Re: [TV orNotTV] Foxx Still Laid Up, Cannon to Fill In for Him on 'Beat Shazam'

[Jim Ellwanger]

It's a Hilton next to the 405, actually (formerly a Doubletree, and before that 
it was a Radisson). "Jeopardy!" also holds local contestant tryouts there on 
occasion. They don't validate parking for potential contestants (valet-only, 
and the nearest street parking is some distance away), but at my most recent 
tryout in 2022, at least I got some extra Hilton Honors points by paying for it 
with my Hilton AMEX card.


> On May 4, 2023, at 10:15 AM, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
> 
> It should be pointed out that U.S. game shows, with a few exceptions, do not 
> pay to fly in or put up contestants for a LA or New York recording. The best 
> "Jeopardy!" contestants get is a discount at the Marriott near the Sony lot 
> and the hotel's airport limo taking them over to the Trebek Stage and back.
> 
> And it is interesting that "The Wall" in the U.S. is still going without 
> audiences, but instead of the hack sweetener Christian Shrader, they've 
> called upon Sonofans, the "immersive crowd performance sound system" company 
> that provided crowd noise for sports teams and Fox Sports during the 
> pandemic.  This article from a sound trade mag explains what they do, which 
> they swear up-and-down is not "canned," even though everyone else says it is:
> 
> https://www.sonofans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/LS2101_Sonofans-Final.pdf
> 
> Mark Jeffries
> spotligh...@gmail.com 
> 
> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:50 AM Adam Bowie  > wrote:
>> 
>> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 4:18 PM Mark Jeffries > > wrote:
>>> 
>>> And as to why Ireland, it's either because facilities in the U.S. are still 
>>> being taken up by Peak TV or they're trying to save money (even if they 
>>> have to fly contestants from the U.S. and put them up in a hotel, since 
>>> there aren't enough U.S. expats in Ireland in the key demos who want to be 
>>> contestants).
>> 
>> It's surely just a money thing. 
>> 
>> While Ireland does offer some significant tax credits to productions - 
>> 32%-34% according to https://www.screenireland.ie/filming/section-481 - I 
>> can't see that a US gameshow fits into any of their categories. But I just 
>> bet that hiring out a big studio with all the lights and cameras in place 
>> makes economic sense. Hosts and contestants were going to need some 
>> accommodation anyway, and while it might be more to send someone from, say, 
>> Dallas to Dublin than Dallas to LA, the other cost savings may be more than 
>> big enough to make sense.
>> 
>> See also Ru Paul and Lingo being shot in Manchester (UK) rather than the US. 
>> In that instance there are added savings with the same set doing double-duty 
>> for the UK version, although Ru Paul only presents the primetime "celebrity" 
>> version in the UK with a different presenter doing the daytime one. And from 
>> what I can see, that UK celebrity version has now been cancelled. Again, 
>> while the UK offers significant tax breaks, they tend to be for dramas and 
>> children's shows, not game shows.
>> 
>> These multi-country productions make more sense when there's a really 
>> elaborate set. Wipeout/Total Wipeout had a massive fixed set in Argentina 
>> that many countries used, flying in presenters and contestants to shoot 
>> episodes for a couple of weeks before the next country took over. I remember 
>> once being in Iceland where I saw the national TV company promoting their  
>> upcoming Wipeout run.  A country of just 250,000 people would never have 
>> been able to produce a series like that on their own.
>> 
>> Similarly, many countries' versions of The Wall game show used a fixed set 
>> in Poland. The UK version definitely flew contestants and the presenter 
>> there. I was left wondering how they filled the audience with enough people 
>> who understood what was going on, could understand the language and had any 
>> interest whatsoever in proceedings...
>> 
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Foxx Still Laid Up, Cannon to Fill In for Him on 'Beat Shazam'

[Mark Jeffries]

It should be pointed out that U.S. game shows, with a few exceptions, do
not pay to fly in or put up contestants for a LA or New York recording. The
best "Jeopardy!" contestants get is a discount at the Marriott near the
Sony lot and the hotel's airport limo taking them over to the Trebek Stage
and back.

And it is interesting that "The Wall" in the U.S. is still going without
audiences, but instead of the hack sweetener Christian Shrader, they've
called upon Sonofans, the "immersive crowd performance sound system"
company that provided crowd noise for sports teams and Fox Sports during
the pandemic.  This article from a sound trade mag explains what they do,
which they swear up-and-down is not "canned," even though everyone else
says it is:

https://www.sonofans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/LS2101_Sonofans-Final.pdf

Mark Jeffries
spotligh...@gmail.com


On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:50 AM Adam Bowie  wrote:

