Re: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-04 Thread Lance Muir 
Why?
- Original Message - 
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 04, 2005 11:37
Subject: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz



 Lance, if you are going to state that David's citations demonstrate a
 misreadng, please provide some evidence of such and allow David to
respond.

 Perry the Moderator

 From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:08:12 -0400
 
 As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreading of
 both.
 (Jesus  Scripture)
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
 
 
   Lance wrote:
I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe
that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed
to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie)
  
   I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name
into
 the
   mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture.
Don't
 you
   think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do?
  
   Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus does in
the
   following passage:
  
   John 10:34-36
   (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye
are
   gods?
   (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the
   scripture cannot be broken;
   (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the
   world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
  
   Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he illustrates
   respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture.  And why not, he also
 taught
   that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away.
  
   Matthew 5:17-18
   (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I
am
 not
   come to destroy, but to fulfil.
   (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or
 one
   tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
  
   Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen and obey
 those
   expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label as
legalists.
  
   Matthew 23:2-3
   (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
   (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and
do;
 but
   do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
  
   So who here is walking in the tradition of Jesus Christ?  Is it those
 who
   greatly respect the Scriptures and follow it closely, or is it those
who
   think it would be evil legalism to do so?
  
   Peace be with you.
   David Miller.
  
  
   --
   Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you
may
 know how you ought to answer every man.  (Colossians 4:6)
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Re: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-04 Thread Charles Perry Locke 
Because if you can not support your claims, they are likely false, and 
bearing false witness...well...you know.



From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
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Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:38:36 -0400

Why?
- Original Message -
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 04, 2005 11:37
Subject: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz



 Lance, if you are going to state that David's citations demonstrate a
 misreadng, please provide some evidence of such and allow David to
respond.

 Perry the Moderator

 From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:08:12 -0400
 
 As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreading of
 both.
 (Jesus  Scripture)
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
 
 
   Lance wrote:
I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe
that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed
to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie)
  
   I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name
into
 the
   mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture.
Don't
 you
   think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do?
  
   Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus does in
the
   following passage:
  
   John 10:34-36
   (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye
are
   gods?
   (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the
   scripture cannot be broken;
   (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into 
the

   world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
  
   Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he 
illustrates

   respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture.  And why not, he also
 taught
   that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away.
  
   Matthew 5:17-18
   (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I
am
 not
   come to destroy, but to fulfil.
   (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot 
or

 one
   tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
  
   Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen and obey
 those
   expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label as
legalists.
  
   Matthew 23:2-3
   (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
   (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and
do;
 but
   do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
  
   So who here is walking in the tradition of Jesus Christ?  Is it 
those

 who
   greatly respect the Scriptures and follow it closely, or is it those
who
   think it would be evil legalism to do so?
  
   Peace be with you.
   David Miller.
  
  
   --
   Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you
may
 know how you ought to answer every man.  (Colossians 4:6)
 http://www.InnGlory.org
  
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Re: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-04 Thread Lance Muir 
There is no false witness being 'borne' here, CPL. I've been reading David
for a long, long, long while. He has a way of parsing definite articles. I
already know what David would say in response to my 'supportive arguments'.
So then, as I bear up under your mutual monologues with the Mormons, you can
tolerate my 'read' of David's very distinctive theological 'bent'.


- Original Message - 
From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: June 04, 2005 11:41
Subject: Re: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz


 Because if you can not support your claims, they are likely false, and
 bearing false witness...well...you know.

 From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Subject: Re: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:38:36 -0400
 
 Why?
 - Original Message -
 From: Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Sent: June 04, 2005 11:37
 Subject: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
 
 
  
   Lance, if you are going to state that David's citations demonstrate a
   misreadng, please provide some evidence of such and allow David to
 respond.
  
   Perry the Moderator
  
   From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
   Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
   Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:08:12 -0400
   
   As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreading
of
   both.
   (Jesus  Scripture)
   
   
   - Original Message -
   From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
   Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09
   Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz
   
   
 Lance wrote:
  I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe
  that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed
  to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie)

 I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name
 into
   the
 mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture.
 Don't
   you
 think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do?

 Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus does
in
 the
 following passage:

 John 10:34-36
 (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said,
Ye
 are
 gods?
 (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and
the
 scripture cannot be broken;
 (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into
 the
 world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

 Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he
 illustrates
 respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture.  And why not, he
also
   taught
 that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away.

