RE: [TruthTalk] Question for Lance

2005-12-21 Thread ShieldsFamily








Rev 19: 4Then I saw (H)thrones,
and (I)they
sat on them, and (J)judgment
was given to them And I saw (K)the
souls of those who had been beheaded because of their (L)testimony
of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not (M)worshiped
the beast or his image, and had not received the (N)mark
on their forehead and on their hand; and they (O)came
to life and (P)reigned
with Christ for a thousand years. 5The rest
of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. (Q)This
is the first resurrection. 6(R)Blessed
and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the (S)second
death has no power, but they will be (T)priests
of God and of Christ and will (U)reign
with Him for a thousand years. 7When the
thousand years are completed, Satan will be (V)released
from his prison,

Again,
Lance knows better than Scripture. izzy









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005
5:03 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Question
for Lance







There is NO MILLENIUM! We are where HEAVENwill
be. 







- Original Message - 





From: ShieldsFamily






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: December 19, 2005
23:24





Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
Question for Lance









If the earth was so great it
wouldnt need redeeming, now would it? Until the Millenium, its
nothing to write home about. Kind of like alphabet soup; some good stuff,
mostly losers. As my husband often says, We arent in heaven
yet. iz











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005
9:34 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Question
for Lance







You are a tripartate who has a disdain for things of the
earth which by extension indicates that you do not apprehend the significance
of the Incarnation and the humanity of Jesus.







- Original Message - 





From: Judy Taylor






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: December 19, 2005
10:27





Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Question for Lance











You didn't answer my question





I am not asking Gary, John, or Bill





You say it below - I want to know what
you mean. judyt











On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:17:16 -0500 Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:







Where does the dualism come from, you ask? Ask Judy where it
comes from. I notice it, Gary
identifies it, so do John and Bill. OOOPS! You wanna make this just about me,
doncha?











When I speak well of you Judy, I truly mean it! It's you who
keeps on addressing the rest of us minions from your infallible perch. 













From: Judy Taylor












Your response to the narrow path and the
strait gate is as follows - why?





Where does the dualism come from?











A the good old dualistic
narrow path!







judyt

He that says I know Him and doesn't keep His Commandments

is a liar (1 John 2:4)















judyt

He that says I know Him and doesn't keep His Commandments

is a liar (1 John 2:4)












Re: [TruthTalk] Question for Lance

2005-12-20 Thread Lance Muir



There is NO MILLENIUM! We are where 
HEAVENwill be. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  ShieldsFamily 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: December 19, 2005 23:24
  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Question for 
  Lance
  
  
  If the earth was so 
  great it wouldn’t need redeeming, now would it? Until the Millenium, it’s 
  nothing to write home about. Kind of like alphabet soup; some good stuff, 
  mostly losers. As my husband often says, “We aren’t in heaven yet.” 
  iz
  
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:34 
  AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Question for 
  Lance
  
  
  You are a tripartate who has a 
  disdain for things of the earth which by extension indicates that you do not 
  apprehend the significance of the Incarnation and the humanity of 
  Jesus.
  

- Original Message - 


From: Judy 
Taylor 

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 


Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 


Sent: 
December 19, 2005 10:27

Subject: Re: 
[TruthTalk] Question for Lance



You didn't answer my 
question

I am not asking Gary, John, or 
Bill

You say it below - I want to know 
what you mean. judyt



On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:17:16 -0500 "Lance Muir" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  Where does the dualism come 
  from, you ask? Ask Judy where it comes from. I notice it, Gary identifies it, 
  so do John and Bill. OOOPS! You wanna make this just about me, 
  doncha?
  
  
  
  When I speak well of you Judy, 
  I truly mean it! It's you who keeps on addressing the rest of us minions 
  from your infallible perch. 
  
  
  

From: Judy 
Taylor 



Your response to 
the narrow path and the strait gate is as follows - 
why?

Where does the 
dualism come from?



A the good old dualistic narrow 
path!

 
judyt 
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His 
Commandments 
is a liar (1 John 
  2:4)
  
  
 
judyt 
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His 
Commandments 
is a liar (1 John 
2:4)


Re: [TruthTalk] Question for Lance

2005-12-20 Thread Terry Clifton




Would you care to expand on that statement?

Lance Muir wrote:

  
  

  
  There is NO MILLENIUM! We are where
HEAVENwill be. 






Re: [TruthTalk] Question for Lance

2005-12-20 Thread Lance Muir



Only slightly, Terry.

The former is, IMO obviously, a 
biblical/theological construction which was a mistake to begin with. It has 
since taken on a life of it's own.