>
> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 4:18 PM Mark Jeffries 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> And as to why Ireland, it's either because facilities in the U.S. are
>> still being taken up by Peak TV or they're trying to save money (even if
>> they have to fly contestants from the U.S. and put them up in a hotel,
>> since there aren't enough U.S. expats in Ireland in the key demos who want
>> to be contestants).
>>
>
> It's surely just a money thing.
>
> While Ireland does offer some significant tax credits to productions -
> 32%-34% according to https://www.screenireland.ie/filming/section-481 - I
> can't see that a US gameshow fits into any of their categories. But I just
> bet that hiring out a big studio with all the lights and cameras in place
> makes economic sense. Hosts and contestants were going to need some
> accommodation anyway, and while it might be more to send someone from, say,
> Dallas to Dublin than Dallas to LA, the other cost savings may be more than
> big enough to make sense.
>
> See also Ru Paul and Lingo being shot in Manchester (UK) rather than the
> US. In that instance there are added savings with the same set doing
> double-duty for the UK version, although Ru Paul only presents the
> primetime "celebrity" version in the UK with a different presenter doing
> the daytime one. And from what I can see, that UK celebrity version has now
> been cancelled. Again, while the UK offers significant tax breaks, they
> tend to be for dramas and children's shows, not game shows.
>
> These multi-country productions make more sense when there's a really
> elaborate set. Wipeout/Total Wipeout had a massive fixed set in Argentina
> that many countries used, flying in presenters and contestants to shoot
> episodes for a couple of weeks before the next country took over. I
> remember once being in Iceland where I saw the national TV company
> promoting their  upcoming Wipeout run.  A country of just 250,000 people
> would never have been able to produce a series like that on their own.
>
> Similarly, many countries' versions of The Wall game show used a fixed set
> in Poland. The UK version definitely flew contestants and the presenter
> there. I was left wondering how they filled the audience with enough people
> who understood what was going on, could understand the language and had any
> interest whatsoever in proceedings...
>
>
> Adam
>
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Foxx Still Laid Up, Cannon to Fill In for Him on 'Beat Shazam'

[Kevin M.]

For a while at least, the Ninja Warrior and Total Wipeout shows were not
being filmed in the US due to insurance/liability issues, but I think they
worked that out

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 9:26 AM Jim Ellwanger  wrote:

> Wasn't another reason for starting these expatriate productions so that
> they could get full audiences of people not wearing masks? U.S. audiences
> (at least in the Los Angeles area) were being required to wear masks until
> recently, due to the unions' Covid safety agreements with the studios.
>
>
> On May 4, 2023, at 8:50 AM, Adam Bowie  wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 4:18 PM Mark Jeffries 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> And as to why Ireland, it's either because facilities in the U.S. are
>> still being taken up by Peak TV or they're trying to save money (even if
>> they have to fly contestants from the U.S. and put them up in a hotel,
>> since there aren't enough U.S. expats in Ireland in the key demos who want
>> to be contestants).
>>
>
> It's surely just a money thing.
>
> While Ireland does offer some significant tax credits to productions -
> 32%-34% according to https://www.screenireland.ie/filming/section-481 - I
> can't see that a US gameshow fits into any of their categories. But I just
> bet that hiring out a big studio with all the lights and cameras in place
> makes economic sense. Hosts and contestants were going to need some
> accommodation anyway, and while it might be more to send someone from, say,
> Dallas to Dublin than Dallas to LA, the other cost savings may be more than
> big enough to make sense.
>
> See also Ru Paul and Lingo being shot in Manchester (UK) rather than the
> US. In that instance there are added savings with the same set doing
> double-duty for the UK version, although Ru Paul only presents the
> primetime "celebrity" version in the UK with a different presenter doing
> the daytime one. And from what I can see, that UK celebrity version has now
> been cancelled. Again, while the UK offers significant tax breaks, they
> tend to be for dramas and children's shows, not game shows.
>
> These multi-country productions make more sense when there's a really
> elaborate set. Wipeout/Total Wipeout had a massive fixed set in Argentina
> that many countries used, flying in presenters and contestants to shoot
> episodes for a couple of weeks before the next country took over. I
> remember once being in Iceland where I saw the national TV company
> promoting their  upcoming Wipeout run.  A country of just 250,000 people
> would never have been able to produce a series like that on their own.
>
> Similarly, many countries' versions of The Wall game show used a fixed set
> in Poland. The UK version definitely flew contestants and the presenter
> there. I was left wondering how they filled the audience with enough people
> who understood what was going on, could understand the language and had any
> interest whatsoever in proceedings...
>
>
> Adam
>
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Foxx Still Laid Up, Cannon to Fill In for Him on 'Beat Shazam'

[Jim Ellwanger]

Wasn't another reason for starting these expatriate productions so that they 
could get full audiences of people not wearing masks? U.S. audiences (at least 
in the Los Angeles area) were being required to wear masks until recently, due 
to the unions' Covid safety agreements with the studios.


