Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC wants you to get Smashed, longer
Mark Jeffries, to Ron Casalotti, in part: And McPhee has a sweet presence and a pleasant voice, but *I know a *real* woman from Iowa* who is trying to do musical theater in New York who can sing McPhee under the table, has more personality than her and would give someone as talented as Hilty someone to worry about. Can we look her up in the usual places, say IBDB? -- BOB -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
[TV orNotTV] Re: NBC wants you to get Smashed, longer
I'm glad it's coming back, but I'm also glad Rebeck is no longer the showrunner. As much as I like (most of) the performers and the score, the plotting absurdities increase every week to the point where the show has not only jumped the shark, it came back and jumped again. And, yes, McPhee has a nice presence, but wouldn't stand a chance among real Broadway talent. I find it interesting that while the show is slanted to make Hilty's character the villainess and McPhee's the heroine, my sympathies generally go to the former rather than the latter. Nothing against Shaiman and Wittman, but I hope they go for a different composer in season two, preferably someone a little less well-known, and get a little more realistic. Jeebus knows there's enough drama involved with getting a Broadway show up without having to go the soap route. (I'm glad the meme of Anjelica Huston throwing drinks at her husband has disappeared. Would that Huston would go with it. I like her, but she seems to be playing a not-particularly talented drag queen.) As for Marilyn actually showing up on Broadway? I can't see it, unless they actually come up with a book over the next weeks. --Dave Sikula On Mar 22, 12:54 pm, Ron Casalotti roncasalo...@gmail.com wrote: Peacock network renews the back stage look at making a Broadway musical for a sophomore outing. As a native New Yorker and frequent Broadway patron I really like this show and am glad it'll be around next season. http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/03/22/smash-renewed/ Ron Casalotti Wayne, New Jersey -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NBC wants you to get Smashed, longer
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Dave Sikula dsik...@yahoo.com wrote: [snip] Nothing against Shaiman and Wittman, but I hope they go for a different composer in season two, preferably someone a little less well-known, and get a little more realistic. I heard a rumor the other day that you will hear non-Shaiman/Wittman songs in the final hours of season 1. I have no further (or substantiated) information. jd -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
[TV orNotTV] Re: Fwd: 30 Rock Goes Back To The Live Barn
Anything that gets Parks and Rec off of my teevee is to be welcomed. I can only hope the Peacock moves it to Friday, or better, Saturday. --Dave Sikula On Mar 22, 6:50 pm, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: TVBTN has Parks Rec, Community, Up All Night, and 30 Rock as likely to be renewed (The Office is certain to be renewed). So at least one of these would have to be on a non-Thursday night, assuming they don't go to a 3 hour comedy block. I think they might stay with the 2 hours of sitcoms on Thursday, and rotate these 5 shows during the season as they have in the past. A move to Friday is the kiss of death. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
[TV orNotTV] Re: Big Show @20
My own Olby moment came when he was still the sports guy at KCBS. One night in the middle of winter, without explanation, he gave a whole day's worth of baseball scores. From that moment on, he had me. --Dave Sikula On Mar 22, 6:52 am, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: I can remember the exact moment when I fell for Olbermann and the Big Show. He was doing the lead-in to the final home game for the Hartford Whalers, whose owner (a contemptible fuck by the name of Peter Karmanos) basically teased the fans by setting goals to keep the team in Hartford, having the fans meet the goals, then moving the team to Carolina anyway. Olbermann talked about the fan support over the previous few months despite the move. His last words before rolling the package, said with a snarl and anger: But, hey, they're just the fans, and who gives a damn about them anyway? On Mar 11, 2012, at 2:16 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: Wow - in a lot of ways it seems like more than twenty years. You can say what you want about Olbermann, but The Big Show was the smartest, hippest, most interesting development in the modern history of sports broadcasting, and probably in the top 10 of all broadcasting. Yes, they spawned a lot of obnoxious wannabes, and KO is a rapid cycling supernova whose spectacular explosions you can almost set your watch by, but it was just spectacular to watch. And unlike almost everything else marketed to males between the ages of 14 and 25, The Big Show made teenage boys smarter, (or at least, try to act smarter) not dumber. http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/keith-olbermann-dan-patrick-reuni... It was 20 years ago that sports television changed forever. ESPN’s “SportsCenter” debuted the anchoring duo of Keith Olbermann and Dan Patrick, and “The Big Show” was born. Now, The Paley Center is reuniting them (again) for a 20th anniversary retrospective. Moderated by Jim Miller, who co-wrote the recent ESPN book Those Guys Have All the Fun, the panel will be held April 5 at the Paley Center in New York. Patrick still covers sports on radio, television and in print, while Olbermann spends much of his time hosting his politically-focused “Countdown” on Current TV. Olbermann also has a baseball blog on MLB.com. The pair ere reunited on NBC’s “Football Night in America” a few years ago, though as Olbermann left NBC, so did the reunion. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Fwd: 30 Rock Goes Back To The Live Barn
