Re: [TV orNotTV] Are You Ready for Some 'Toy Story' Football?

2023-10-02 Thread Tom Wolper 
My guess is the technical people showed them what is possible and they’re
trying to figure out what to do with it. The NHL game and this NFL game are
experiments and they’re getting feedback which will tell them if they
should continue.

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 8:49 PM PGage  wrote:

> I watched it for a while as well. It was a specialized commentary, aimed
> at children or people who did not understand much about gridiron football.
> This was the team that used to do MNF on ESPN (at least I recognized
> “Booger’s” voice.
>
> While I was watching they said they were having technical difficulties
> that prevented them from showing field action for a bit. As you say when it
> returned it was kind of impressive from a technical perspective.
>
> I am kind of glad it was not over the top “Slime Bowl!” (At least for the
> interval I watched), but it seemed like a half baked idea, not fully
> thought through. Surely there is something cool they could do with that
> tech, but they haven’t really found it yet.
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 at 2:13 PM Adam Bowie  wrote:
>
>> I noticed on Disney+ (in the UK) a couple of hours ago as they were
>> featuring it. So I spun to a random section to see how it sounded and was
>> left unimpressed. I'm sure the tech that allowed them to capture the
>> players' locations on the field in realtime, as well as identify the ball's
>> location and animate the ball getting from A to B is all very impressive
>> (although I'm sure teams have something similar available for tactical
>> purposes). But the commentary seemed to be a regular one with no real
>> changes made for the target audience.
>>
>> It felt a bit like one of those YouTube channels where someone does their
>> own commentary of a game to which they don't have the rights, and rustle up
>> some graphics, all while fielding live comments.
>>
>> Surely, if you're really after getting kids into the game, you probably
>> just need to show the real pictures but create alternative commentaries and
>> features around the game?
>>
>> This feels like a solution in search of a problem.
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 9:53 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>>
>>> I watched a few minutes of this presentation of the game this morning.
>>> It was more restrained than the NHL game. There might be something to doing
>>> an alternate stream of a game targeted at kids, especially as alcohol and
>>> gambling become a bigger part of the sport and its ads. The graphic part of
>>> showing Andy’s room rather than the stadium didn’t seem to add anything to
>>> me.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 4:52 PM M-D November 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 “Big City Greens”.

 On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 10:01:46 PM UTC-5 Tom Wolper wrote:

> ESPN+ did this with an NHL game last season. They used some characters
> from a Disney+ series i never heard of (Meet the Greens, maybe) and I
> watched a few minutes of it. Doing a game this way might hold the 
> attention
> of a child who would get bored watching the live game. The gimmick got
> tedious for me very quickly and I went back to the live game.
>
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:47 PM Mark Jeffries 
> wrote:
>
>> on Sun. Oct. 1, while the Atlanta/Jacksonville NFL game from London
>> televises on ESPN+ and the team markets OTA, a special live motion 
>> capture
>> presentation on ESPN+ and Disney+ will present the game as it might be
>> played by toys in the bedroom of Andy, the central home of the Pixar "Toy
>> Story" series--your favorite "Toy Story" characters will all be present
>> (but I don't think Tom Hanks or Tim Allen will be doing voices):
>>
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nfl-disney-toy-story-animated-game-telecast-1235587299/
>>
>> The above includes a promo for the show, beginning with the familiar
>> Monday NIght Football theme.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Are You Ready for Some 'Toy Story' Football?

2023-10-01 Thread Kevin M. 
On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 5:49 PM PGage  wrote:

> I watched it for a while as well. It was a specialized commentary, aimed
> at children or people who did not understand much about gridiron football.
> This was the team that used to do MNF on ESPN (at least I recognized
> “Booger’s” voice.
>
> While I was watching they said they were having technical difficulties
> that prevented them from showing field action for a bit. As you say when it
> returned it was kind of impressive from a technical perspective.
>
> I am kind of glad it was not over the top “Slime Bowl!” (At least for the
> interval I watched), but it seemed like a half baked idea, not fully
> thought through. Surely there is something cool they could do with that
> tech, but they haven’t really found it yet.
>

How about replacing the cyclists in Le Tour De France with the characters
from Mario Kart?