The latter simply means that in the 'end' the 
kingdom will be on earth.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Terry Clifton 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: December 20, 2005 08:57
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Question for 
  Lance
  Would you care to expand on that statement?Lance Muir 
  wrote: 
  



There is NO MILLENIUM! We are where 
HEAVENwill be. 



Re: [TruthTalk] Question for Lance

2005-12-20 Thread Terry Clifton




I agree that there will be a new Heaven and a new earth. How they will
be connected or seperated is beyond me. I would think that I would
quickly tire of walking streets of gold but at the same time, I want to
be where Jesus is.
 When you speak of no millenium, do you mean no thousand year reign?

Lance Muir wrote:

  
  
  
  Only slightly, Terry.
  
  The former is, IMO obviously, a
biblical/theological construction which was a mistake to begin with. It
has since taken on a life of it's own.
  
  The latter simply means that in the
'end' the kingdom will be on earth.
  
-
Original Message - 
From:
Terry Clifton 
To:
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent:
December 20, 2005 08:57
Subject:
Re: [TruthTalk] Question for Lance


Would you care to expand on that statement?

Lance Muir wrote:

  

  
  There is NO MILLENIUM! We are
where HEAVENwill be. 


  






Re: [TruthTalk] Question for Lance

2005-12-20 Thread Lance Muir



Yes, that is what I mean, Terry.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Terry Clifton 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: December 20, 2005 13:53
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Question for 
  Lance
  I agree that there will be a new Heaven and a new earth. 
  How they will be connected or seperated is beyond me. I would think that 
  I would quickly tire of walking streets of gold but at the same time, I want 
  to be where Jesus is. When you speak of no millenium, do you mean no 
  thousand year reign?Lance Muir wrote: 
  

Only slightly, Terry.

The former is, IMO obviously, a 
biblical/theological construction which was a mistake to begin with. It has 
since taken on a life of it's own.

The latter simply means that in the 'end' the 
kingdom will be on earth.

  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Terry Clifton 
  To: 
  TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: 
  December 20, 2005 08:57
  Subject: 
  Re: [TruthTalk] Question for Lance
  Would you care to expand on that statement?Lance 
  Muir wrote: 
  



There is NO MILLENIUM! We are where 
HEAVENwill be. 



Re: [TruthTalk] Question for Lance

2005-12-19 Thread Lance Muir



Where does the dualism come from, you ask? Ask Judy 
where it comes from. I notice it, Gary identifies it, so do John and Bill. 
OOOPS! You wanna make this just about me, doncha?

When I speak well of you Judy, I truly mean it! 
It's you who keeps on addressing the rest of us minions from your infallible 
perch. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Judy 
  Taylor 
  To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: December 19, 2005 10:02
  Subject: [TruthTalk] Question for 
  Lance
  
  
  Your response to the narrow path and the strait gate 
  is as follows - why?
  Where does the dualism come from?
  
  A the good old dualistic 
  narrow path!
   
  judyt 
  He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His 
  Commandments 
  is a liar (1 John 2:4)


Re: [TruthTalk] Question for Lance

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor



You didn't answer my question
I am not asking Gary, John, or Bill
You say it below - I want to know what you mean. 
judyt

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:17:16 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Where does the dualism come from, you ask? Ask 
  Judy where it comes from. I notice it, Gary identifies it, so do John and 
  Bill. OOOPS! You wanna make this just about me, doncha?
  
  When I speak well of you Judy, I truly mean it! 
  It's you who keeps on addressing the rest of us minions from your infallible 
  perch. 
  
  
From: Judy Taylor 

Your response to the narrow path and the strait 
gate is as follows - why?
Where does the dualism come from?

A the good old dualistic 
narrow path!
 
judyt 
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His 
Commandments 
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
   
judyt 
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His 
Commandments 
is a liar (1 John 2:4)


Re: [TruthTalk] Question for Lance

2005-12-19 Thread Lance Muir



You are a tripartate who has a disdain for things 
of the earth which by extension indicates that you do not apprehend the 
significance of the Incarnation and the humanity of Jesus.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Judy 
  Taylor 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: December 19, 2005 10:27
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Question for 
  Lance
  
  You didn't answer my question
  I am not asking Gary, John, or Bill
  You say it below - I want to know what you 
  mean. judyt
  
  On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:17:16 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
  
Where does the dualism come from, you ask? Ask 
Judy where it comes from. I notice it, Gary identifies it, so do John and 
Bill. OOOPS! You wanna make this just about me, doncha?

When I speak well of you Judy, I truly mean it! 
It's you who keeps on addressing the rest of us minions from your infallible 
perch. 


