[twitter-dev] Re: SSL Cert not working on a1.twimg.com
I haven't gotten a feedback yet. I might just cache the image on our server and show it https. Please let me know if there is a better solution. On Jul 12, 1:44 pm, Amir wrote: > Ok, but I am using REST api to pull tweets. I am using a https url for > the javascript call. But the images that are in the json data are not > https. IE7 throws this funny error saying "some resources on this page > is not secured would you like to still display them." I can search > replace in my loop but not sure if that is the best implementation. > Any thoughts? > > On Jul 12, 12:03 pm, John Adams wrote: > > > What the main site currently does is to provide SSL images directly from s3 > > when a user is on https and to provide images over our CDN (twimg.com) when > > using a non-ssl connection. > > > i.e.:https://s3.amazonaws.com/twitter_production/profile_images/64195496/I... > > > vs.http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/64195496/IMG_1875_normal.JPG > > > This may change in the future if we put a valid cert on twimg,com, though. > > > -j > > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Amir wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > We are trying to use https for twitter images but the certs seem to be > > > broken. > > > >https://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/517692382/box_normal.jpg > > > > Can someone confirm that is going to be fixed or if its already known > > > bug?
[twitter-dev] Re: SSL Cert not working on a1.twimg.com
Ok, but I am using REST api to pull tweets. I am using a https url for the javascript call. But the images that are in the json data are not https. IE7 throws this funny error saying "some resources on this page is not secured would you like to still display them." I can search replace in my loop but not sure if that is the best implementation. Any thoughts? On Jul 12, 12:03 pm, John Adams wrote: > What the main site currently does is to provide SSL images directly from s3 > when a user is on https and to provide images over our CDN (twimg.com) when > using a non-ssl connection. > > i.e.:https://s3.amazonaws.com/twitter_production/profile_images/64195496/I... > > vs.http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/64195496/IMG_1875_normal.JPG > > This may change in the future if we put a valid cert on twimg,com, though. > > -j > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Amir wrote: > > Hi, > > > We are trying to use https for twitter images but the certs seem to be > > broken. > > >https://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/517692382/box_normal.jpg > > > Can someone confirm that is going to be fixed or if its already known > > bug?
[twitter-dev] SSL Cert not working on a1.twimg.com
Hi, We are trying to use https for twitter images but the certs seem to be broken. https://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/517692382/box_normal.jpg Can someone confirm that is going to be fixed or if its already known bug?
[twitter-dev] Possible to get verified account status via API?
Hello, This would be useful to create celebrity leaderboard(s) in a game. Is it possible to get this information via the API? Amir
[twitter-dev] Re: post to twitter from iPhone app
On Dec 25, 2:12 pm, Raffi Krikorian wrote: > do you mean just an iphone twitter client? like Tweetie? No, I mean a library that one can use in say a game so that players can easily post their scores to twitter. Something like Facebook connect but for twitter. Amir > > On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Amir Michail wrote: > > Hello, > > > Is there a library that does this with a nice user interface? > > > Amir > > -- > Raffi Krikorian > Twitter Platform Teamhttp://twitter.com/raffi
[twitter-dev] post to twitter from iPhone app
Hello, Is there a library that does this with a nice user interface? Amir
[twitter-dev] Efficient way to get recent unsubscribers.
This would be a very useful addition to the API. You could use it in an app that automatically deletes your bad tweets to reduce the number of followers that unsubscribe. For example, you could specify that if two followers unsubscribe soon after you post a tweet, then delete that tweet. You could even take it further by specifying conditions on those followers (e.g., only count those with with at least 1000 followers). Any chance an efficient way to get recent unsubscribers would be added to the API?
Re: Is there a limit on how quickly an app can post updates?
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Chris Thomson wrote: > There's a limit of 1000 updates per day, per user (subject to change). > See: > http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/browse_thread/thread/19026c103592dc51/d9a24f381f656fe9?lnk=gst&q=1000#d9a24f381f656fe9 I ran into an hourly limit today. Amir > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Amir Michail wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm referring to public tweets here. >> >> I don't want to get my app bot twitter account banned... >> >> Amir > > > > >
Is there a limit on how quickly an app can post updates?
Hi, I'm referring to public tweets here. I don't want to get my app bot twitter account banned... Amir
Re: Is it ok to contact people with public tweets?
On Jan 30, 3:38 pm, Chad Etzel wrote: > As there are many people and bots that are doing exactly this as we > speak, I would tend to say "yes". The Creepiness-Factor(tm) is up to > you. Taking this further: * what if the bot simply asks "@someone What do you mean by singularity"? If this person replies publicly, then I suppose it is fair game for the app to make use of his/her reply to build a database as part of a specialized service. It may not be obvious to this person though that his/her reply will be used for someone else's benefit... * and what if it's not obvious that the question is even coming from a bot? is it still acceptable? Amir > > -Chad > > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Amir Michail wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I would like to have an app post public tweets to contact people (who > > probably don't know anything about the app) who are likely to know > > something specific. > > > For example, the app might do this to request information about the > > "singularity". > > > Is that an acceptable use of the API? > > > Amir
Is it ok to contact people with public tweets?
Hi, I would like to have an app post public tweets to contact people (who probably don't know anything about the app) who are likely to know something specific. For example, the app might do this to request information about the "singularity". Is that an acceptable use of the API? Amir
Why all Web 2.0 sites should be twitter apps.
