Re: [TruthTalk] Inverted Stars on LDS Temples
The inverted pentagram is the UNIVERSAL sign for Satan The Inverted pentagran with the elogated bottom point is to symbolize the Fall of Satan All this changes of courseif it is on the Temple, because it must be so.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blainerb: The following sites furnish the truth about Inverted stars on LDS Temples and what they mean:http://www.fairlds.org/pubs/Stars.pdfhttp://www.lightplanet.com/response/answers/pentagrams.htmKevin, we will be awaiting your comments once your perfidy is uncovered. Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
Re: [TruthTalk] Inverted stars on LDS Temples
Does the temple display Satanic stars? On has only to use the eyes God gave him, or he can shut his eyes and avoid the obvious 666Who else OTHER than Satanists use these Inverted Stars? The following does not answer anything just again says, well it is not Stanic cause we say so. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:One-Minute Answers by Stephen R. GibsonContents of One-Minute Answers Does the Temple Display Pentagrams?Question: Doesn't the Salt Lake Temple display satanic pentagrams on its exterior walls? The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is viewed by some extremists among its critics to be a satanic cult. Those who view the Church in this light think they have discovered pentagrams on the Salt Lake Temple's exterior which they conclude are of the occult, and therefore, satanic in origin. Pentagrams are, by definition, any five-pointed, star-shaped figure. It is no secret that there are five-pointed stars on the outside walls of the Salt Lake Temple; they are there for all to see and admire. However, only those with a jaundiced eye to Mormonism would declare such symbols to be pagan and occult upon viewing them in person. James E. Talmage gives this description of these star stones: There are in the walls several series of stones of emblematical design and significance, such as those representing the earth, moon, sun, and stars, and in addition are cloud stones, and stones bearing inscriptions Star-Stones are numerous; each bears in relief the figure of a five-pointed star. On the east center-tower immediately below the battlements are sixteen of these, four on each face, and on each of the east comer towers are twelve such stones, making forty on these towers alone. The Keystones of the doorways and those of the window arches belong to this class, each bearing a single star. Star-Stones of another kind appear on the face of the center tower at the west. Here, above the highest window and extending to the base of the battlement course, are seen the seven stars of the northern constellation Ursa Major or Great Bear, otherwise known as the Dipper. The group is so placed that the two stars called Pointers are practically in line with the North Star itself (The House of the Lord, pp. 148-50). Five-sided stars have occasionally been used by Church members in various artistic expressions since the time of Joseph Smith. Some have noted their connection with Church newspapers, Nauvoo legion uniforms, with the concept of deseret, and with the genealogical society of the Church. These stars, for the most part, have been pentagrams only in the sense that they are five-sided stars. Extremist critics, however, lead unwitting readers to untrue assumptions. They first explain that inverted stars are known as "goat heads" and depict a goat's head within a star that has two points facing up, and then say that the stars on the temple also have two points facing up. What they do not mention is that the five-sided stars can be found placed at various angles, only occasionally having two points up. There are no goat's heads carved on these temple stars. Mormonism is vehemently opposed to anything satanic, and critics' allegations are therefore a distortion of the Church's position. No one argues that a certain type of pentagram is significant to members of the occult. But to imply that any use of any five-sided star constitutes allegiance to Satan flies in the face of reason. Numerous secular organizations, not least among them the Boy Scouts of America and the U.S. Government, have utilized five-pointed stars as part of their symbolism. Does that make them satanic as well? Are Americans who salute the flag and its fifty pentagrams unwittingly pledging their allegiance to Satan? Of course not. For most of today's Church members, the stars on the Salt Lake Temple are mainly decorative nuances around the windows and cornices of the temple. That some of them happen to be pointing downward has no significance other than to add variety to the arrangement. Among today's Church members there are those who interpret the stars as representing light and knowledge. Others see them as referring to the Telestial Kingdom. No other temple is similarly decorated. In his own time, Jesus also had to contend with those who allege his ministry was inspired and directed by Satan: "But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils" (Matt. 12:24). Perhaps Jesus' response to this allegation is applicable for today's critics of his temple: Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand? (Matt. 12:25-26)It is no secret that the LDS Church is opposed to Satan and his plan to enslave mankind. Why then, on the exterior of
Re: [TruthTalk] Inverted stars on LDS Temples
Is this sign actually located somewhere on or in the Mormon temple? I would like an honest answer from someone who has been there and seen it. Terry Kevin Deegan wrote: Does the temple display Satanic stars? On has only to use the eyes God gave him, or he can shut his eyes and avoid the obvious 666
Re: [TruthTalk] Inverted stars on LDS Temples
DAVEH: I have not seen it, Terry. Nor have I even heard of it until now. Terry Clifton wrote: Is this sign actually located somewhere on or in the Mormon temple? I would like an honest answer from someone who has been there and seen it. Terry Kevin Deegan wrote: Does the temple display Satanic stars? On has only to use the eyes God gave him, or he can shut his eyes and avoid the obvious 666 -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.
