Re: [TV orNotTV] Golden Globes worst ratings ever

[Kevin M.]

Industry publicists tell the Hollywood Foreign Press Association: reform or
we will abandon you

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-03-15/hollywood-publicists-warn-golden-globes-group-to-change-or-lose-access-to-star-clients

Narrator: But they didn’t abandon the HFPA, because the most dangerous
thing to do in Hollywood is deny celebrities a photo op


On Sat, Mar 6, 2021 at 10:30 AM PGage  wrote:

> Right. But your point is totally plausible as well. TV watching is a
> behavioral habit, and this pandemic has disrupted so many behavioral
> patterns. Very hard to say which of the old habits will return unchanged
> and which won’t. I’m wondering if I will ever go back to wearing real pants
> again to work.
>
> On Sat, 6 Mar 2021 at 9:53 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 3:59 PM PGage  wrote:
>>
>>> No way to prove, but I think we can make a reasonable inference. Ticket
>>> sales at my local theater were down in 2020, and I guess its possible they
>>> will continue at that level after the pandemic, but I think its reasonable
>>> to infer they will go back up. I’m not saying the inference is as strong
>>> for major television events, but still reasonable.
>>>
>>> This is why I included a hypothesis (a specific, testable prediction).
>>> If GGA ratings go up next time, but are still lower than the time before, I
>>> will be right; if they stay the same or go down, then you will be.
>>>
>>
>> I want to point out that there is a major difference between activities
>> that have been shut down, like theater and live music, and TV. Of course
>> people will return to those venues as soon as they reopen and it's
>> pointless to draw any conclusions from comparing 2019 attendance to 2020
>> attendance.
>>
>> After further reflection (God knows why this takes up any space in my
>> mind) the Golden Globes ceremony was always sold as a big party with a red
>> carpet ceremony and boozing at the tables was encouraged to give an
>> anything-can-happen attitude. All of that was missing this year and that
>> could have depressed viewership. If next year's ceremony can be sold as a
>> celebration of show biz stars getting back together and having a good time
>> that could drive up the number of viewers.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Lena Headey's next stop

[PGage]

She was great in GoT, but she will always be Sarah Conner to me...

On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 at 10:35 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> The former "Cersei" joins skiffy-psycho-thriller "Beacon 23," exec'ed by
> Zak Penn and headed to Spectrum, with later repeats on AMC's platforms...
>
>
> https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/lena-headey-zak-penn-spectrum-amc-networks-beacon-23-1234932694/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Ewoks and other Star Wars stuff headed to Disney+

[John Edwards]

Yes, the Disney Vault was a wonderful and also frightening place to
imagine...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWr5SLg8hSE

On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 at 01:09, Tom Wolper  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 12:14 AM Kevin M. 
> wrote:
>
>> The two Ewok movies, the segment of the Star Wars Holiday Special that
>> introduced Boba Fett and the first two seasons of Clone Wars shorts headed
>> to a small screen near you. No sign yet of the Ewoks/Droids Adventure Hour.
>>
>>
>> https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/star-wars-holiday-special-boba-fett-ewoks-caravan-of-courage-disney-plus-1234932286/
>>
>
> Disney had a genius marketing concept of the Disney Vault that made them a
> ton of money over the decades. They would make their classic movies
> available on home video during a window of six months or so and then
> announce they were returning the movie to the vault. The arbitrary scarcity
> drove up sales. The one real premium to Disney+ is that it makes the vault
> obsolete. With one notable exception Disney is putting all of its archive
> on the channel and I get a feeling of satisfaction when I see shows and
> movies that were buried away or only to be had in bootleg versions become
> available to any subscriber on demand.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ewoks and other Star Wars stuff headed to Disney+

[Karen Owen]

The announcement I saw said that the Ewoks Saturday

morning show was included, but not the Droids series.

I hope that the Droids series might be added to go along

with the new Droid Story animation that was in the boat

load of new Star Wars content announced in December.

I agree that adding the content that was not ever released on

home video or has gone out of print is what I'm interested

in seeing on Disney+.   I'm still hoping more of old Wonderful

World of Disney episodes and 60s/70s movies are added.

Leonard Maltin was doing a series of Disney Vault nights on TCM

and trying to get everything on that he was able to get

permission for before Disney+ started.  The only 60s/70s film

that he didn't run that has shown up on Disney+ so far is

Justin Morgan Had a Horse.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ewoks and other Star Wars stuff headed to Disney+

[Tom Wolper]

On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 11:05 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WFjM3QWKlE (link)
>
> [DUCKS]
>

Good. This is the stuff that should be available. If the plan of Disney is
to present the archive of their properties then they need to add the shows
that didn't work as well as the ones that did. Spotify doesn't limit itself
to greatest hits albums and Disney shouldn't limit itself with its
properties. When the announcement was made that the SNL archive was going
to be on Peacock there were some wondering here if that would include
episodes like the Louise Lasser and Milton Berle shows. If Lorne is trying
to sell a package to a cable channel it makes sense to leave out the
failures. But when an archive is being made accessible and ad money is not
at stake it's important to include even the failures for people who want to
understand a show and its impact in the context of its time.