I still think that NBC's not going to stand for another year of Big Bang beating them into submission and that they will put a multi-cam show at 8 against Big Bang--and that the Roseanne show would be the most likely of the multi-cam pilots they have now. On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:50 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.comwrote: Seems to me that the show, along with everything on Thursday Comedy Night Done Right that isn't named The Office, is on the bubble and that the live show would be a good May sweeps stunt that may keep the show on the air. I have the feeling that Thursday night is going to be torn apart next year, save The Office, and that at least two of the replacements will be multi-cam laugh track sitcoms, including the Roseanne/John Goodman reunion show (athough if CBS turns Thursday into a comedy block, they may back off, but they do need something mainstream to go against Big Bang at 8). Joe Adalian of NY Mag's Vulture has suggested moving 30 Rock, Parks and Rec and Community to either Wednesday night or Friday night, suggesting that their audience will follow them (or DVR them). Considering that Friday's become the Land of Cult Audience Shows, Comedy Night Done Right (with a new one-camera show--I don't think Up All Night will get renewed) and Grimm at 10 might be a good idea. TVBTN has Parks Rec, Community, Up All Night, and 30 Rock as likely to be renewed (The Office is certain to be renewed). So at least one of these would have to be on a non-Thursday night, assuming they don't go to a 3 hour comedy block. I think they might stay with the 2 hours of sitcoms on Thursday, and rotate these 5 shows during the season as they have in the past. A move to Friday is the kiss of death. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Larry King returns to broadcasting on Internet-based Ora.TV - From Inside the Box - Zap2it
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 6:48 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: Maybe the no commercials policy is accurate for NBC.com prime time streaming, but the late night programs have had ad breaks for a while. Apparently they recently added the ad breaks to prime time shows as well. I couldn't get a connection because of my ad blocker. When I tried with a different browser the show started streaming after an ad. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Digest for tvornottv@googlegroups.com - 18 Messages in 5 Topics
Which Superman movie was it that Clark Kent was looking for a phone booth to change in, but, finding none, used a revolving door instead? I just noticed that the phone booth in Amish country in Southern Maryland is gone :-( Cell phones outside the house are now accepted practice by the Amish there. They have wind generators to charge farm equipment (and buggy lighting) so I guess they charge them there or maybe off the buggy battery. They were early adopters of LED bulbs because the battery recharge frequency goes way down. Mark On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 5:40 AM, tvornottv@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/topics - NotTV: LA Times to follow... #13639c78fe362030_group_thread_0 [3 Updates] - Obligatory Shannen Doherty question...#13639c78fe362030_group_thread_1[1 Update] - PoliticsTV: John Fugelsang sighting...#13639c78fe362030_group_thread_2[2 Updates] - TV Phone History [Was: Sitcoms introduced to whole new generation]#13639c78fe362030_group_thread_3[11 Updates] - Sheen Returning to '2.5 Men' (Sorta)#13639c78fe362030_group_thread_4[1 Update] NotTV: LA Times to follow...http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/1dac5a698e1f20b9 PGage pga...@gmail.com Mar 21 06:32PM -0700 ...several other papers, including its NY namesake, into paywall-land next month: http://goo.gl/yFSIw I was not worried about this at first, since my experience with the NYT has been that the wall is very porous. I am sure I read several articles per day there, and only rarely have I been locked out (partly I guess because I often leave a window open, and it seems as though once I am on the site, it does not count clicking within it to other articles as a separate visit). There are weeks when I click on Nate Silver's column probably 7 - 10 times, and don't get dinged. But I got locked on the wrong side of the pay wall last week (Ides of March) from the LA TImes in what I guess is the first month. Having grown up in Los Angeles, I do still think of the LAT as my home newspaper, and I guess it is a main go-to, not to mention I am a passionate Laker fan, and read their sports page a lot. But I thought the other small tricks I had used with the NYT would work. In principle I am not against daily papers finding a way to monetize their internet presence - in fact I am in favor of it. I think the idea that some how the free information that frolicks on the internet has made professional journalism obsolete is absurd. Professional journalism provides real value, and we should be willing to pay for it. In practice of course, this is mildly irritating. What I would like is to pay something like $10/month and get unlimited access to some bundle of newspapers, but I guess that would not generate enough revenue. calwatch calwa...@gmail.com Mar 21 07:54PM -0700 There is no lock on the mobile version of the site - m.latimes.com. PGage pga...@gmail.com Mar 22 12:17AM -0700 the site, it does not count clicking within it to other articles as a separate visit). There are weeks when I click on Nate Silver's column probably 7 - 10 times, and don't get dinged. (SNP) And now I notice (maybe it has been there a long time) a warning on the NYT that Beginning in April, visitors to NYTimes.com will have access to 10 free articles per month instead of 20. 99 cents for first month as a trial subscription gets you past the paywall, but then $15.00/month. Obligatory Shannen Doherty question...http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/42949f001b0a4dfc Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com Mar 21 07:25PM -0700 Yes, a Shannen Doherty episode guide is coming fast and furiously, but the particular Shannen installment is modestly off track by the (airquotes) film's (airquotes) lack of a director. I've seen more than a few Alan Smithee films in my day, and I can recall a project produced by a former boss wherein the director's name was replaced by the name of his dogs, but can anyone else recall an instance of a film absent a director? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1684936/fullcredits#cast -- Kevin M. (RPCV) PoliticsTV: John Fugelsang sighting...http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/a186166173dae818 Bob in Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com Mar 21 05:20PM -0700 The ex-AFV cohost, a political comedian by some folks' description, was on a CNN panel with Soledad O'Brien today (21), and hits a Romney senior adviser with a question whose response has been awl over the news media... http://goo.gl/MziXT -- BOB David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com Mar 21 06:31PM -0700 The occasional Tweets I see from Fugelsang suggest he's at
[TV orNotTV] Semi-TV: Genuine Dragon Tattoo DVD looks Pirated.