Re: [TruthTalk] Inverted stars on LDS Temples
The Temple in nauvoo was given by REVELATION: According to the story recounted in History of the Church, Vol. 6, pp. 196-197, Joseph Smith told the architect of the Nauvoo temple, "I wish you to carry out my [italics in the original text] designs. I have seen in vision the splendid appearance of the building illuminated, and will have it built according to the pattern shown me." The one below is just for comparison to the actual pentagrams that are onAND AROUND the temple. http://www.hismin.com/page3.html http://www.hismin.com/occultsymbols.htmlhttp://www.greaterthings.com/OpenForum/5_pointed_star_Nauvoo_Temple/ The up-side-down five-pointed star is to Satanists what the Cross is to Christians. Why is this symbol being used in the LDS temple? With all things having both a positive and negative manifestation, is this an instance of opposite contrast? The answer is found in the heart of each person as well as each organization generally that uses the symbol.http://www.ldshistory.net/1904/tempgeog.htmThe Temple in Salt Lake City, contains many of these ancient symbols, both inside and out, which portray many fundamental principles when properly understood. On the west wall we find the designs of the Big Dipper, which unfailingly points out the North Star, and serves as a guide to the traveler across the unchartered wilderness. So likewise does this symbol on our Temple tell the initiate, that herein he will find an unfailing guide, as he or she travels the journey of life, which will safely guide us back to our Father's presence. Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this sign actually located somewhere on or in the Mormon temple? I would like an honest answer from someone who has been there and seen it.TerryKevin Deegan wrote: Does the temple display Satanic stars? On has only to use the eyes God gave him, or he can shut his eyes and avoid the obvious 666 Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
Re: [TruthTalk] Inverted Stars on LDS Temples
In a message dated 12/13/2005 5:08:57 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The inverted pentagram is the UNIVERSAL sign for Satan The Inverted pentagran with the elogated bottom point is to symbolize the Fall of Satan All this changes of courseif it is on the Temple, because it must be so. Blainerb: I guess it changes too, when used on the Congressional Medal of Honor, huh? Or on the great seal of the City of Jerusalem. Or on the American Great Star flag of 1837--1845. Guess it sort of changes anytime someone uses it for good purposes, huh? Or do you suppose they secretly intended to communicate with witches, warlocks, etc? by Steven M. Schroeder, 18 November 2000 Great Star Design (1837) - As depicted in the postage stamp, it consists of 13 stripes, blue canton with 26 5-pointed stars arranged: with one very large star in center, 5 smaller stars in each angle of center star, 5 smaller stars between each of the previous 5, and 3 yet smaller stars at each ordinal point, giving impression of a large star pointing down.Steven M. Schroeder, 18 November 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blainerb: The following sites furnish the truth about Inverted stars on LDS Temples and what they mean: http://www.fairlds.org/pubs/Stars.pdf http://www.lightplanet.com/response/answers/pentagrams.htm Kevin, we will be awaiting your comments once your perfidy is uncovered.
Re: [TruthTalk] Inverted Stars on LDS Temples
Stop avoiding please tell us why it is on the Temple Why use the sure sign of the NAIL? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/13/2005 5:08:57 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:The inverted pentagram is the UNIVERSAL sign for Satan The Inverted pentagran with the elogated bottom point is to symbolize the Fall of Satan All this changes of courseif it is on the Temple, because it must be so.Blainerb: I guess it changes too, when used on the Congressional Medal of Honor, huh? Or on the great seal of the City of Jerusalem. Or on the American Great Star flag of 1837--1845. Guess it sort of changes anytime someone uses it for good purposes, huh? Or do you suppose they secretly intended to communicate with witches, warlocks, etc? by Steven M. Schroeder, 18 November 2000 Great Star Design (1837) - As depicted in the postage stamp, it consists of 13 stripes, blue canton with 26 5-pointed stars arranged: with one very large star in center, 5 smaller stars in each angle of center star, 5 smaller stars between each of the previous 5, and 3 yet smaller stars at each ordinal point, giving impression of a large star pointing down.Steven M. Schroeder, 18 November 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blainerb: The following sites furnish the truth about Inverted stars on LDS Temples and what they mean:http://www.fairlds.org/pubs/Stars.pdfhttp://www.lightplanet.com/response/answers/pentagrams.htmKevin, we will be awaiting your comments once your perfidy is uncovered. Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
Re: [TruthTalk] Inverted stars on LDS Temples
Blainerb: I don't have the slightest idea where Kevin got the photo. It appears to be old andpretty well-worked over--I have never seen it or one like it before...Kevin? In a message dated 12/13/2005 7:11:19 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is this sign actually located somewhere on or in the Mormon temple? I would like an honest answer from someone who has been there and seen it.TerryKevin Deegan wrote: Does the temple display Satanic stars? On has only to use the eyes God gave him, or he can shut his eyes and avoid the obvious 666
[TruthTalk] Inverted Stars on LDS Temples
Blainerb: The following sites furnish the truth about Inverted stars on LDS Temples and what they mean: http://www.fairlds.org/pubs/Stars.pdf http://www.lightplanet.com/response/answers/pentagrams.htm Kevin, we will be awaiting your comments once your perfidy is uncovered.