I never got immersed into the Star Wars universe. And I know there are a
lot of people born after 1977 for whom this universe has taken a part of
their imaginations. They take it seriously and believe everybody involved
always did. A couple of days ago, while watching Season 4 of The Muppet
Show, I came across an episode with Mark Hammill which also featured R2D2,
C3P0, and Chewbacca. It's clear that they were delighted to have made a
movie that resonated with an audience but they didn't take any of it
seriously. In the name of preserving the integrity of the franchise it's as
ludicrous for Disney to suppress the Ewoks show as it would be to suppress
the Muppet Show episode.

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[TV orNotTV] Lena Headey's next stop

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

The former "Cersei" joins skiffy-psycho-thriller "Beacon 23," exec'ed by 
Zak Penn and headed to Spectrum, with later repeats on AMC's platforms...

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/lena-headey-zak-penn-spectrum-amc-networks-beacon-23-1234932694/
 (link)

B

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[TV orNotTV] Podcast watchdog (listendog?) group launches

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

To point out to current and potential advertisers the most and least biased 
pods...

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/podcasting-advertising-media-roundtable-1234932495/
 (link)

B

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Piers Morgan quits/is fired from morning show

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

PM breaks the record for Ofcom complaints; "the vast majority of Britons 
are behind me," he tweets.

https://variety.com/2021/tv/global/piers-morgan-meghan-markle-ofcom-record-1234932743/
 (link)

B

Moi, to Brad Beam,, March 12th:

> Piers leaps to Sharon Osbourne's defence after she gets cornered by her 
> "Talk" mates... 
> https://variety.com/2021/tv/global/piers-morgan-sharon-osbourne-good-morning-britain-the-talk-racism-1234929021/
>  (link)  
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Ewoks and other Star Wars stuff headed to Disney+

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WFjM3QWKlE (link)

[DUCKS]

B

Kevin M, March 17th:

> The two Ewok movies, the segment of the Star Wars Holiday Special that 
> introduced Boba Fett and the first two seasons of Clone Wars shorts headed 
> to a small screen near you. No sign yet of the Ewoks/Droids Adventure Hour.
>
>
> https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/star-wars-holiday-special-boba-fett-ewoks-caravan-of-courage-disney-plus-1234932286/
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[TV orNotTV] Fox official responsible likes Mike Holmes, but not his kin

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Of course, why the Canadian home-improvement star even got to that network 
in the first place is... a puzzlement.

https://www.thewrap.com/holmes-family-effect-mike-holmes-fox-premiere-dan-harrison/
 (link/soft 
$)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] HBOmax revives "Tattletales"

[Mark Jeffries]

And they're still putting in the canned response and the fake audience
insert shots (which they did on the "Name That Tune" reboot, which was shot
in Australia with a live audience--they still taped phony reactions to
insert into the show).  Fox reality chief Rob Wade is making up for what he
couldn't do for all the years he showran "Dancing with the Stars" because
it was L!

Mark Jeffries
spotligh...@gmail.com


On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 9:55 PM M-D November  wrote:

> Actually, the virtual audience on Masked Singer S5 is real...but the
> audience only sees the performances (no clues, no judges, etc.)
>
> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 10:00:19 AM UTC-4 Mark Jeffries wrote:
>
>> The blurb seemed to indicate that they are going to have a "house party"
>> atmosphere, which sounds like they're adapting for no audience or a Zoom
>> audience (which is not the fake "virtual audiences" on Fox's reality shows,
>> I hope).  That along with the fact that the couples are playing for charity
>> would seem to indicate no bananas section this time.
>>
>> Mark Jeffries
>> spotl...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 2:07 PM Jim Ellwanger 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I hope they're not going to put this into production until they can have
>>> full studio audiences, because half the fun of the original was the red,
>>> blue, and "banana" rooting sections.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 15, 2021, at 11:51 AM, M-D November  wrote:
>>>
>>> The ghost of Bert Convey could not be reached for comment.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 13, 2021 at 11:09:34 AM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:
>>>
 The Fremantle (from Goodson) game chestnut gets a first-season order,
 hosted/exec'ed by Ayesha and Stephen Curry...


 https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/hbo-max-tattletales-revival-ayesha-stephen-curry-1234929421/
  (link)

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[TV orNotTV] RIP Sabine Schmitz

[Kevin M.]

The undisputed boss of the Nurburgring and co-host (and prior to that,
frequent guest) of Top Gear passed away at 51 from cancer. In the post
Clarkson, Hammond, and May era of Top Gear, she was a reason to keep
watching the series.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/top-gear-tv/sabine-schmitz-has-passed-away-aged-51?amp

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