  From: Judy Taylor 
  
  Your response to the narrow path and the strait 
  gate is as follows - why?
  Where does the dualism come from?
  
  A the good old dualistic 
  narrow path!
   
  judyt 
  He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His 
  Commandments 
  is a liar (1 John 2:4)
 
  judyt 
  He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His 
  Commandments 
  is a liar (1 John 2:4)


Re: [TruthTalk] Question for Lance

2005-12-19 Thread Judy Taylor



I don't have disdain for things of the earth at all so 
there is no extension
I believe we are "fearfully and wonderfully made" and 
thank God for every earthly blessing daily
So it's just another straw man - huh!!
Who constructed this one?

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:34:28 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  You are a tripartate who has a disdain for things 
  of the earth which by extension indicates that you do not apprehend the 
  significance of the Incarnation and the humanity of Jesus.
  
From: Judy Taylor 

You didn't answer my question
I am not asking Gary, John, or Bill
You say it below - I want to know what you 
mean. judyt

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:17:16 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Where does the dualism come from, you ask? 
  Ask Judy where it comes from. I notice it, Gary identifies it, so do John 
  and Bill. OOOPS! You wanna make this just about me, doncha?
  
  When I speak well of you Judy, I truly mean 
  it! It's you who keeps on addressing the rest of us minions from your 
  infallible perch. 
  
  
From: Judy 
Taylor 

Your response to the narrow path and the strait 
gate is as follows - why?
Where does the dualism come from?

A the good old 
dualistic narrow path!
 
judyt 
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His 
Commandments 
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
   
judyt 
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His 
Commandments 
is a liar (1 John 2:4)
   
judyt 
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His 
Commandments 
is a liar (1 John 2:4)


Re: [TruthTalk] Question for Lance

2005-12-19 Thread Lance Muir



Me!

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Judy 
  Taylor 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: December 19, 2005 10:37
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Question for 
  Lance
  
  I don't have disdain for things of the earth at all 
  so there is no extension
  I believe we are "fearfully and wonderfully made" and 
  thank God for every earthly blessing daily
  So it's just another straw man - huh!!
  Who constructed this one?
  
  On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:34:28 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
  
You are a tripartate who has a disdain for 
things of the earth which by extension indicates that you do not apprehend 
the significance of the Incarnation and the humanity of Jesus.

  From: Judy Taylor 
  
  You didn't answer my question
  I am not asking Gary, John, or Bill
  You say it below - I want to know what you 
  mean. judyt
  
  On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:17:16 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  
Where does the dualism come from, you ask? 
Ask Judy where it comes from. I notice it, Gary identifies it, so do 
John and Bill. OOOPS! You wanna make this just about me, 
doncha?

When I speak well of you Judy, I truly mean 
it! It's you who keeps on addressing the rest of us minions from your 
infallible perch. 


  From: Judy 
  Taylor 
  
  Your response to the narrow path and the 
  strait gate is as follows - why?
  Where does the dualism come 
from?
  
  A the good old 
  dualistic narrow path!
   
  judyt 
  He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His 
  Commandments 
  is a liar (1 John 2:4)
 
  judyt 
  He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His 
  Commandments 
  is a liar (1 John 2:4)
 
  judyt 
  He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His 
  Commandments 
  is a liar (1 John 2:4)


RE: [TruthTalk] Question for Lance

2005-12-19 Thread ShieldsFamily








If the earth was so great it wouldnt
need redeeming, now would it? Until the Millenium, its nothing to write
home about. Kind of like alphabet soup; some good stuff, mostly losers. As my
husband often says, We arent in heaven yet. iz











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005
9:34 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Question
for Lance







You are a tripartate who has a disdain for things of the
earth which by extension indicates that you do not apprehend the significance
of the Incarnation and the humanity of Jesus.







- Original Message - 





From: Judy Taylor






To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org






Sent: December 19, 2005
10:27





Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Question for Lance











You didn't answer my question





I am not asking Gary, John, or Bill





You say it below - I want to know what
you mean. judyt











On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:17:16 -0500 Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:







Where does the dualism come from, you ask? Ask Judy where it
comes from. I notice it, Gary
identifies it, so do John and Bill. OOOPS! You wanna make this just about me,
doncha?











When I speak well of you Judy, I truly mean it! It's you who
keeps on addressing the rest of us minions from your infallible perch. 













From: Judy Taylor












Your response to the narrow path and the
strait gate is as follows - why?





Where does the dualism come from?











A the good old dualistic
narrow path!







judyt

He that says I know Him and doesn't keep His Commandments

is a liar (1 John 2:4)















judyt

He that says I know Him and doesn't keep His Commandments

is a liar (1 John 2:4)