Hi, Why should a Web 2.0 site that has nothing to do with microblogging be a twitter app? Putting aside twitter's viral marketing potential, I will focus instead on two key issues in Web 2.0 apps: (1) reducing spam/ inappropriate content; and (2) encouraging user contributions. (1) Reducing spam/inappropriate content Since twitter users have a reputation to preserve, they are unlikely to spam your site and/or submit inappropriate content. Moreover, filtering of inappropriate profile images is already done by twitter so you don't have to do it. Moreover, you could only allow contributions from users with at least some minimum number of followers to ensure that they have a reputation to preserve. (2) Encouraging user contributions Whenever users contribute content to your site, you can put their photo, name, twitter home page, bio, url alongside that content as a reward. So basically, the incentive to contribute quality content to your site is self-promotion. Amir
Will search API use authentication for rate limiting?
Hi, Are there any plans for this? Or should I use client-side search API requests? Amir
Read My Tweets has launched! Let the competition begin!
Hi, If you would like more people to read your tweets, give this a try: http://www.readmytweets.com Amir
Re: Read My Tweets launch imminent -- last minute advice?
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:28 PM, James Chivers wrote: > > Hey Amir, > > As Joe Random internet user, it's not overly clear what your app does > or how it works (plus any benefits it'll give me as a user) - maybe > worth dropping some intro blurbage on the frontpage? Is everyone familiar with a banner exchange? Maybe I can use that as a starting point for an explanation? Amir > > I just launched a very basic app but spent some time working out an > intro that I hope explains the service, however I appreciate that your > app is a little more complex than my bot :) > > Good luck with the launch! > > James > http://yarimashita.com > > On Jan 17, 7:58 pm, Christian Heilmann > wrote: >> Amir Michail wrote: >> > Hi, >> >> > I will probably launch Read My Tweets on Monday. Anything I should >> > improve before then? >> >> >http://www.readmytweets.com >> >> > Amir >> >> Make the signup process much bigger. >> >> 1) Follow readmytweets to get your password >> >> ... > > > > -- http://readmytweets.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail
Read My Tweets launch imminent -- last minute advice?
Hi, I will probably launch Read My Tweets on Monday. Anything I should improve before then? http://www.readmytweets.com Amir
post "countdown" as a way to promote an app
Hi, Posting an advertisement without the permission of the user is wrong. But what about a countdown? For example: "Post my stats to twitter after 5 moves. [reset countdown without posting]" Amir
How to get public timeline using search API?
Hi, This would be useful since the search API allows you to specify a language. Amir
Could you ban apps that lie about what people did?
Hi, Is there a place to report such apps? Could you also remove the lies from the search results? Amir
OAuth Closed Beta
Hi, Do we need to apply to participate in this closed beta? Amir
Getting 503 errors with search API
Hi, What would be reasonable usage for the search API? And if I need more, can I request more? I'm making the requests server-side without authentication. Amir
Don't ask for password & someone will think you stole it.
Hi, Since OAuth is not available yet, I've been asking people to enter their twitter usernames without asking for a password into http://readmytweets.com. But now someone thinks I might have stolen his twitter password since it was not required! http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=413345 Amir P.S. http://readmytweets.com has been much simplified and actually uses (weak) CAPTCHAs now instead of asking people to manually come up with reading check questions.
Re: http://readmytweets.com (CAPTCHA idea, feedback appreciated)
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Amir Michail wrote: > Hi, > > So I've been building the service that I described here: I should add that it does not ask for passwords. You can enter any twitter username to log in. The service will use OAuth when that becomes available. Note that this service has not launched yet and any data you enter during the testing period will almost certainly be deleted. Amir > > Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter. > http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/browse_thread/thread/c4820fbb9bb296d7 > > Any feedback would be appreciated: > > http://readmytweets.com > > Amir > > P.S. My use of the term CAPTCHA here is incorrect because users must > manually come up with "reading check" questions. There's nothing > automated about that. -- http://readmytweets.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail
http://readmytweets.com (CAPTCHA idea, feedback appreciated)
Hi, So I've been building the service that I described here: Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter. http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/browse_thread/thread/c4820fbb9bb296d7 Any feedback would be appreciated: http://readmytweets.com Amir P.S. My use of the term CAPTCHA here is incorrect because users must manually come up with "reading check" questions. There's nothing automated about that.
Re: Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 3:26 PM, DustyReagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> The way I understand it, you want to create a CAPTCHA that uses the >> twitter API. The CAPTCHA itself would be used anywhere someone needs a >> CAPTCHA. Like my websites email newsletter signup. So the point of the >> thing is to be and function as CAPTCHA. But instead of picking out >> kittens, or reading letters, people would see a few of my tweets. So, >> it's just one more spot to expose the user to my brand. >> >> Did I get that right Amir? > > I wasn't thinking of using it that way. I was thinking of this as > being a different use of CAPTCHAs that has nothing to do with > security. > > But sure, you can combine (security) CAPTCHAs with advertising. > > Amir BTW, I've been using the term "CAPTCHA" incorrectly. It stands for "Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart." What I describe here isn't automated. Users must submit a question to test comprehension of their tweet selection. But like a CAPTCHA, we want to make sure this is not a computer (or mindless clicking by a human). Amir > >> >> If so, it sounds cool. If I, as a developer, need to setup a CAPTCHA >> for whatever site I'm working on. It might as well be one that could >> help my brand. (Aka possibly gain my Twitter account more followers.) >> >> Dusty >> >> On Dec 8, 9:51 pm, "Amir Michail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Waitman Gobble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> > Well, if you're like me you don't really need any cheerleaders to >>> > fluff you up and get you going. I mean they're nice and all, but >>> > stubborn persistence regardless. >>> >>> > And besides, we'd not have much of this stuff if it weren't for some >>> > renegades with stubborn idears. You know, the Internet Cowboys. Guys >>> > who would crowbar their ways onto the rooftops of bank hi-rises just >>> > to set up satellite dishes and offer wireless internet when most >>> > people never even heard of broadband. Or rent a back hoe and chaw >>> > through public streets without permit to run copper. Back in the >>> > 1990's. Those types. Where would we be now? >>> >>> > The thing I'm missing in your proposal - I can't see the nookie. I >>> > mean, are users getting a higher quality of selection of tweets >>> > because you do the Turing exam? Or are they going to get more >>> > followers because you have a pool of twitters at the other end waiting >>> > for them? (because of the quality of feed). >>> >>> Suppose you have two twitter users who are each working on a web 2.0 >>> startup and would like to increase the number of their twitter >>> followers to better their chances of startup success. >>> >>> They could go to this service to increase their followers. >>> >>> So in using this service, they find each other. Even though they >>> don't necessarily want to increase the number of people they follow, >>> they might discover cool tweets that they would like to see anyway. >>> >>> And so they end up following each other, even though it was not their >>> intent to follow more people. >>> >>> Amir >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Not cutting, just trying to understand. >>> >>> > Waitman >>> >>> > On Dec 8, 7:11 pm, "Amir Michail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Waitman Gobble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >> > ... >>> >>> >> > Anyways, back to the original topic. >>> >>> >> > I don't understand WHERE these "Them" are going to submit. (re: >>> >> > original post). I guess that's what I'm missing. >>> >>> >> > Waitman >>> >>> >> At the service using the twitter API that I'm thinking of building. I >>> >> didn't realize this idea was so difficult to understand though. Maybe >>> >> I shouldn't even try... >>> >>> >> Amir >>> >>> >> > On Dec 8, 5:54 pm, Cameron Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >> >> It's because people who are new, or considered new due to few posts, >>> >> >> are >>> >> >> automatically put in the moderation queue. >>> >> >> spam, which I'm sure >>> >>> >> --http://b4utweet.comhttp://chatbotgame.comhttp://numbrosia.comhttp://t... >>> >>> --http://b4utweet.comhttp://chatbotgame.comhttp://numbrosia.comhttp://twitter.com/amichail >> >> >> > > > > -- > http://b4utweet.com > http://chatbotgame.com > http://numbrosia.com > http://twitter.com/amichail > -- http://b4utweet.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail
Re: Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 3:26 PM, DustyReagan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The way I understand it, you want to create a CAPTCHA that uses the > twitter API. The CAPTCHA itself would be used anywhere someone needs a > CAPTCHA. Like my websites email newsletter signup. So the point of the > thing is to be and function as CAPTCHA. But instead of picking out > kittens, or reading letters, people would see a few of my tweets. So, > it's just one more spot to expose the user to my brand. > > Did I get that right Amir? I wasn't thinking of using it that way. I was thinking of this as being a different use of CAPTCHAs that has nothing to do with security. But sure, you can combine (security) CAPTCHAs with advertising. Amir > > If so, it sounds cool. If I, as a developer, need to setup a CAPTCHA > for whatever site I'm working on. It might as well be one that could > help my brand. (Aka possibly gain my Twitter account more followers.) > > Dusty > > On Dec 8, 9:51 pm, "Amir Michail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Waitman Gobble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > Well, if you're like me you don't really need any cheerleaders to >> > fluff you up and get you going. I mean they're nice and all, but >> > stubborn persistence regardless. >> >> > And besides, we'd not have much of this stuff if it weren't for some >> > renegades with stubborn idears. You know, the Internet Cowboys. Guys >> > who would crowbar their ways onto the rooftops of bank hi-rises just >> > to set up satellite dishes and offer wireless internet when most >> > people never even heard of broadband. Or rent a back hoe and chaw >> > through public streets without permit to run copper. Back in the >> > 1990's. Those types. Where would we be now? >> >> > The thing I'm missing in your proposal - I can't see the nookie. I >> > mean, are users getting a higher quality of selection of tweets >> > because you do the Turing exam? Or are they going to get more >> > followers because you have a pool of twitters at the other end waiting >> > for them? (because of the quality of feed). >> >> Suppose you have two twitter users who are each working on a web 2.0 >> startup and would like to increase the number of their twitter >> followers to better their chances of startup success. >> >> They could go to this service to increase their followers. >> >> So in using this service, they find each other. Even though they >> don't necessarily want to increase the number of people they follow, >> they might discover cool tweets that they would like to see anyway. >> >> And so they end up following each other, even though it was not their >> intent to follow more people. >> >> Amir >> >> >> >> >> >> > Not cutting, just trying to understand. >> >> > Waitman >> >> > On Dec 8, 7:11 pm, "Amir Michail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Waitman Gobble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > ... >> >> >> > Anyways, back to the original topic. >> >> >> > I don't understand WHERE these "Them" are going to submit. (re: >> >> > original post). I guess that's what I'm missing. >> >> >> > Waitman >> >> >> At the service using the twitter API that I'm thinking of building. I >> >> didn't realize this idea was so difficult to understand though. Maybe >> >> I shouldn't even try... >> >> >> Amir >> >> >> > On Dec 8, 5:54 pm, Cameron Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> It's because people who are new, or considered new due to few posts, >> >> >> are >> >> >> automatically put in the moderation queue. >> >> >> spam, which I'm sure >> >> >> --http://b4utweet.comhttp://chatbotgame.comhttp://numbrosia.comhttp://t... >> >> --http://b4utweet.comhttp://chatbotgame.comhttp://numbrosia.comhttp://twitter.com/amichail > > > -- http://b4utweet.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail