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>
>
> On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 at 2:13 PM Adam Bowie  wrote:
>
>> I noticed on Disney+ (in the UK) a couple of hours ago as they were
>> featuring it. So I spun to a random section to see how it sounded and was
>> left unimpressed. I'm sure the tech that allowed them to capture the
>> players' locations on the field in realtime, as well as identify the ball's
>> location and animate the ball getting from A to B is all very impressive
>> (although I'm sure teams have something similar available for tactical
>> purposes). But the commentary seemed to be a regular one with no real
>> changes made for the target audience.
>>
>> It felt a bit like one of those YouTube channels where someone does their
>> own commentary of a game to which they don't have the rights, and rustle up
>> some graphics, all while fielding live comments.
>>
>> Surely, if you're really after getting kids into the game, you probably
>> just need to show the real pictures but create alternative commentaries and
>> features around the game?
>>
>> This feels like a solution in search of a problem.
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 9:53 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>>
>>> I watched a few minutes of this presentation of the game this morning.
>>> It was more restrained than the NHL game. There might be something to doing
>>> an alternate stream of a game targeted at kids, especially as alcohol and
>>> gambling become a bigger part of the sport and its ads. The graphic part of
>>> showing Andy’s room rather than the stadium didn’t seem to add anything to
>>> me.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 4:52 PM M-D November 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 “Big City Greens”.

 On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 10:01:46 PM UTC-5 Tom Wolper wrote:

> ESPN+ did this with an NHL game last season. They used some characters
> from a Disney+ series i never heard of (Meet the Greens, maybe) and I
> watched a few minutes of it. Doing a game this way might hold the 
> attention
> of a child who would get bored watching the live game. The gimmick got
> tedious for me very quickly and I went back to the live game.
>
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:47 PM Mark Jeffries 
> wrote:
>
>> on Sun. Oct. 1, while the Atlanta/Jacksonville NFL game from London
>> televises on ESPN+ and the team markets OTA, a special live motion 
>> capture
>> presentation on ESPN+ and Disney+ will present the game as it might be
>> played by toys in the bedroom of Andy, the central home of the Pixar "Toy
>> Story" series--your favorite "Toy Story" characters will all be present
>> (but I don't think Tom Hanks or Tim Allen will be doing voices):
>>
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nfl-disney-toy-story-animated-game-telecast-1235587299/
>>
>> The above includes a promo for the show, beginning with the familiar
>> Monday NIght Football theme.
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Are You Ready for Some 'Toy Story' Football?

2023-10-01 Thread PGage 
I watched it for a while as well. It was a specialized commentary, aimed at
children or people who did not understand much about gridiron football.
This was the team that used to do MNF on ESPN (at least I recognized
“Booger’s” voice.

While I was watching they said they were having technical difficulties that
prevented them from showing field action for a bit. As you say when it
returned it was kind of impressive from a technical perspective.

I am kind of glad it was not over the top “Slime Bowl!” (At least for the
interval I watched), but it seemed like a half baked idea, not fully
thought through. Surely there is something cool they could do with that
tech, but they haven’t really found it yet.

Sent from Gmail Mobile


On Sun, 1 Oct 2023 at 2:13 PM Adam Bowie  wrote:

> I noticed on Disney+ (in the UK) a couple of hours ago as they were
> featuring it. So I spun to a random section to see how it sounded and was
> left unimpressed. I'm sure the tech that allowed them to capture the
> players' locations on the field in realtime, as well as identify the ball's
> location and animate the ball getting from A to B is all very impressive
> (although I'm sure teams have something similar available for tactical
> purposes). But the commentary seemed to be a regular one with no real
> changes made for the target audience.
>
> It felt a bit like one of those YouTube channels where someone does their
> own commentary of a game to which they don't have the rights, and rustle up
> some graphics, all while fielding live comments.
>
> Surely, if you're really after getting kids into the game, you probably
> just need to show the real pictures but create alternative commentaries and
> features around the game?
>
> This feels like a solution in search of a problem.
>
>
> Adam
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 9:53 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
>> I watched a few minutes of this presentation of the game this morning. It
>> was more restrained than the NHL game. There might be something to doing an
>> alternate stream of a game targeted at kids, especially as alcohol and
>> gambling become a bigger part of the sport and its ads. The graphic part of
>> showing Andy’s room rather than the stadium didn’t seem to add anything to
>> me.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 4:52 PM M-D November 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> “Big City Greens”.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 10:01:46 PM UTC-5 Tom Wolper wrote:
>>>
 ESPN+ did this with an NHL game last season. They used some characters
 from a Disney+ series i never heard of (Meet the Greens, maybe) and I
 watched a few minutes of it. Doing a game this way might hold the attention
 of a child who would get bored watching the live game. The gimmick got
 tedious for me very quickly and I went back to the live game.

