance Muir
CPL suggests that 'people with discernment also know WHY they discern the
things they do'. To some extent, IMO, this is illustrative of a genuine
logical dilemma. It has to do with apprehension and articulation. Also, IMO,
such apprehension is available to all of humankind. Sometimes things
(realities) are 'just known'. Again, sometimes this knowing comes over time
via tutelage, mentoring, discipling or apprenticeship. Occasionally life
itself 'teaches' those who are of a mind to learn. This is why the
generalization 'few have ought of substance to say before the age of
40).Before this becomes even more boring, I'll just conclude by saying that
'we all know more than we can say'.


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 Lance, I cannot disagree that Gary MAY have the gift of discernment.
 However, people with discernment also know WHY they discern the things
they
 do.

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 Gary might have the gift of discernment, Charles. If this is the case
then,
 simply 'discerning' (though he didn't, as you seem to suggest infer David
 was a false prophet, IMO) is sufficient.
 
 Why not let David take care of this privately?
 
 
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   Gary, To call someone's comments a myth (even without any evidence)
   expresses your unsupported opinion. But, your parenthetical comment
 equates
   David to a false prophet. Rather than level such an ad hominem attack,
   please provide exidence to support your claim or retract it.
  
   Perry the moderator
  
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   myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense for manipulative
   personal reasons or as does the author, below)
   
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   writes:
..Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do.
  
  
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Re: [TruthTalk] [Bulk] Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-04 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Gary, To call someone's comments a myth (even without any evidence) 
expresses your unsupported opinion. But, your parenthetical comment equates 
David to a false prophet. Rather than level such an ad hominem attack, 
please provide exidence to support your claim or retract it.


Perry the moderator


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myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense for manipulative
personal reasons or as does the author, below)

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:09:38 -0400 David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
..Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do.



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Re: [TruthTalk] [Bulk] Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-04 Thread Lance Muir
Gary might have the gift of discernment, Charles. If this is the case then,
simply 'discerning' (though he didn't, as you seem to suggest infer David
was a false prophet, IMO) is sufficient.

Why not let David take care of this privately?


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 Gary, To call someone's comments a myth (even without any evidence)
 expresses your unsupported opinion. But, your parenthetical comment
equates
 David to a false prophet. Rather than level such an ad hominem attack,
 please provide exidence to support your claim or retract it.

 Perry the moderator

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 myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense for manipulative
 personal reasons or as does the author, below)
 
 On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:09:38 -0400 David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:
  ..Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do.


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Re: [TruthTalk] [Bulk] Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-04 Thread knpraise

Youknow , Perry, if you are going to get serious with this -- what about "liar" and Deegan. Or just about ANYTHING Izzy says to anyone on the "left? You strike me as being fair minded -- but you areheaded across the line -- big time. As far as David being a false prophet -- tons of evidence on that , Perry. Does not mean that he IS a false prophet -- but it does mean that Gary's opinion is not unsupported. 

JD-Original Message-From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 08:32:04 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] [Bulk] Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: NIV Bible Quiz


Gary, To call someone's comments a "myth" (even without any evidence) expresses your unsupported opinion. But, your parenthetical comment equates David to a false prophet. Rather than level such an ad hominem attack, please provide exidence to support your claim or retract it.Perry the moderatorFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible QuizDate: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:51:16 -0600myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense for manipulativepersonal reasons or as does the author, below)On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:09:38 -0400 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]writes: ..Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do.--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.


Re: [TruthTalk] [Bulk] Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-04 Thread Lance Muir



Ah at last! A level headed opinion. Whewww, 
thought I was being left without a 'supporter' (a nod's as good as a 
wink)

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  Youknow , Perry, if you are going to get serious with 
  this -- what about "liar" and Deegan. Or just about ANYTHING 
  Izzy says to anyone on the "left? You strike me as being fair 
  minded -- but you areheaded across the line -- big 
  time. As far as David being a false prophet -- tons of 
  evidence on that , Perry. Does not mean that he IS a false prophet 
  -- but it does mean that Gary's opinion is not unsupported. 
  
  JD-Original Message-From: Charles Perry 
  Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: 
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  Commant: was: Re: NIV Bible Quiz
  

  Gary, To call someone's 
  comments a "myth" (even without any evidence) expresses your unsupported 
  opinion. But, your parenthetical comment equates David to a false prophet. 
  Rather than level such an ad hominem attack, please provide exidence to 
  support your claim or retract it.Perry the 
  moderatorFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: 
  TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgTo: 
  TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: 
  Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible QuizDate: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 
  21:51:16 -0600myth (false prophets speak of JC in 
  the past tense for manipulativepersonal reasons or as does the 
  author, below)On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:09:38 -0400 
  "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]writes: 
  ..Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we 
  do.--"Let your speech be always with 
  grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every 
  man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not 
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RE: [TruthTalk] [Bulk] Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-04 Thread ShieldsFamily








JD, if you are going to falsely accuse me
of ad hom attacks please provide the quotes. Izzy











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Youknow , Perry, if you are going to get
serious with this -- what about liar and Deegan.
Or just about ANYTHING Izzy says to anyone on the left? You
strike me as being fair minded -- but you areheaded across the line
-- big time. As far as David being a false prophet
-- tons of evidence on that , Perry. Does not mean that he IS a
false prophet -- but it does mean that Gary's opinion is not
unsupported. 