Re: Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9 Dec 2008, at 18:41, Andrew Badera wrote: >> define huge. >> >> I'm not famous, but have almost 2000 followers. >> >> early adopters probably have an easier time accruing large numbers >> of followers, as do celebrities, but fame is certainly not a >> requirement. > > Absolutely. Be interesting, that's all it takes. And since everyone > deems interesting as something different it's not as hard as it > sounds. And huge is what you define it to be. If you're using Twitter > purely to get followers, IMHO you're not worth following. It's not a > popularity contest. > > If you feel the need to force it, are you really providing value to > others? > I think many of the "serious" twitter users are tweeting frequently because it is part of their job. They really do need the traffic that twitter drives to their web site. And so I think there's a real need for a service that helps you increase followers, especially ones who might actually find your tweets interesting. Amir > Speaking of popularity contests, my latest Twitter-based project is > currently in private(ish) beta. To check it out sign up to the > following Google Group for access details: > http://groups.google.com/group/twitorfit > - launching publicly at Twinterval on Monday. > > -Stut > >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > On 9 Dec 2008, at 18:04, Amir Michail wrote: >> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM, jstrellner >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> To me, this sounds like MLM, based off of twitter, just slightly >> >>> modified. If you want to go this route, why not just say, "if you >> >>> follow me, I'll follow you and we'll both get higher numbers. >> Maybe >> >>> you'll like what I have to say too." >> >> >> >> How do you do this without spamming a huge number of people? Why >> do >> >> you think many people would look at your twitter page to read >> such a >> >> message? >> > >> > In my experience the best way to get new followers is not to ask for >> > them, either directly or through using any service with the sole >> > purpose of allowing you to pimp yourself as worth following. If >> you're >> > worth following people will follow. It's then up to you whether you >> > reciprocate or not. Personally I look their last few pages and >> base my >> > decision on that. If I'm not interested in that then there's no >> value >> > in my following them. >> >> How many people has this worked for? From what I understand, people >> with a huge number of followers on twitter were already famous before >> using twitter. >> >> Amir >> >> > >> > But that's just the way I see it. >> > >> > -Stut >> > >> > -- >> > http://stut.net/ >> > http://twitter.com/stut >> > >> >>> >> >>> Honestly though, this completely misses the whole point of >> Twitter. >> >>> >> >>> On Dec 8, 7:51 pm, "Amir Michail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Waitman Gobble >> >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Well, if you're like me you don't really need any cheerleaders >> to >> >>>>> fluff you up and get you going. I mean they're nice and all, but >> >>>>> stubborn persistence regardless. >> >>>> >> >>>>> And besides, we'd not have much of this stuff if it weren't for >> >>>>> some >> >>>>> renegades with stubborn idears. You know, the Internet Cowboys. >> >>>>> Guys >> >>>>> who would crowbar their ways onto the rooftops of bank hi-rises >> >>>>> just >> >>>>> to set up satellite dishes and offer wireless internet when most >> >>>>> people never even heard of broadband. Or rent a back hoe and >> chaw >> >>>>> through public streets without permit to run copper. Back in the >> >>>>> 1990's. Those types. Where would we be now? >>
Re: Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Andrew Badera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > define huge. > > I'm not famous, but have almost 2000 followers. How did you accumulate this number? How many of them already knew you? How many people did you follow (without taking away subsequent "unfollows")? Amir > > early adopters probably have an easier time accruing large numbers of > followers, as do celebrities, but fame is certainly not a requirement. > > > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > On 9 Dec 2008, at 18:04, Amir Michail wrote: >> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM, jstrellner >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> To me, this sounds like MLM, based off of twitter, just slightly >> >>> modified. If you want to go this route, why not just say, "if you >> >>> follow me, I'll follow you and we'll both get higher numbers. Maybe >> >>> you'll like what I have to say too." >> >> >> >> How do you do this without spamming a huge number of people? Why do >> >> you think many people would look at your twitter page to read such a >> >> message? >> > >> > In my experience the best way to get new followers is not to ask for >> > them, either directly or through using any service with the sole >> > purpose of allowing you to pimp yourself as worth following. If you're >> > worth following people will follow. It's then up to you whether you >> > reciprocate or not. Personally I look their last few pages and base my >> > decision on that. If I'm not interested in that then there's no value >> > in my following them. >> >> How many people has this worked for? From what I understand, people >> with a huge number of followers on twitter were already famous before >> using twitter. >> >> Amir >> >> > >> > But that's just the way I see it. >> > >> > -Stut >> > >> > -- >> > http://stut.net/ >> > http://twitter.com/stut >> > >> >>> >> >>> Honestly though, this completely misses the whole point of Twitter. >> >>> >> >>> On Dec 8, 7:51 pm, "Amir Michail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Waitman Gobble >> >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Well, if you're like me you don't really need any cheerleaders to >> >>>>> fluff you up and get you going. I mean they're nice and all, but >> >>>>> stubborn persistence regardless. >> >>>> >> >>>>> And besides, we'd not have much of this stuff if it weren't for >> >>>>> some >> >>>>> renegades with stubborn idears. You know, the Internet Cowboys. >> >>>>> Guys >> >>>>> who would crowbar their ways onto the rooftops of bank hi-rises >> >>>>> just >> >>>>> to set up satellite dishes and offer wireless internet when most >> >>>>> people never even heard of broadband. Or rent a back hoe and chaw >> >>>>> through public streets without permit to run copper. Back in the >> >>>>> 1990's. Those types. Where would we be now? >> >>>> >> >>>>> The thing I'm missing in your proposal - I can't see the nookie. I >> >>>>> mean, are users getting a higher quality of selection of tweets >> >>>>> because you do the Turing exam? Or are they going to get more >> >>>>> followers because you have a pool of twitters at the other end >> >>>>> waiting >> >>>>> for them? (because of the quality of feed). >> >>>> >> >>>> Suppose you have two twitter users who are each working on a web 2.0 >> >>>> startup and would like to increase the number of their twitter >> >>>> followers to better their chances of startup success. >> >>>> >> >>>> They could go to this service to increase their followers. >> >>>> >> >>>> So in using this service, they find each other. Even though they >> >>>> don't necessari