[TruthTalk] Inverted stars on LDS Temples
One-Minute Answers by Stephen R. GibsonContents of One-Minute Answers Does the Temple Display Pentagrams?Question: Doesn't the Salt Lake Temple display satanic pentagrams on its exterior walls? The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is viewed by some extremists among its critics to be a satanic cult. Those who view the Church in this light think they have discovered pentagrams on the Salt Lake Temple's exterior which they conclude are of the occult, and therefore, satanic in origin. Pentagrams are, by definition, any five-pointed, star-shaped figure. It is no secret that there are five-pointed stars on the outside walls of the Salt Lake Temple; they are there for all to see and admire. However, only those with a jaundiced eye to Mormonism would declare such symbols to be pagan and occult upon viewing them in person. James E. Talmage gives this description of these star stones: There are in the walls several series of stones of emblematical design and significance, such as those representing the earth, moon, sun, and stars, and in addition are cloud stones, and stones bearing inscriptions Star-Stones are numerous; each bears in relief the figure of a five-pointed star. On the east center-tower immediately below the battlements are sixteen of these, four on each face, and on each of the east comer towers are twelve such stones, making forty on these towers alone. The Keystones of the doorways and those of the window arches belong to this class, each bearing a single star. Star-Stones of another kind appear on the face of the center tower at the west. Here, above the highest window and extending to the base of the battlement course, are seen the seven stars of the northern constellation Ursa Major or Great Bear, otherwise known as the Dipper. The group is so placed that the two stars called Pointers are practically in line with the North Star itself (The House of the Lord, pp. 148-50). Five-sided stars have occasionally been used by Church members in various artistic expressions since the time of Joseph Smith. Some have noted their connection with Church newspapers, Nauvoo legion uniforms, with the concept of deseret, and with the genealogical society of the Church. These stars, for the most part, have been pentagrams only in the sense that they are five-sided stars. Extremist critics, however, lead unwitting readers to untrue assumptions. They first explain that inverted stars are known as "goat heads" and depict a goat's head within a star that has two points facing up, and then say that the stars on the temple also have two points facing up. What they do not mention is that the five-sided stars can be found placed at various angles, only occasionally having two points up. There are no goat's heads carved on these temple stars. Mormonism is vehemently opposed to anything satanic, and critics' allegations are therefore a distortion of the Church's position. No one argues that a certain type of pentagram is significant to members of the occult. But to imply that any use of any five-sided star constitutes allegiance to Satan flies in the face of reason. Numerous secular organizations, not least among them the Boy Scouts of America and the U.S. Government, have utilized five-pointed stars as part of their symbolism. Does that make them satanic as well? Are Americans who salute the flag and its fifty pentagrams unwittingly pledging their allegiance to Satan? Of course not. For most of today's Church members, the stars on the Salt Lake Temple are mainly decorative nuances around the windows and cornices of the temple. That some of them happen to be pointing downward has no significance other than to add variety to the arrangement. Among today's Church members there are those who interpret the stars as representing light and knowledge. Others see them as referring to the Telestial Kingdom. No other temple is similarly decorated. In his own time, Jesus also had to contend with those who allege his ministry was inspired and directed by Satan: "But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils" (Matt. 12:24). Perhaps Jesus' response to this allegation is applicable for today's critics of his temple: Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand? (Matt. 12:25-26)It is no secret that the LDS Church is opposed to Satan and his plan to enslave mankind. Why then, on the exterior of their temple, would they place symbols promoting this enslavement? The clear answer is that they did not do so. This allegation by extremist anti-Mormon critics is clearly without factual basis, and it typifies their penchant for maliciously attempting to portray the Church in