JD




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Gary, To call someone's comments a myth (even without any
evidence) expresses your unsupported opinion. But, your parenthetical comment
equates David to a false prophet. Rather than level such an ad hominem attack,
please provide exidence to support your claim or retract it.

Perry the moderator

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Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:51:16 -0600

myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense for manipulative
personal reasons or as does the author, below)

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:09:38 -0400 David
 Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 ..Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do.

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Re: [TruthTalk] [Bulk] Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-04 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Lance, I cannot disagree that Gary MAY have the gift of discernment. 
However, people with discernment also know WHY they discern the things they 
do.



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Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:41:46 -0400

Gary might have the gift of discernment, Charles. If this is the case then,
simply 'discerning' (though he didn't, as you seem to suggest infer David
was a false prophet, IMO) is sufficient.

Why not let David take care of this privately?


- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] [Bulk] Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: NIV Bible Quiz


 Gary, To call someone's comments a myth (even without any evidence)
 expresses your unsupported opinion. But, your parenthetical comment
equates
 David to a false prophet. Rather than level such an ad hominem attack,
 please provide exidence to support your claim or retract it.

 Perry the moderator

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 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:51:16 -0600
 
 myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense for manipulative
 personal reasons or as does the author, below)
 
 On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:09:38 -0400 David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:
  ..Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do.


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Re: [TruthTalk] [Bulk] Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
To quote Lance:
"Why?"Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gary might have the gift of discernment, Charles. If this is the case then,simply 'discerning' (though he didn't, as you seem to suggest infer Davidwas a false prophet, IMO) is sufficient.Why not let David take care of this privately?- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG>Sent: June 04, 2005 11:32Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] [Bulk] Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: NIV Bible Quiz Gary, To call someone's comments a "myth" (even without any evidence) expresses your unsupported opinion. But, your parenthetical commentequates David to a false prophet. Rather than level such an ad hominem attack, please provide exidence to support your claim or retract it. Perry the moderator From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:51:16 -0600  myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense for manipulative personal reasons or as does the author, below)  On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:09:38 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:  ..Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail
 to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: [TruthTalk] [Bulk] Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-04 Thread Kevin Deegan
I called you a Liar when I caught you in a lie, Ipresented the supporting statements, at that time.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Youknow , Perry, if you are going to get serious with this -- what about "liar" and Deegan. Or just about ANYTHING Izzy says to anyone on the "left? You strike me as being fair minded -- but you areheaded across the line -- big time. As far as David being a false prophet -- tons of evidence on that , Perry. Does not mean that he IS a false prophet -- but it does mean that Gary's opinion is not unsupported. 

JD-Original Message-From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 08:32:04 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] [Bulk] Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: NIV Bible Quiz


Gary, To call someone's comments a "myth" (even without any evidence) expresses your unsupported opinion. But, your parenthetical comment equates David to a false prophet. Rather than level such an ad hominem attack, please provide exidence to support your claim or retract it.Perry the moderatorFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible QuizDate: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:51:16 -0600myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense for manipulativepersonal reasons or as does the author, below)On Fri, 3 Jun 2005
 20:09:38 -0400 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]writes: ..Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do.--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.__Do You
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Re: [TruthTalk] [Bulk] Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-04 Thread knpraise

Not even close.

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I called you a Liar when I caught you in a lie, Ipresented the supporting statements, at that time.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 



Youknow , Perry, if you are going to get serious with this -- what about "liar" and Deegan. Or just about ANYTHING Izzy says to anyone on the "left? You strike me as being fair minded -- but you areheaded across the line -- big time. As far as David being a false prophet -- tons of evidence on that , Perry. Does not mean that he IS a false prophet -- but it does mean that Gary's opinion is not unsupported. 

JD-Original Message-From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sat, 04 Jun 2005 08:32:04 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] [Bulk] Rmoderator Commant: was: Re: NIV Bible Quiz


Gary, To call someone's comments a "myth" (even without any evidence) expresses your unsupported opinion. But, your parenthetical comment equates David to a false prophet. Rather than level such an ad hominem attack, please provide exidence to support your claim or retract it.Perry the moderatorFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible QuizDate: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 21:51:16 -0600myth (false prophets speak of JC in the past tense for manipulativepersonal reasons or as does the author, below)
On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 20:09:38 -0400 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]writes: ..Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do.--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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