Re: Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9 Dec 2008, at 18:04, Amir Michail wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM, jstrellner >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> To me, this sounds like MLM, based off of twitter, just slightly >>> modified. If you want to go this route, why not just say, "if you >>> follow me, I'll follow you and we'll both get higher numbers. Maybe >>> you'll like what I have to say too." >> >> How do you do this without spamming a huge number of people? Why do >> you think many people would look at your twitter page to read such a >> message? > > In my experience the best way to get new followers is not to ask for > them, either directly or through using any service with the sole > purpose of allowing you to pimp yourself as worth following. If you're > worth following people will follow. It's then up to you whether you > reciprocate or not. Personally I look their last few pages and base my > decision on that. If I'm not interested in that then there's no value > in my following them. How many people has this worked for? From what I understand, people with a huge number of followers on twitter were already famous before using twitter. Amir > > But that's just the way I see it. > > -Stut > > -- > http://stut.net/ > http://twitter.com/stut > >>> >>> Honestly though, this completely misses the whole point of Twitter. >>> >>> On Dec 8, 7:51 pm, "Amir Michail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Waitman Gobble >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, if you're like me you don't really need any cheerleaders to >>>>> fluff you up and get you going. I mean they're nice and all, but >>>>> stubborn persistence regardless. >>>> >>>>> And besides, we'd not have much of this stuff if it weren't for >>>>> some >>>>> renegades with stubborn idears. You know, the Internet Cowboys. >>>>> Guys >>>>> who would crowbar their ways onto the rooftops of bank hi-rises >>>>> just >>>>> to set up satellite dishes and offer wireless internet when most >>>>> people never even heard of broadband. Or rent a back hoe and chaw >>>>> through public streets without permit to run copper. Back in the >>>>> 1990's. Those types. Where would we be now? >>>> >>>>> The thing I'm missing in your proposal - I can't see the nookie. I >>>>> mean, are users getting a higher quality of selection of tweets >>>>> because you do the Turing exam? Or are they going to get more >>>>> followers because you have a pool of twitters at the other end >>>>> waiting >>>>> for them? (because of the quality of feed). >>>> >>>> Suppose you have two twitter users who are each working on a web 2.0 >>>> startup and would like to increase the number of their twitter >>>> followers to better their chances of startup success. >>>> >>>> They could go to this service to increase their followers. >>>> >>>> So in using this service, they find each other. Even though they >>>> don't necessarily want to increase the number of people they follow, >>>> they might discover cool tweets that they would like to see anyway. >>>> >>>> And so they end up following each other, even though it was not >>>> their >>>> intent to follow more people. >>>> >>>> Amir >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Not cutting, just trying to understand. >>>> >>>>> Waitman >>>> >>>>> On Dec 8, 7:11 pm, "Amir Michail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Waitman Gobble >>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> ... >>>> >>>>>>> Anyways, back to the original topic. >>>> >>>>>>> I don't understand WHERE these "Them" are going to submit. (re: >>>>>>> original post). I guess that's what I'm missing. >>>> >>>>>>> Waitman >>>> >>>>>> At the service using the twitter API that I'm thinking of >>>>>> building. I >>>>>> didn't realize this idea was so difficult to understand though. >>>>>> Maybe >>>>>> I shouldn't even try... >>>> >>>>>> Amir >>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 8, 5:54 pm, Cameron Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>> It's because people who are new, or considered new due to few >>>>>>>> posts, are >>>>>>>> automatically put in the moderation queue. >>>>>>>> spam, which I'm sure >>>> >>>>>> --http://b4utweet.comhttp://chatbotgame.comhttp://numbrosia.comhttp >>>>>> ://t... >>>> >>>> --http://b4utweet.comhttp://chatbotgame.comhttp:// >>>> numbrosia.comhttp://twitter.com/amichail >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://b4utweet.com >> http://chatbotgame.com >> http://numbrosia.com >> http://twitter.com/amichail > > > > > -- http://b4utweet.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail
Re: Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM, jstrellner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To me, this sounds like MLM, based off of twitter, just slightly > modified. If you want to go this route, why not just say, "if you > follow me, I'll follow you and we'll both get higher numbers. Maybe > you'll like what I have to say too." How do you do this without spamming a huge number of people? Why do you think many people would look at your twitter page to read such a message? Amir > > Honestly though, this completely misses the whole point of Twitter. > > On Dec 8, 7:51 pm, "Amir Michail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Waitman Gobble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > Well, if you're like me you don't really need any cheerleaders to >> > fluff you up and get you going. I mean they're nice and all, but >> > stubborn persistence regardless. >> >> > And besides, we'd not have much of this stuff if it weren't for some >> > renegades with stubborn idears. You know, the Internet Cowboys. Guys >> > who would crowbar their ways onto the rooftops of bank hi-rises just >> > to set up satellite dishes and offer wireless internet when most >> > people never even heard of broadband. Or rent a back hoe and chaw >> > through public streets without permit to run copper. Back in the >> > 1990's. Those types. Where would we be now? >> >> > The thing I'm missing in your proposal - I can't see the nookie. I >> > mean, are users getting a higher quality of selection of tweets >> > because you do the Turing exam? Or are they going to get more >> > followers because you have a pool of twitters at the other end waiting >> > for them? (because of the quality of feed). >> >> Suppose you have two twitter users who are each working on a web 2.0 >> startup and would like to increase the number of their twitter >> followers to better their chances of startup success. >> >> They could go to this service to increase their followers. >> >> So in using this service, they find each other. Even though they >> don't necessarily want to increase the number of people they follow, >> they might discover cool tweets that they would like to see anyway. >> >> And so they end up following each other, even though it was not their >> intent to follow more people. >> >> Amir >> >> >> >> >> >> > Not cutting, just trying to understand. >> >> > Waitman >> >> > On Dec 8, 7:11 pm, "Amir Michail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Waitman Gobble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > ... >> >> >> > Anyways, back to the original topic. >> >> >> > I don't understand WHERE these "Them" are going to submit. (re: >> >> > original post). I guess that's what I'm missing. >> >> >> > Waitman >> >> >> At the service using the twitter API that I'm thinking of building. I >> >> didn't realize this idea was so difficult to understand though. Maybe >> >> I shouldn't even try... >> >> >> Amir >> >> >> > On Dec 8, 5:54 pm, Cameron Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> It's because people who are new, or considered new due to few posts, >> >> >> are >> >> >> automatically put in the moderation queue. >> >> >> spam, which I'm sure >> >> >> --http://b4utweet.comhttp://chatbotgame.comhttp://numbrosia.comhttp://t... >> >> --http://b4utweet.comhttp://chatbotgame.comhttp://numbrosia.comhttp://twitter.com/amichail > > > -- http://b4utweet.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail
