Re: [tryton] search widget complexity
* Udo Spallek [2011-10-14 19:54 +0200]: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:36:23 +0200 Nicolas Évrard nicolas.evr...@b2ck.com: I already discussed about this with Okko. We are thinking about something like this: - Removing the text 'Search' and adding a search icon in the gtk.Entry - Moving the clear icon into the gtk.Entry - Putting on the right an editable dropdown box with the stored searches. When selecting one the searched then the focus would be at the end of the search entry and obviously the entry is populated by the search - I will also put a little plus icon so that people can add themselves custom searches. This all sounds very interesting to me. Some more questions to discuss: * Are the search queries stored in the database or limited to a single client installation (stored in .config/tryton/x.y/)? * Are all search queries global for all users or separate for each user or both possibilities? * Is it possible to include search queries with a module code or XML? I think we should store those information in the database. Probably per user (but I can see a use case for global searches). So yes some XML file will definitively be able to set up queries (that's probably nice for integrators). -- Nicolas Évrard B2CK SPRL rue de Rotterdam, 4 4000 Liège Belgium Tel: +32 472 54 46 59 E-mail/Jabber: nicolas.evr...@b2ck.com Website: http://www.b2ck.com/ -- tryton@googlegroups.com mailing list
Re: [tryton] search widget complexity
Le 14/10/2011 10:58, Jan Grasnick | grasbauer ug a écrit : Am 14.10.2011 07:52, schrieb Albert Cervera i Areny: Once again, I think it is a bad usage of Tryton. If you are looking for purchases of a supplier, you start from the Party form of this supplier and use the relate buttons. Thats not a real world example. I know for sure that nobody uses the relate button. They are clicking simply the menue entry for purchase and searching with the widget: opening parties supliers. Relate is a use that is very advanced for normal users. I understood from Cedric that a menu can be added for that. This menu would be under the purchase menu. This is not complicated for users. But for advanced search, it is really complicated with the new search widget. Maybe, it can be improved. -- tryton@googlegroups.com mailing list
Re: [tryton] search widget complexity
Le 14/10/2011 11:12, Udo Spallek a écrit : 2011-10-13 10:34:42 -0700 (PDT) faresfareshant...@googlemail.com: I find the new search widget too complicated for basic users. (I know one user who is unable to memorize the ctrl+c, ctrl+v shortcuts.) I think it would be better if the user can choose between the new and the old interface. For me the new interface is missing just two features: * Save a search query with name or description * Use a named search query from a selection. With this the implementor could pre-define sophisticated search queries. And the user can select them from a list. This can be a good idea. -- tryton@googlegroups.com mailing list
Re: [tryton] search widget complexity
Le Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:12:38 +0200, Udo Spallek udo.spal...@googlemail.com a écrit : For me the new interface is missing just two features: * Save a search query with name or description * Use a named search query from a selection. With this the implementor could pre-define sophisticated search queries. And the user can select them from a list. I agree with Udo that some kind of bookmarks for search queries would solve most of the current difficulties. -- Bertrand Chenal B2CK SPRL Rue de Rotterdam, 4 4000 Liège Belgium Email: bertrand.che...@b2ck.com Website: http://www.b2ck.com/ -- tryton@googlegroups.com mailing list
Re: [tryton] search widget complexity
* Bertrand Chenal [2011-10-14 17:01 +0200]: Le Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:12:38 +0200, Udo Spallek udo.spal...@googlemail.com a écrit : For me the new interface is missing just two features: * Save a search query with name or description * Use a named search query from a selection. With this the implementor could pre-define sophisticated search queries. And the user can select them from a list. I agree with Udo that some kind of bookmarks for search queries would solve most of the current difficulties. I already discussed about this with Okko. We are thinking about something like this: - Removing the text 'Search' and adding a search icon in the gtk.Entry - Moving the clear icon into the gtk.Entry - Putting on the right an editable dropdown box with the stored searches. When selecting one the searched then the focus would be at the end of the search entry and obviously the entry is populated by the search - I will also put a little plus icon so that people can add themselves custom searches. One issue is that we must have keyboard shortcuts for the search and the clean icons. -- Nicolas Évrard B2CK SPRL rue de Rotterdam, 4 4000 Liège Belgium Tel: +32 472 54 46 59 E-mail/Jabber: nicolas.evr...@b2ck.com Website: http://www.b2ck.com/ -- tryton@googlegroups.com mailing list
Re: [tryton] search widget complexity
Am Freitag, den 14.10.2011, 17:36 +0200 schrieb Nicolas Évrard: I already discussed about this with Okko. We are thinking about something like this: - Removing the text 'Search' and adding a search icon in the gtk.Entry - Moving the clear icon into the gtk.Entry - Putting on the right an editable dropdown box with the stored searches. When selecting one the searched then the focus would be at the end of the search entry and obviously the entry is populated by the search - I will also put a little plus icon so that people can add themselves custom searches. sounds really good for me. -- Korbinian Preisler virtual things Preisler Spallek GbR Munich - Aix-la-Chapelle Windeckstr. 77 81375 Munich - Germany Tel: +49 (89) 710 481 55 Fax: +49 (89) 710 481 56 i...@virtual-things.biz http://www.virtual-things.biz -- tryton@googlegroups.com mailing list
Re: [tryton] search widget complexity
Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:36:23 +0200 Nicolas Évrard nicolas.evr...@b2ck.com: I already discussed about this with Okko. We are thinking about something like this: - Removing the text 'Search' and adding a search icon in the gtk.Entry - Moving the clear icon into the gtk.Entry - Putting on the right an editable dropdown box with the stored searches. When selecting one the searched then the focus would be at the end of the search entry and obviously the entry is populated by the search - I will also put a little plus icon so that people can add themselves custom searches. This all sounds very interesting to me. Some more questions to discuss: * Are the search queries stored in the database or limited to a single client installation (stored in .config/tryton/x.y/)? * Are all search queries global for all users or separate for each user or both possibilities? * Is it possible to include search queries with a module code or XML? Cheers Udo -- _ virtual things Preisler Spallek GbR München - Aachen Windeckstr. 77 81375 München Tel: +49 (89) 710 481 55 Fax: +49 (89) 710 481 56 i...@virtual-things.biz http://www.virtual-things.biz -- tryton@googlegroups.com mailing list
[tryton] search widget complexity
Hi, I find the new search widget too complicated for basic users. (I know one user who is unable to memorize the ctrl+c, ctrl+v shortcuts.) I think it would be better if the user can choose between the new and the old interface. Fares -- tryton@googlegroups.com mailing list
Re: [tryton] search widget complexity
On 13/10/11 23:12 +0100, Fares Hantous wrote: Now, I am not against the new search widget as I was yesterday. But I think it should be improved to make it easier for basic users. What we need is feedback to improve the global usage of Tryton. Like for example, missing relate or some common menu/search entries etc. So fill the bugtracker… -- Cédric Krier B2CK SPRL Rue de Rotterdam, 4 4000 Liège Belgium Tel: +32 472 54 46 59 Email/Jabber: cedric.kr...@b2ck.com Website: http://www.b2ck.com/ pgpgbM8pooC7F.pgp Description: PGP signature