> On May 4, 2023, at 8:50 AM, Adam Bowie  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 4:18 PM Mark Jeffries  > wrote:
>> 
>> And as to why Ireland, it's either because facilities in the U.S. are still 
>> being taken up by Peak TV or they're trying to save money (even if they have 
>> to fly contestants from the U.S. and put them up in a hotel, since there 
>> aren't enough U.S. expats in Ireland in the key demos who want to be 
>> contestants).
> 
> It's surely just a money thing. 
> 
> While Ireland does offer some significant tax credits to productions - 
> 32%-34% according to https://www.screenireland.ie/filming/section-481 - I 
> can't see that a US gameshow fits into any of their categories. But I just 
> bet that hiring out a big studio with all the lights and cameras in place 
> makes economic sense. Hosts and contestants were going to need some 
> accommodation anyway, and while it might be more to send someone from, say, 
> Dallas to Dublin than Dallas to LA, the other cost savings may be more than 
> big enough to make sense.
> 
> See also Ru Paul and Lingo being shot in Manchester (UK) rather than the US. 
> In that instance there are added savings with the same set doing double-duty 
> for the UK version, although Ru Paul only presents the primetime "celebrity" 
> version in the UK with a different presenter doing the daytime one. And from 
> what I can see, that UK celebrity version has now been cancelled. Again, 
> while the UK offers significant tax breaks, they tend to be for dramas and 
> children's shows, not game shows.
> 
> These multi-country productions make more sense when there's a really 
> elaborate set. Wipeout/Total Wipeout had a massive fixed set in Argentina 
> that many countries used, flying in presenters and contestants to shoot 
> episodes for a couple of weeks before the next country took over. I remember 
> once being in Iceland where I saw the national TV company promoting their  
> upcoming Wipeout run.  A country of just 250,000 people would never have been 
> able to produce a series like that on their own.
> 
> Similarly, many countries' versions of The Wall game show used a fixed set in 
> Poland. The UK version definitely flew contestants and the presenter there. I 
> was left wondering how they filled the audience with enough people who 
> understood what was going on, could understand the language and had any 
> interest whatsoever in proceedings...
> 
> 
> Adam
> 
>  
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Foxx Still Laid Up, Cannon to Fill In for Him on 'Beat Shazam'

[Adam Bowie]

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 4:18 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

>
> And as to why Ireland, it's either because facilities in the U.S. are
> still being taken up by Peak TV or they're trying to save money (even if
> they have to fly contestants from the U.S. and put them up in a hotel,
> since there aren't enough U.S. expats in Ireland in the key demos who want
> to be contestants).
>

It's surely just a money thing.

While Ireland does offer some significant tax credits to productions -
32%-34% according to https://www.screenireland.ie/filming/section-481 - I
can't see that a US gameshow fits into any of their categories. But I just
bet that hiring out a big studio with all the lights and cameras in place
makes economic sense. Hosts and contestants were going to need some
accommodation anyway, and while it might be more to send someone from, say,
Dallas to Dublin than Dallas to LA, the other cost savings may be more than
big enough to make sense.

See also Ru Paul and Lingo being shot in Manchester (UK) rather than the
US. In that instance there are added savings with the same set doing
double-duty for the UK version, although Ru Paul only presents the
primetime "celebrity" version in the UK with a different presenter doing
the daytime one. And from what I can see, that UK celebrity version has now
been cancelled. Again, while the UK offers significant tax breaks, they
tend to be for dramas and children's shows, not game shows.

These multi-country productions make more sense when there's a really
elaborate set. Wipeout/Total Wipeout had a massive fixed set in Argentina
that many countries used, flying in presenters and contestants to shoot
episodes for a couple of weeks before the next country took over. I
remember once being in Iceland where I saw the national TV company
promoting their  upcoming Wipeout run.  A country of just 250,000 people
would never have been able to produce a series like that on their own.

Similarly, many countries' versions of The Wall game show used a fixed set
in Poland. The UK version definitely flew contestants and the presenter
there. I was left wondering how they filled the audience with enough people
who understood what was going on, could understand the language and had any
interest whatsoever in proceedings...


Adam

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[TV orNotTV] Foxx Still Laid Up, Cannon to Fill In for Him on 'Beat Shazam'

[Mark Jeffries]

Jamie Foxx has been in an undisclosed hospital for undisclosed reasons 
since Apr. 12, while he was making a film for Netflix in Atlanta--since it 
seems as though his Fox game show "Beat Shazam" was shooting for its annual 
summer run in Ireland, NIck Cannon will fill in for him for this year's run 
starting May 23 (and the studio in Ireland will then house Niecy Nash and 
the second season of the reboot of "Don't Forget the Lyrics!", which will 
also premiere on May 23):

https://www.thewrap.com/jamie-foxx-hospitalized-instagram-post/?utm_source=newsletter_medium=email_campaign=breaking_news_7258830

For the record, Foxx's daughter Corrine will not be acting as sidekick and 
"DJ" this season, with Kelly Osbourne taking her place, so Nick Cannon 
procreation jokes will be welcome.

And as to why Ireland, it's either because facilities in the U.S. are still 
being taken up by Peak TV or they're trying to save money (even if they 
have to fly contestants from the U.S. and put them up in a hotel, since 
there aren't enough U.S. expats in Ireland in the key demos who want to be 
contestants).

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