 On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:47 PM Mark Jeffries 
 wrote:

> on Sun. Oct. 1, while the Atlanta/Jacksonville NFL game from London
> televises on ESPN+ and the team markets OTA, a special live motion capture
> presentation on ESPN+ and Disney+ will present the game as it might be
> played by toys in the bedroom of Andy, the central home of the Pixar "Toy
> Story" series--your favorite "Toy Story" characters will all be present
> (but I don't think Tom Hanks or Tim Allen will be doing voices):
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nfl-disney-toy-story-animated-game-telecast-1235587299/
>
> The above includes a promo for the show, beginning with the familiar
> Monday NIght Football theme.
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Are You Ready for Some 'Toy Story' Football?

2023-10-01 Thread Adam Bowie 
I noticed on Disney+ (in the UK) a couple of hours ago as they were
featuring it. So I spun to a random section to see how it sounded and was
left unimpressed. I'm sure the tech that allowed them to capture the
players' locations on the field in realtime, as well as identify the ball's
location and animate the ball getting from A to B is all very impressive
(although I'm sure teams have something similar available for tactical
purposes). But the commentary seemed to be a regular one with no real
changes made for the target audience.

It felt a bit like one of those YouTube channels where someone does their
own commentary of a game to which they don't have the rights, and rustle up
some graphics, all while fielding live comments.

Surely, if you're really after getting kids into the game, you probably
just need to show the real pictures but create alternative commentaries and
features around the game?

This feels like a solution in search of a problem.


Adam


On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 9:53 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> I watched a few minutes of this presentation of the game this morning. It
> was more restrained than the NHL game. There might be something to doing an
> alternate stream of a game targeted at kids, especially as alcohol and
> gambling become a bigger part of the sport and its ads. The graphic part of
> showing Andy’s room rather than the stadium didn’t seem to add anything to
> me.
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 4:52 PM M-D November  wrote:
>
>> “Big City Greens”.
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 10:01:46 PM UTC-5 Tom Wolper wrote:
>>
>>> ESPN+ did this with an NHL game last season. They used some characters
>>> from a Disney+ series i never heard of (Meet the Greens, maybe) and I
>>> watched a few minutes of it. Doing a game this way might hold the attention
>>> of a child who would get bored watching the live game. The gimmick got
>>> tedious for me very quickly and I went back to the live game.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:47 PM Mark Jeffries 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 on Sun. Oct. 1, while the Atlanta/Jacksonville NFL game from London
 televises on ESPN+ and the team markets OTA, a special live motion capture
 presentation on ESPN+ and Disney+ will present the game as it might be
 played by toys in the bedroom of Andy, the central home of the Pixar "Toy
 Story" series--your favorite "Toy Story" characters will all be present
 (but I don't think Tom Hanks or Tim Allen will be doing voices):


 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nfl-disney-toy-story-animated-game-telecast-1235587299/

 The above includes a promo for the show, beginning with the familiar
 Monday NIght Football theme.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Are You Ready for Some 'Toy Story' Football?

2023-10-01 Thread Tom Wolper 
I watched a few minutes of this presentation of the game this morning. It
was more restrained than the NHL game. There might be something to doing an
alternate stream of a game targeted at kids, especially as alcohol and
gambling become a bigger part of the sport and its ads. The graphic part of
showing Andy’s room rather than the stadium didn’t seem to add anything to
me.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 4:52 PM M-D November  wrote:

> “Big City Greens”.
>
> On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 10:01:46 PM UTC-5 Tom Wolper wrote:
>
>> ESPN+ did this with an NHL game last season. They used some characters
>> from a Disney+ series i never heard of (Meet the Greens, maybe) and I
>> watched a few minutes of it. Doing a game this way might hold the attention
>> of a child who would get bored watching the live game. The gimmick got
>> tedious for me very quickly and I went back to the live game.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:47 PM Mark Jeffries 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> on Sun. Oct. 1, while the Atlanta/Jacksonville NFL game from London
>>> televises on ESPN+ and the team markets OTA, a special live motion capture
>>> presentation on ESPN+ and Disney+ will present the game as it might be
>>> played by toys in the bedroom of Andy, the central home of the Pixar "Toy
>>> Story" series--your favorite "Toy Story" characters will all be present
>>> (but I don't think Tom Hanks or Tim Allen will be doing voices):
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nfl-disney-toy-story-animated-game-telecast-1235587299/
>>>
>>> The above includes a promo for the show, beginning with the familiar
>>> Monday NIght Football theme.
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Are You Ready for Some 'Toy Story' Football?