 Matthew 5:17-18
 (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets:
I
 am
   not
 come to destroy, but to fulfil.
 (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one
jot
 or
   one
 tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

 Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen and
obey
   those
 expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label as
 legalists.

 Matthew 23:2-3
 (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
 (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe
and
 do;
   but
 do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

 So who here is walking in the tradition of Jesus Christ?  Is it
 those
   who
 greatly respect the Scriptures and follow it closely, or is it
those
 who
 think it would be evil legalism to do so?

 Peace be with you.
 David Miller.


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Re: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-04 Thread Kevin Deegan 
Because everyone sees your baseless accusations for what they are.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why?- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: June 04, 2005 11:37Subject: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Lance, if you are going to state that David's citations demonstrate a misreadng, please provide some evidence of such and allow David torespond. Perry the Moderator From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To:  Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:08:12 -0400  As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreading of both. (Jesus  Scripture)  
 - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:  Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09 Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Lance wrote:I was simply alluding to those on TT who believethat God 'incarnated' in book form as opposedto a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie) I wouldn't use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my nameinto the   mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture.Don't you   think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do? Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus does inthe   following passage:
 John 10:34-36   (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Yeare   gods?   (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the   scripture cannot be broken;   (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the   world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he illustrates   respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture. And why not, he also taught   that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away. Matthew 5:17-18   (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: Iam not   come to destroy, but to fulfil.   (18) For verily I say unto you, Till
 heaven and earth pass, one jot or one   tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen and obey those   expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label aslegalists. Matthew 23:2-3   (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:   (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe anddo; but   do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. So who here is walking in the tradition of Jesus Christ? Is it those who   greatly respect the Scriptures and follow it closely, or is it thosewho   think it would be evil legalism to do so? Peace be with
 you.   David Miller.   --   "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that youmay know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.   -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org  If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you mayknow how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have afriend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to[EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who
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Re: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz

2005-06-04 Thread Kevin Deegan 
Translation:

Lance is saying "There is no wayI can support any of this"

Dance Lance Dance

Don't look now but maybe you have the GIFT of Prophecy.
Lance said "I already know"
Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is no false witness being 'borne' here, CPL. I've been reading Davidfor a long, long, long while. He has a way of parsing definite articles. Ialready know what David would say in response to my 'supportive arguments'.So then, as I bear up under your mutual monologues with the Mormons, you cantolerate my 'read' of David's very distinctive theological 'bent'.- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG>Sent: June 04, 2005 11:41Subject: Re: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Because if you can not support your claims, they are likely false, and bearing false witness...well...you know. From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To:
 <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Subject: Re: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 11:38:36 -0400  Why? - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Sent: June 04, 2005 11:37 Subject: Moderator commant: Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz   Lance, if you are going to state that David's citations demonstrate a   misreadng, please provide some evidence of such and allow David to respond. Perry the Moderator From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG>   Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV
 Bible Quiz   Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 06:08:12 -0400  As I said David, it is you. Your citations demonstrate a misreadingof   both.   (Jesus  Scripture) - Original Message -   From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG>   Sent: June 03, 2005 20:09   Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] NIV Bible Quiz   Lance wrote:  I was simply alluding to those on TT who believe  that God 'incarnated' in book form as opposed  to a human being. (You, David, Judy and Izzie) I wouldn't
 use the word 'incarnated' but because you threw my name into   the mix, I suppose you are addressing my great respect for Scripture. Don't   you think Jesus also respected Scripture the way that we do? Consider the straining at the letter of Scripture that Jesus doesin the following passage: John 10:34-36 (34) Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said,Ye are gods? (35) If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, andthe scripture cannot be broken; (36) Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into
 the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? Besides Jesus demonstrating here that he is a legalist, he illustrates respect for every jot and tittle of Scripture. And why not, healso   taught that no jot or tittle would fail until heaven and earth pass away. Matthew 5:17-18 (17) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets:I am   not come to destroy, but to fulfil. (18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, onejot or   one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.   
  Remember too that Jesus encouraged his disciples to listen andobey   those expounders of Scripture whom many on TruthTalk would label as legalists. Matthew 23:2-3 (2) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: (3) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observeand do;   but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. So who here is walking in the tradition of Jesus Christ? Is it those   who greatly respect the Scriptures and follow it closely, or is itthose who think it would be evil legalism to do so?  
   Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, thatyou may   know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)   http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an emailto   [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If youhave a   friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to   [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. --   "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that
 youmay   know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6)   http://www.InnGlory.org  If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to   [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If youhave a   friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to   [EMAIL PROTECTED] and h