Re: [TV orNotTV] SNL Fail

[Melissa P]

Thanks!

On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 7:41 PM Jim Ellwanger  wrote:

> "The $100,000 Pyramid" is set for Wednesday nights beginning June 9th.
>
> https://www.tvinsider.com/994128/abc-summer-2021-tv-schedule-premieres/
>
>
> On Apr 18, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Melissa P  wrote:
>
> Just wanted to let you know that Jim was correct (not surprised).
>
> The episode still hasn't aired.
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 9:37 PM Melissa P 
> wrote:
>
>> That makes sense.  It's been noted that HWCNBN and Mr. Strahan share a
>> dislike for a certain morning talk show host.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 7:14 PM Jim Ellwanger 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Melissa P 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Finally, back to quarantining.  HWCNBN recently said that he did "the
>>> quarantine thing" (two weeks) in August in New York for a game show.
>>> Anyone know which game shows filmed in NYC in August?
>>>
>>>
>>> My guess would be "$100,000 Pyramid":
>>> https://deadline.com/2020/08/the-10-pyramid-back-to-studio-abc-1203006568/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

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Re: [TV orNotTV] SNL Fail

[Jim Ellwanger]

"The $100,000 Pyramid" is set for Wednesday nights beginning June 9th.

https://www.tvinsider.com/994128/abc-summer-2021-tv-schedule-premieres/ 



> On Apr 18, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Melissa P  wrote:
> 
> Just wanted to let you know that Jim was correct (not surprised).
> 
> The episode still hasn't aired.
> 
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 9:37 PM Melissa P  > wrote:
> That makes sense.  It's been noted that HWCNBN and Mr. Strahan share a 
> dislike for a certain morning talk show host.
> 
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 7:14 PM Jim Ellwanger  > wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Melissa P > > wrote:
>> 
>> Finally, back to quarantining.  HWCNBN recently said that he did "the 
>> quarantine thing" (two weeks) in August in New York for a game show.  Anyone 
>> know which game shows filmed in NYC in August?
> 
> My guess would be "$100,000 Pyramid": 
> https://deadline.com/2020/08/the-10-pyramid-back-to-studio-abc-1203006568/
>  
> 
> 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] SNL Fail

[Melissa P]

Just wanted to let you know that Jim was correct (not surprised).

The episode still hasn't aired.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 9:37 PM Melissa P 
wrote:

> That makes sense.  It's been noted that HWCNBN and Mr. Strahan share a
> dislike for a certain morning talk show host.
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 7:14 PM Jim Ellwanger 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Melissa P 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Finally, back to quarantining.  HWCNBN recently said that he did "the
>> quarantine thing" (two weeks) in August in New York for a game show.
>> Anyone know which game shows filmed in NYC in August?
>>
>>
>> My guess would be "$100,000 Pyramid":
>> https://deadline.com/2020/08/the-10-pyramid-back-to-studio-abc-1203006568/
>>
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] SNL Fail

[Melissa P]

That makes sense.  It's been noted that HWCNBN and Mr. Strahan share a
dislike for a certain morning talk show host.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 7:14 PM Jim Ellwanger  wrote:

>
>
> On Oct 19, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Melissa P  wrote:
>
> Finally, back to quarantining.  HWCNBN recently said that he did "the
> quarantine thing" (two weeks) in August in New York for a game show.
> Anyone know which game shows filmed in NYC in August?
>
>
> My guess would be "$100,000 Pyramid":
> https://deadline.com/2020/08/the-10-pyramid-back-to-studio-abc-1203006568/
>
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] SNL Fail

[Jim Ellwanger]

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Melissa P  wrote:
> 
> Finally, back to quarantining.  HWCNBN recently said that he did "the 
> quarantine thing" (two weeks) in August in New York for a game show.  Anyone 
> know which game shows filmed in NYC in August?

