Re: [TV orNotTV] TNG episode with "current" reference remains banned in UK and Ireland

2024-03-04 Thread Adam Bowie 
The BBC's airings - or lack of airings - of the episode are pretty clear,
and I think well known amongst British Trek fans. If you search old usenet
posts, you'll see plenty of discussion about it from the time. The BBC's
Genome site is easily searchable to find all episode airings.

TNG first aired in the UK on the BBC. But the last time the BBC had the
rights to TNG was in 2008, when they ended a weekly late-night re-run of
the series from the start. Here's the airdate details of that airing:

https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/b0080pcv

But the series had only run three times prior to that. It first ran in 1992
(two years after its first US broadcast which wasn't unusual at the time),
and later in 2002 and 2007. In each of those years, its early evening BBC2
broadcasts skipped the episode. You can again find all of this on the
Genome website which lists every airdate of every show aired by the BBC.

Plenty of other channels have aired TNG over the years in the UK, although
surprisingly, none is doing so right now. But back in the 90s, the episode
was released on VHS a few times, when retail tapes were available with
first two, and later four episodes per tape. Indeed, checking the dates, it
looks like you could buy the VHS of season 3 prior to the BBC actually
broadcasting it by several months! You had to rent episodes at Blockbuster,
if you didn't want to wait for the BBC airings. And the tapes very much
included The High Ground.

While I can't say what Sky did, they ran TNG fairly much non-stop for many
years. And while, even post The Good Friday Agreement, there were ongoing
concerns about anything destabilising an unsteady peace accord, I'm certain
that if the BBC was airing the episode by 2007, then Sky would have started
showing the episode too at some point.

These days, in the UK, I can stream the episode happily on either Netflix
or Paramount+, or buy the episode at Amazon/Google/Apple/wherever. And the
UK Blu Ray boxset remains available for purchase.

So "remains banned" wouldn't be accurate.


Adam

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 11:04 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> To be clear the state of the BBC, Sky, and RTE archives is so bad that
> nobody can confirm it didn’t eventually air. And there doesn’t seem to be
> any suppression of streaming the episode in the UK or Ireland.
>
> The more egregious statement is saying Mexican independence is an example
> of successful terrorism. The Napoleonic Wars and subsequent pushes for
> liberalization against an absolutist Spanish crown weakened Spain enough
> that they couldn’t hold on to their empire in Central and South America.
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 3:53 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> "The High Ground" (S3E12), written by Melinda Snodgrass, has Data at one
>> point noting an "Irish unification of 2024"... BBC hasn't shown it since an
>> ovemight in Sept 2007, and no one checked, at least for this article,
>> whether RTE carried it...
>>
>> https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/banned-star-trek-episode-promised-015619693.html
>>  (link)
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] TNG episode with "current" reference remains banned in UK and Ireland

2024-03-04 Thread Tom Wolper 
To be clear the state of the BBC, Sky, and RTE archives is so bad that
nobody can confirm it didn’t eventually air. And there doesn’t seem to be
any suppression of streaming the episode in the UK or Ireland.

The more egregious statement is saying Mexican independence is an example
of successful terrorism. The Napoleonic Wars and subsequent pushes for
liberalization against an absolutist Spanish crown weakened Spain enough
that they couldn’t hold on to their empire in Central and South America.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 3:53 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> "The High Ground" (S3E12), written by Melinda Snodgrass, has Data at one
> point noting an "Irish unification of 2024"... BBC hasn't shown it since an
> ovemight in Sept 2007, and no one checked, at least for this article,
> whether RTE carried it...
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/banned-star-trek-episode-promised-015619693.html
>  (link)
>
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[TV orNotTV] TNG episode with "current" reference remains banned in UK and Ireland

2024-03-04 Thread 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
"The High Ground" (S3E12), written by Melinda Snodgrass, has Data at one 
point noting an "Irish unification of 2024"... BBC hasn't shown it since an 
ovemight in Sept 2007, and no one checked, at least for this article, 
whether RTE carried it...
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/banned-star-trek-episode-promised-015619693.html
 (link)
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