2023-09-14 Thread M-D November 
“Big City Greens”. 

On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 10:01:46 PM UTC-5 Tom Wolper wrote:

> ESPN+ did this with an NHL game last season. They used some characters 
> from a Disney+ series i never heard of (Meet the Greens, maybe) and I 
> watched a few minutes of it. Doing a game this way might hold the attention 
> of a child who would get bored watching the live game. The gimmick got 
> tedious for me very quickly and I went back to the live game.
>
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:47 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:
>
>> on Sun. Oct. 1, while the Atlanta/Jacksonville NFL game from London 
>> televises on ESPN+ and the team markets OTA, a special live motion capture 
>> presentation on ESPN+ and Disney+ will present the game as it might be 
>> played by toys in the bedroom of Andy, the central home of the Pixar "Toy 
>> Story" series--your favorite "Toy Story" characters will all be present 
>> (but I don't think Tom Hanks or Tim Allen will be doing voices):
>>
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nfl-disney-toy-story-animated-game-telecast-1235587299/
>>
>> The above includes a promo for the show, beginning with the familiar 
>> Monday NIght Football theme.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Are You Ready for Some 'Toy Story' Football?

2023-09-12 Thread 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV 
 Didn't someone try to simulcast or simulate a football game with one of those 
electric football setups that was basically a small vibrating field?  No, I 
figured I was imagining it.
Seriously though, I'd last longer with a game played by the toys, especially if 
the Army men were the linesmen.  But I'm not in a position to add another 
streaming service, so I'll pass.

David

On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 07:47:59 PM PDT, Mark Jeffries 
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 on Sun. Oct. 1, while the Atlanta/Jacksonville NFL game from London televises 
on ESPN+ and the team markets OTA, a special live motion capture presentation 
on ESPN+ and Disney+ will present the game as it might be played by toys in the 
bedroom of Andy, the central home of the Pixar "Toy Story" series--your 
favorite "Toy Story" characters will all be present (but I don't think Tom 
Hanks or Tim Allen will be doing voices):
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nfl-disney-toy-story-animated-game-telecast-1235587299/

The above includes a promo for the show, beginning with the familiar Monday 
NIght Football theme.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Are You Ready for Some 'Toy Story' Football?

2023-09-12 Thread Tom Wolper 
ESPN+ did this with an NHL game last season. They used some characters from
a Disney+ series i never heard of (Meet the Greens, maybe) and I watched a
few minutes of it. Doing a game this way might hold the attention of a
child who would get bored watching the live game. The gimmick got tedious
for me very quickly and I went back to the live game.

On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:47 PM Mark Jeffries 
wrote:

> on Sun. Oct. 1, while the Atlanta/Jacksonville NFL game from London
> televises on ESPN+ and the team markets OTA, a special live motion capture
> presentation on ESPN+ and Disney+ will present the game as it might be
> played by toys in the bedroom of Andy, the central home of the Pixar "Toy
> Story" series--your favorite "Toy Story" characters will all be present
> (but I don't think Tom Hanks or Tim Allen will be doing voices):
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nfl-disney-toy-story-animated-game-telecast-1235587299/
>
> The above includes a promo for the show, beginning with the familiar
> Monday NIght Football theme.
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[TV orNotTV] Are You Ready for Some 'Toy Story' Football?

2023-09-12 Thread Mark Jeffries 
on Sun. Oct. 1, while the Atlanta/Jacksonville NFL game from London 
televises on ESPN+ and the team markets OTA, a special live motion capture 
presentation on ESPN+ and Disney+ will present the game as it might be 
played by toys in the bedroom of Andy, the central home of the Pixar "Toy 
Story" series--your favorite "Toy Story" characters will all be present 
(but I don't think Tom Hanks or Tim Allen will be doing voices):

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nfl-disney-toy-story-animated-game-telecast-1235587299/

The above includes a promo for the show, beginning with the familiar Monday 
NIght Football theme.

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