My guess would be "$100,000 Pyramid": 
https://deadline.com/2020/08/the-10-pyramid-back-to-studio-abc-1203006568/ 



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Re: [TV orNotTV] SNL Fail

[Melissa P]

I had some luck one evening quite a few years ago.  I was on one of my
usual trips to Hollywood to see shows, and one of those shows was
Kimmel's.  Musical guest that evening:  a not-yet-superstar Adele, who
played and sang several songs in the theater lobby.  Did not yet realize
that I was in the presence of greatness.

Speaking of attending shows, I had the great pleasure of watching Conchata
Ferrell several times -- both on the set of Hearts Afire (where she played
different characters in different seasons) and Two and a Half Men.  I could
always spot her husband and sometimes her daughter in the audience.

Finally, back to quarantining.  HWCNBN recently said that he did "the
quarantine thing" (two weeks) in August in New York for a game show.
Anyone know which game shows filmed in NYC in August?


On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 1:57 PM Joe Hass  wrote:

> You may safely assume that my lack of watching SNL live would be reason I
> would be in error, and I'm actually appreciative of the correction, or I
> really *would* have shown up at 10:32.
>
> She lives in England, and given the way she wrote her Instagram post (as
> though this was something she really wanted to try to do), it would not
> surprise me in the least if she did the quarantine thing and holed up
> somewhere in NYC.
>
> Given how much weight she's reportedly lost, I think she figures "coming
> out" in the US is a much lower risk than trying to do it in a
> tabloid-hungry UK.
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 12:46 Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
>
>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Joe Hass  wrote:
>> >
>> > Suffice to say I shall be on my Locast at 10:35.
>>
>> "SNL" never got moved to :35 the way the weeknight late-night shows did
>> back in the early 1990s, so it still starts at 11:30 Eastern -- or are you
>> saying that the "dueling town halls" bit made you entirely give up on
>> watching cold open sketches?
>>
>> Assuming Adele isn't hosting via Zoom, does this mean she's currently
>> living in the U.S.? Or that the "SNL" promotion is so valuable that she's
>> been complying with whatever quarantine situation has been necessary to
>> allow her onto the stage this week?
>>
>>

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Re: [TV orNotTV] SNL Fail

[Joe Hass]

You may safely assume that my lack of watching SNL live would be reason I
would be in error, and I'm actually appreciative of the correction, or I
really *would* have shown up at 10:32.

She lives in England, and given the way she wrote her Instagram post (as
though this was something she really wanted to try to do), it would not
surprise me in the least if she did the quarantine thing and holed up
somewhere in NYC.

Given how much weight she's reportedly lost, I think she figures "coming
out" in the US is a much lower risk than trying to do it in a
tabloid-hungry UK.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 12:46 Jim Ellwanger  wrote:

> On Oct 19, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Joe Hass  wrote:
> >
> > Suffice to say I shall be on my Locast at 10:35.
>
> "SNL" never got moved to :35 the way the weeknight late-night shows did
> back in the early 1990s, so it still starts at 11:30 Eastern -- or are you
> saying that the "dueling town halls" bit made you entirely give up on
> watching cold open sketches?
>
> Assuming Adele isn't hosting via Zoom, does this mean she's currently
> living in the U.S.? Or that the "SNL" promotion is so valuable that she's
> been complying with whatever quarantine situation has been necessary to
> allow her onto the stage this week?
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Re: [TV orNotTV] SNL Fail

[Jim Ellwanger]

On Oct 19, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Joe Hass  wrote:
> 
> Suffice to say I shall be on my Locast at 10:35.

"SNL" never got moved to :35 the way the weeknight late-night shows did back in 
the early 1990s, so it still starts at 11:30 Eastern -- or are you saying that 
the "dueling town halls" bit made you entirely give up on watching cold open 
sketches?