Sony Pictures made The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo DVDs look like burned DVD-Rs with printing that looks like a Sharpie-written title. It is so convincing that Redbox had to post a note telling people that Sony sent them like that, and this is not a case of them attempting to get around a 56-day rental block. http://www.deadline.com/2012/03/new-dragon-tattoo-dvd-is-real-really/ OK, they didn't reference their 56-day fight with WB. I just threw that in to be cute. -- Wesley McGee http://www.ambivi.com http://sterlingnorth.vox.com http://drawing-a-blank.tumblr.com Twitter: @westwit G+: http://plus.google.com/113413697748381364954 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/wesleymcgee -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NBC wants you to get Smashed, longer
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Dave Sikula dsik...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm glad it's coming back, but I'm also glad Rebeck is no longer the showrunner. As much as I like (most of) the performers and the score, the plotting absurdities increase every week to the point where the show has not only jumped the shark, it came back and jumped again. (SNIP) Right - its like there are doing everything they can to drive away all viewers who are not 15 year old girls. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Fwd: 30 Rock Goes Back To The Live Barn
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.comwrote: I still think that NBC's not going to stand for another year of Big Bang beating them into submission and that they will put a multi-cam show at 8 against Big Bang--and that the Roseanne show would be the most likely of the multi-cam pilots they have now. I don't necessarily disagree. Chelsea, and probably Whitney, will both probably be gone next year, they will have room for 2 more sitcoms even if they keep the Thursday 5. It would make some sense to go back to the original Thursday night formula at NBC, which was 2 more family (and mass appeal) shows form 8:00 to 9:00, and then two hipper or sophisticated shows from 9:00 to 10:00, which might help them build some kind of a following for whatever 10:00 drama they try again with (which probably will not be Awake). The Will Arnett Show (which is how I think of it, to keep justifying my watching it) actually seems better suited as an 8:30 show following Rosanne, with 30 Rock at 9:30 after The Office (though, I guess that will be the Office Spin-off I forgot about, so maybe if the TVBTN guys are right, there is only room for the Rosanne show next year). On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:50 PM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Mark Jeffries spotligh...@gmail.comwrote: Seems to me that the show, along with everything on Thursday Comedy Night Done Right that isn't named The Office, is on the bubble and that the live show would be a good May sweeps stunt that may keep the show on the air. I have the feeling that Thursday night is going to be torn apart next year, save The Office, and that at least two of the replacements will be multi-cam laugh track sitcoms, including the Roseanne/John Goodman reunion show (athough if CBS turns Thursday into a comedy block, they may back off, but they do need something mainstream to go against Big Bang at 8). Joe Adalian of NY Mag's Vulture has suggested moving 30 Rock, Parks and Rec and Community to either Wednesday night or Friday night, suggesting that their audience will follow them (or DVR them). Considering that Friday's become the Land of Cult Audience Shows, Comedy Night Done Right (with a new one-camera show--I don't think Up All Night will get renewed) and Grimm at 10 might be a good idea. TVBTN has Parks Rec, Community, Up All Night, and 30 Rock as likely to be renewed (The Office is certain to be renewed). So at least one of these would have to be on a non-Thursday night, assuming they don't go to a 3 hour comedy block. I think they might stay with the 2 hours of sitcoms on Thursday, and rotate these 5 shows during the season as they have in the past. A move to Friday is the kiss of death. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
Re: [TV orNotTV] Semi-TV: Genuine Dragon Tattoo DVD looks Pirated.
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Wesley McGee wesley.mc...@gmail.com wrote: Sony Pictures made The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo DVDs look like burned DVD-Rs with printing that looks like a Sharpie-written title. It is so convincing that Redbox had to post a note telling people that Sony sent them like that, and this is not a case of them attempting to get around a 56-day rental block. Borat did the much the same thing, but took it a step further; the disc sold with an outer sleeve for the DVD case that looked like a standard DVD slipcover, but when you slide the case out, the insert in the case sleeve is a photocopied version of the outer sleeve in faux-Cyrillic. -- -- Ben Scripps benscri...@gmail.com -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