Assuming Adele isn't hosting via Zoom, does this mean she's currently living in 
the U.S.? Or that the "SNL" promotion is so valuable that she's been complying 
with whatever quarantine situation has been necessary to allow her onto the 
stage this week?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] SNL Fail

[Joe Hass]

It is spectacularly unfair to remind me of Hartman and Hooks. It's like
asking me to watch baseball and go "Yeah, but remember Trammell and
Whitaker?" WELL I DO NOW, YA WEASEL, AND DO THESE PEOPLE SUCK ASS!

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 4:36 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> The problem isn't Carrey; his Biden actually isn't that bad, and he's more
> or less doing what the writers (ineptly) give him. The problem with the
> sketches (as with the rest of the show) is Michaels, who apparently wants
> his audience to think that if he portrays both men as being (in their own
> ways) equally undesirable, he can somehow avoid conservatives screaming
> that he's playing favorites. The right working the refs has worked
> particularly well on SNL
>
> This week's show set new low standards for a show that always find deeper
> bottoms to the barrel (Rae's opening monologue was so bad that even the
> hyenas in the audience stayed mostly silent), but suffered especially from
> being aired in juxtaposition with the rerun from 1988, where every sketch
> ("Jew, Not a Jew," Hanks and Lovitz's losers on the make,
> and--especially--the Bush/Dukakis debate, with its "I can't believe I'm
> losing to this guy") landed--big time. It was also another great reminder
> (as if we needed it) of how great Phil Hartman and Jan Hooks were. My gosh,
> they could do anything.
>
> --Dave Sikula
>
> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 7:19:55 PM UTC-7 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It wasn't great. I think the problem is Jim Carrey. He seems to need
>> broad humor and he's not getting it with the Biden imitation.
>> Weekend Update was good.
>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 5:17 PM, PGage  wrote:
>>>
>>> They had one job this weekend, and it wasn’t to make fun of Trump or
>>> Biden. They’re only job was to skewer NBC News for cashing in on the Trump
>>> Town Hall. The cold open should not have recreated the dueling Tiwn Halls,
>>> it should somehow have parodied,  brutally, the meeting in which NBC
>>> executives decided to green light it.
>>>
>>> Of course they failed. There was one tepid joke on update, but nothing
>>> that really held NBC’s feet to the fire.
>>>
>>> And no, it doesn’t matter how tough Guthrie was on Trump, or how bad it
>>> made him look.
>>> --
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Re: [TV orNotTV] SNL Fail

[PGage]

Totally agree with all of this, and especially the contrast with that
Golden re-run. That Bush-Dukakis sketch is in my top 20 all time, Hartman
of course was a genius, and Jan Hooks is in my top 5 players of all time.



On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 2:36 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> The problem isn't Carrey; his Biden actually isn't that bad, and he's more
> or less doing what the writers (ineptly) give him. The problem with the
> sketches (as with the rest of the show) is Michaels, who apparently wants
> his audience to think that if he portrays both men as being (in their own
> ways) equally undesirable, he can somehow avoid conservatives screaming
> that he's playing favorites. The right working the refs has worked
> particularly well on SNL
>
> This week's show set new low standards for a show that always find deeper
> bottoms to the barrel (Rae's opening monologue was so bad that even the
> hyenas in the audience stayed mostly silent), but suffered especially from
> being aired in juxtaposition with the rerun from 1988, where every sketch
> ("Jew, Not a Jew," Hanks and Lovitz's losers on the make,
> and--especially--the Bush/Dukakis debate, with its "I can't believe I'm
> losing to this guy") landed--big time. It was also another great reminder
> (as if we needed it) of how great Phil Hartman and Jan Hooks were. My gosh,
> they could do anything.
>
> --Dave Sikula
>
> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 7:19:55 PM UTC-7 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It wasn't great. I think the problem is Jim Carrey. He seems to need
>> broad humor and he's not getting it with the Biden imitation.
>> Weekend Update was good.
>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 5:17 PM, PGage  wrote:
>>>
>>> They had one job this weekend, and it wasn’t to make fun of Trump or
>>> Biden. They’re only job was to skewer NBC News for cashing in on the Trump
>>> Town Hall. The cold open should not have recreated the dueling Tiwn Halls,
>>> it should somehow have parodied,  brutally, the meeting in which NBC
>>> executives decided to green light it.
>>>
>>> Of course they failed. There was one tepid joke on update, but nothing
>>> that really held NBC’s feet to the fire.
>>>
>>> And no, it doesn’t matter how tough Guthrie was on Trump, or how bad it
>>> made him look.
>>> --
>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] SNL Fail

['Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV]

The problem isn't Carrey; his Biden actually isn't that bad, and he's more 
or less doing what the writers (ineptly) give him. The problem with the 
sketches (as with the rest of the show) is Michaels, who apparently wants 
his audience to think that if he portrays both men as being (in their own 
ways) equally undesirable, he can somehow avoid conservatives screaming 
that he's playing favorites. The right working the refs has worked 
particularly well on SNL

This week's show set new low standards for a show that always find deeper 
bottoms to the barrel (Rae's opening monologue was so bad that even the 
hyenas in the audience stayed mostly silent), but suffered especially from 
being aired in juxtaposition with the rerun from 1988, where every sketch 
("Jew, Not a Jew," Hanks and Lovitz's losers on the make, 
and--especially--the Bush/Dukakis debate, with its "I can't believe I'm 
losing to this guy") landed--big time. It was also another great reminder 
(as if we needed it) of how great Phil Hartman and Jan Hooks were. My gosh, 
they could do anything.

--Dave Sikula

On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 7:19:55 PM UTC-7 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> It wasn't great. I think the problem is Jim Carrey. He seems to need broad 
> humor and he's not getting it with the Biden imitation.
> Weekend Update was good.
> On Oct 18, 2020, at 5:17 PM, PGage  wrote:
>>
>> They had one job this weekend, and it wasn’t to make fun of Trump or 
>> Biden. They’re only job was to skewer NBC News for cashing in on the Trump 
>> Town Hall. The cold open should not have recreated the dueling Tiwn Halls, 
>> it should somehow have parodied,  brutally, the meeting in which NBC 
>> executives decided to green light it. 
>>
>> Of course they failed. There was one tepid joke on update, but nothing 
>> that really held NBC’s feet to the fire. 
>>
>> And no, it doesn’t matter how tough Guthrie was on Trump, or how bad it 
>> made him look. 
>> -- 
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>
>>

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Re: [TV orNotTV] SNL Fail

[PGage]

They clearly have no idea what they are trying to do with Biden (Pray to
the gods old and new that they will have a lot of time to figure it out).
But as I say, any Cold Open they did that focused on either Biden or Trump
would be a fail.

I think Kevin is over stating the role that SNL, or any pop media, had on
electing Trump last cycle. Trump won because he is a White Nationalist, and
it turns out in 2016 there were, just barely, enough White Nationalists in
the country to elect him president. We will see in a little over two weeks
if that is still true.

Perhaps SNL has not had the backbone for some time to really hold up the
mirror to its corporate overlords, but I think at times like this, major
failures to do so should still be called out.

On Sun, 18 Oct 2020 at 7:19 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> It wasn't great. I think the problem is Jim Carrey. He seems to need broad
> humor and he's not getting it with the Biden imitation.
> Weekend Update was good.
> On Oct 18, 2020, at 5:17 PM, PGage  wrote:
>>
>> They had one job this weekend, and it wasn’t to make fun of Trump or
>> Biden. They’re only job was to skewer NBC News for cashing in on the Trump
>> Town Hall. The cold open should not have recreated the dueling Tiwn Halls,
>> it should somehow have parodied,  brutally, the meeting in which NBC
>> executives decided to green light it.
>>
>> Of course they failed. There was one tepid joke on update, but nothing
>> that really held NBC’s feet to the fire.
>>
>> And no, it doesn’t matter how tough Guthrie was on Trump, or how bad it
>> made him look.
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['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

 Yeah, I keep thinking Carrey is imitating Clint Eastwood.  I know Biden's 
'toughness' can be something to satirize, but I think Colbert's doing a better 
job of it than Carrey right now.
David

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 wrote:  
 
 It wasn't great. I think the problem is Jim Carrey. He seems to need broad 
humor and he's not getting it with the Biden imitation.
Weekend Update was good.
  

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Re: [TV orNotTV] SNL Fail

[Kevin M.]

SNL had Trump host... twice, I believe. They as much as anybody helped to
create the monster in office. So for anybody to expect them to hold anyone
else accountable for enabling the bastard is an exercise in futility.

On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 7:45 PM M-D November  wrote:

> Weekend Update did a slightly better job of holding the network
> accountable, noting that the network has “a type”:
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 10:19:55 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It wasn't great. I think the problem is Jim Carrey. He seems to need
>> broad humor and he's not getting it with the Biden imitation.
>> Weekend Update was good.
>> On Oct 18, 2020, at 5:17 PM, PGage  wrote:
>>>
>>> They had one job this weekend, and it wasn’t to make fun of Trump or
>>> Biden. They’re only job was to skewer NBC News for cashing in on the Trump
>>> Town Hall. The cold open should not have recreated the dueling Tiwn Halls,
>>> it should somehow have parodied,  brutally, the meeting in which NBC
>>> executives decided to green light it.
>>>
>>> Of course they failed. There was one tepid joke on update, but nothing
>>> that really held NBC’s feet to the fire.
>>>
>>> And no, it doesn’t matter how tough Guthrie was on Trump, or how bad it
>>> made him look.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] SNL Fail

[M-D November]

Weekend Update did a slightly better job of holding the network 
accountable, noting that the network has “a type”:



On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 10:19:55 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> It wasn't great. I think the problem is Jim Carrey. He seems to need broad 
> humor and he's not getting it with the Biden imitation.
> Weekend Update was good.
> On Oct 18, 2020, at 5:17 PM, PGage  wrote:
>>
>> They had one job this weekend, and it wasn’t to make fun of Trump or 
>> Biden. They’re only job was to skewer NBC News for cashing in on the Trump 
>> Town Hall. The cold open should not have recreated the dueling Tiwn Halls, 
>> it should somehow have parodied,  brutally, the meeting in which NBC 
>> executives decided to green light it. 
>>
>> Of course they failed. There was one tepid joke on update, but nothing 
>> that really held NBC’s feet to the fire. 
>>
>> And no, it doesn’t matter how tough Guthrie was on Trump, or how bad it 
>> made him look. 
>> -- 
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>>
>>

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Re: [TV orNotTV] SNL Fail

[Steve Timko]

It wasn't great. I think the problem is Jim Carrey. He seems to need broad 
humor and he's not getting it with the Biden imitation.
Weekend Update was good.

On Oct 18, 2020, 5:17 PM, at 5:17 PM, PGage  wrote:
>They had one job this weekend, and it wasn’t to make fun of Trump or
>Biden.
>They’re only job was to skewer NBC News for cashing in on the Trump
>Town
>Hall. The cold open should not have recreated the dueling Tiwn Halls,
>it
>should somehow have parodied,  brutally, the meeting in which NBC
>executives decided to green light it.
>
>Of course they failed. There was one tepid joke on update, but nothing
>that
>really held NBC’s feet to the fire.
>
>And no, it doesn’t matter how tough Guthrie was on Trump, or how bad it
>made him look.
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[TV orNotTV] SNL Fail

[PGage]

They had one job this weekend, and it wasn’t to make fun of Trump or Biden.
They’re only job was to skewer NBC News for cashing in on the Trump Town
Hall. The cold open should not have recreated the dueling Tiwn Halls, it
should somehow have parodied,  brutally, the meeting in which NBC
executives decided to green light it.

Of course they failed. There was one tepid joke on update, but nothing that
really held NBC’s feet to the fire.

And no, it doesn’t matter how tough Guthrie was on Trump, or how bad it
made him look.
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