Re: Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Waitman Gobble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Well, if you're like me you don't really need any cheerleaders to >> fluff you up and get you going. I mean they're nice and all, but >> stubborn persistence regardless. >> >> And besides, we'd not have much of this stuff if it weren't for some >> renegades with stubborn idears. You know, the Internet Cowboys. Guys >> who would crowbar their ways onto the rooftops of bank hi-rises just >> to set up satellite dishes and offer wireless internet when most >> people never even heard of broadband. Or rent a back hoe and chaw >> through public streets without permit to run copper. Back in the >> 1990's. Those types. Where would we be now? >> >> The thing I'm missing in your proposal - I can't see the nookie. I >> mean, are users getting a higher quality of selection of tweets >> because you do the Turing exam? Or are they going to get more >> followers because you have a pool of twitters at the other end waiting >> for them? (because of the quality of feed). > > Suppose you have two twitter users who are each working on a web 2.0 > startup and would like to increase the number of their twitter > followers to better their chances of startup success. > > They could go to this service to increase their followers. > > So in using this service, they find each other. Even though they > don't necessarily want to increase the number of people they follow, > they might discover cool tweets that they would like to see anyway. > > And so they end up following each other, even though it was not their > intent to follow more people. Of course, you could try following a huge number of people on twitter in the hope that some of them would follow you in return. But that might be seen as spamming. Moreover, these people probably won't look at your tweets seriously anyway (as there is no CAPTCHA), so they are unlikely to follow you. Amir > > Amir > >> >> Not cutting, just trying to understand. >> >> Waitman >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 8, 7:11 pm, "Amir Michail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Waitman Gobble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > ... >>> >>> > Anyways, back to the original topic. >>> >>> > I don't understand WHERE these "Them" are going to submit. (re: >>> > original post). I guess that's what I'm missing. >>> >>> > Waitman >>> >>> At the service using the twitter API that I'm thinking of building. I >>> didn't realize this idea was so difficult to understand though. Maybe >>> I shouldn't even try... >>> >>> Amir >>> >>> >>> >>> > On Dec 8, 5:54 pm, Cameron Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >> It's because people who are new, or considered new due to few posts, are >>> >> automatically put in the moderation queue. >>> >> spam, which I'm sure >>> >>> --http://b4utweet.comhttp://chatbotgame.comhttp://numbrosia.comhttp://twitter.com/amichail >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > http://b4utweet.com > http://chatbotgame.com > http://numbrosia.com > http://twitter.com/amichail > -- http://b4utweet.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail
Re: Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Waitman Gobble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, if you're like me you don't really need any cheerleaders to > fluff you up and get you going. I mean they're nice and all, but > stubborn persistence regardless. > > And besides, we'd not have much of this stuff if it weren't for some > renegades with stubborn idears. You know, the Internet Cowboys. Guys > who would crowbar their ways onto the rooftops of bank hi-rises just > to set up satellite dishes and offer wireless internet when most > people never even heard of broadband. Or rent a back hoe and chaw > through public streets without permit to run copper. Back in the > 1990's. Those types. Where would we be now? > > The thing I'm missing in your proposal - I can't see the nookie. I > mean, are users getting a higher quality of selection of tweets > because you do the Turing exam? Or are they going to get more > followers because you have a pool of twitters at the other end waiting > for them? (because of the quality of feed). Suppose you have two twitter users who are each working on a web 2.0 startup and would like to increase the number of their twitter followers to better their chances of startup success. They could go to this service to increase their followers. So in using this service, they find each other. Even though they don't necessarily want to increase the number of people they follow, they might discover cool tweets that they would like to see anyway. And so they end up following each other, even though it was not their intent to follow more people. Amir > > Not cutting, just trying to understand. > > Waitman > > > > > On Dec 8, 7:11 pm, "Amir Michail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Waitman Gobble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > ... >> >> > Anyways, back to the original topic. >> >> > I don't understand WHERE these "Them" are going to submit. (re: >> > original post). I guess that's what I'm missing. >> >> > Waitman >> >> At the service using the twitter API that I'm thinking of building. I >> didn't realize this idea was so difficult to understand though. Maybe >> I shouldn't even try... >> >> Amir >> >> >> >> > On Dec 8, 5:54 pm, Cameron Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> It's because people who are new, or considered new due to few posts, are >> >> automatically put in the moderation queue. >> >> spam, which I'm sure >> >> --http://b4utweet.comhttp://chatbotgame.comhttp://numbrosia.comhttp://twitter.com/amichail > > > > -- http://b4utweet.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail
Re: Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Waitman Gobble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... > > Anyways, back to the original topic. > > I don't understand WHERE these "Them" are going to submit. (re: > original post). I guess that's what I'm missing. > > Waitman > At the service using the twitter API that I'm thinking of building. I didn't realize this idea was so difficult to understand though. Maybe I shouldn't even try... Amir > > > > On Dec 8, 5:54 pm, Cameron Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It's because people who are new, or considered new due to few posts, are >> automatically put in the moderation queue. >> spam, which I'm sure > > > > -- http://b4utweet.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail
Re: Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Anthony Papillion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Personally, I think this would be worth building out to test. I don't > think you'd get *more* followers but there might be a higher > engagement rate with the people who do follow you. After all, they had > to go through extra trouble to follow you so they definately see value > in your tweets. They don't have to go through extra trouble to follow you. But those who would like more followers would use this service, thus giving you more followers if you participate as well. > > The question I have is how you would enforce this? > What do you mean? Amir > Anthony > > On 12/8/08, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm thinking of building this service using the twitter API: >> >> * you submit a selection of your tweets that you are particularly >> proud of >> >> * you also submit a CAPTCHA to check whether someone looking at your >> selection really looked at it carefully >> >> Example: such a CAPTCHA might ask the user to select the tweet in your >> selection that satisfies a particular criterion. >> >> Your tweet selection will be shown to k people provided that you >> correctly answer the CAPTCHAs in ~ k selections. >> >> You could have people use tags to facilitate search/browsing of tweet >> selections. Moreover, these tags could be used to improve a service >> such as http://b4utweet.com. >> >> Amir >> >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > > > -- http://b4utweet.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail
Re: Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Waitman Gobble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hmmm, i don't understand how a Turing exam based on comprehension > would get "more followers". it would likely get less. But maybe higher > IQ followers? ;-) > > Waitman > This would not be intended as an obstacle, but rather, as a way to "force" people into actually looking at the tweet selection. Amir > > > -- http://b4utweet.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail
Re: Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Julio Biason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:05 AM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The CAPTCHA is used to get people to look at your tweet selection >> carefully. Without it, people could just post their tweet selection >> and use a script to automatically look at other people's tweet >> selections. > > And how would you make people look at the tweet instead of the captcha? The idea is to have people submit a CAPTCHA that is directly connected to their tweet selection. For example, it might ask you to select the tweet that is most connected with a certain area of study. Or it might ask you to name the dominant theme in the tweet selection, etc. Amir > > Honestly, my opinion about it is: If you want do build it, do it. No > one here will stop you. > > -- > Julio Biason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/juliobiason > > > > -- http://b4utweet.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail
Re: Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Andrew Badera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Isn't that the point of Twitter to begin with? > Maybe the people you know. But I suspect that many users are thinking mostly about their followers. They want to advertise something. This mechanism allows you to advertise but for a price -- namely, that you look at other people's tweets as well. Amir > > > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Andrew Badera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > But what would be the motivation for someone to script this to begin >> > with? I >> > guess I'm having a hard time understanding the value proposition. >> > >> >> In order for your tweet selection to be shown to k people, you need to >> correctly answer the CAPTCHA for ~k tweet selections. >> >> This is all a mechanism to get people to look at each other's tweet >> selections. >> >> Amir >> >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Badera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > But then what are you enforcing with the CAPTCHA? Aren't you just >> >> > making >> >> > it >> >> > more difficult, more hurdles to leap, for people to engage with you? >> >> > >> >> >> >> The CAPTCHA is used to get people to look at your tweet selection >> >> carefully. Without it, people could just post their tweet selection >> >> and use a script to automatically look at other people's tweet >> >> selections. >> >> >> >> Amir >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Badera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > How would that get you MORE followers -- you're asking people to >> >> >> > read >> >> >> > your >> >> >> > tweets, then you check to see if they did? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> If they like your tweet selection, they might consider following >> >> >> you. >> >> >> >> >> >> Amir >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Andrew Badera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > ... and then? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > I'm thinking of jumping off the Empire State Building tomorrow >> >> >> >> > with >> >> >> >> > Jeb >> >> >> >> > Corliss ... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Beside the apparent randomness of your post, was there an >> >> >> >> > underlying >> >> >> >> > question? >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Do you think it would work? Is it worth building to try it out? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Amir >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Amir Michail >> >> >> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm thinking of building this service using the twitter API: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> * you submit a selection of your tweets that you are >> >> >> >> >> particularly >> >> >> >> >> proud of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> * you also submit a CAPTCHA to check whether someone looking >> >> >> >> >> at >> >> >> >> >> your >> >> >> >> >> selection really looked at it carefully >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Example: such a CAPTCHA might ask the user to select the tweet >> >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> your >> >> >> >> >> selection that satisfies a particular criterion. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Your tweet selection will be shown to k people provided that >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> correctly answer the CAPTCHAs in ~ k selections. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You could have people use tags to facilitate search/browsing >> >> >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> >> tweet >> >> >> >> >> selections. Moreover, these tags could be used to improve a >> >> >> >> >> service >> >> >> >> >> such as http://b4utweet.com. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Amir >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> http://b4utweet.com >> >> >> >> http://chatbotgame.com >> >> >> >> http://numbrosia.com >> >> >> >> http://twitter.com/amichail >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> http://b4utweet.com >> >> >> http://chatbotgame.com >> >> >> http://numbrosia.com >> >> >> http://twitter.com/amichail >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://b4utweet.com >> >> http://chatbotgame.com >> >> http://numbrosia.com >> >> http://twitter.com/amichail >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> http://b4utweet.com >> http://chatbotgame.com >> http://numbrosia.com >> http://twitter.com/amichail > > > > > -- http://b4utweet.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail
Re: Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Andrew Badera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But what would be the motivation for someone to script this to begin with? I > guess I'm having a hard time understanding the value proposition. > In order for your tweet selection to be shown to k people, you need to correctly answer the CAPTCHA for ~k tweet selections. This is all a mechanism to get people to look at each other's tweet selections. Amir > > > > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Badera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > But then what are you enforcing with the CAPTCHA? Aren't you just making >> > it >> > more difficult, more hurdles to leap, for people to engage with you? >> > >> >> The CAPTCHA is used to get people to look at your tweet selection >> carefully. Without it, people could just post their tweet selection >> and use a script to automatically look at other people's tweet >> selections. >> >> Amir >> >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Badera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > How would that get you MORE followers -- you're asking people to read >> >> > your >> >> > tweets, then you check to see if they did? >> >> > >> >> >> >> If they like your tweet selection, they might consider following you. >> >> >> >> Amir >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Andrew Badera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > ... and then? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I'm thinking of jumping off the Empire State Building tomorrow >> >> >> > with >> >> >> > Jeb >> >> >> > Corliss ... >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Beside the apparent randomness of your post, was there an >> >> >> > underlying >> >> >> > question? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Do you think it would work? Is it worth building to try it out? >> >> >> >> >> >> Amir >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm thinking of building this service using the twitter API: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> * you submit a selection of your tweets that you are particularly >> >> >> >> proud of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> * you also submit a CAPTCHA to check whether someone looking at >> >> >> >> your >> >> >> >> selection really looked at it carefully >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Example: such a CAPTCHA might ask the user to select the tweet in >> >> >> >> your >> >> >> >> selection that satisfies a particular criterion. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Your tweet selection will be shown to k people provided that you >> >> >> >> correctly answer the CAPTCHAs in ~ k selections. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You could have people use tags to facilitate search/browsing of >> >> >> >> tweet >> >> >> >> selections. Moreover, these tags could be used to improve a >> >> >> >> service >> >> >> >> such as http://b4utweet.com. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Amir >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> http://b4utweet.com >> >> >> http://chatbotgame.com >> >> >> http://numbrosia.com >> >> >> http://twitter.com/amichail >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://b4utweet.com >> >> http://chatbotgame.com >> >> http://numbrosia.com >> >> http://twitter.com/amichail >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> http://b4utweet.com >> http://chatbotgame.com >> http://numbrosia.com >> http://twitter.com/amichail > > > > > -- http://b4utweet.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail
Re: Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Andrew Badera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But then what are you enforcing with the CAPTCHA? Aren't you just making it > more difficult, more hurdles to leap, for people to engage with you? > The CAPTCHA is used to get people to look at your tweet selection carefully. Without it, people could just post their tweet selection and use a script to automatically look at other people's tweet selections. Amir > > > > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Badera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > How would that get you MORE followers -- you're asking people to read >> > your >> > tweets, then you check to see if they did? >> > >> >> If they like your tweet selection, they might consider following you. >> >> Amir >> >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Andrew Badera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > ... and then? >> >> > >> >> > I'm thinking of jumping off the Empire State Building tomorrow with >> >> > Jeb >> >> > Corliss ... >> >> > >> >> > Beside the apparent randomness of your post, was there an underlying >> >> > question? >> >> > >> >> >> >> Do you think it would work? Is it worth building to try it out? >> >> >> >> Amir >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm thinking of building this service using the twitter API: >> >> >> >> >> >> * you submit a selection of your tweets that you are particularly >> >> >> proud of >> >> >> >> >> >> * you also submit a CAPTCHA to check whether someone looking at your >> >> >> selection really looked at it carefully >> >> >> >> >> >> Example: such a CAPTCHA might ask the user to select the tweet in >> >> >> your >> >> >> selection that satisfies a particular criterion. >> >> >> >> >> >> Your tweet selection will be shown to k people provided that you >> >> >> correctly answer the CAPTCHAs in ~ k selections. >> >> >> >> >> >> You could have people use tags to facilitate search/browsing of >> >> >> tweet >> >> >> selections. Moreover, these tags could be used to improve a service >> >> >> such as http://b4utweet.com. >> >> >> >> >> >> Amir >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> http://b4utweet.com >> >> http://chatbotgame.com >> >> http://numbrosia.com >> >> http://twitter.com/amichail >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> http://b4utweet.com >> http://chatbotgame.com >> http://numbrosia.com >> http://twitter.com/amichail > > > > > -- http://b4utweet.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail
Re: Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Badera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How would that get you MORE followers -- you're asking people to read your > tweets, then you check to see if they did? > If they like your tweet selection, they might consider following you. Amir > > > > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Andrew Badera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > ... and then? >> > >> > I'm thinking of jumping off the Empire State Building tomorrow with Jeb >> > Corliss ... >> > >> > Beside the apparent randomness of your post, was there an underlying >> > question? >> > >> >> Do you think it would work? Is it worth building to try it out? >> >> Amir >> >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I'm thinking of building this service using the twitter API: >> >> >> >> * you submit a selection of your tweets that you are particularly >> >> proud of >> >> >> >> * you also submit a CAPTCHA to check whether someone looking at your >> >> selection really looked at it carefully >> >> >> >> Example: such a CAPTCHA might ask the user to select the tweet in your >> >> selection that satisfies a particular criterion. >> >> >> >> Your tweet selection will be shown to k people provided that you >> >> correctly answer the CAPTCHAs in ~ k selections. >> >> >> >> You could have people use tags to facilitate search/browsing of tweet >> >> selections. Moreover, these tags could be used to improve a service >> >> such as http://b4utweet.com. >> >> >> >> Amir >> >> >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> http://b4utweet.com >> http://chatbotgame.com >> http://numbrosia.com >> http://twitter.com/amichail > > > > > -- http://b4utweet.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail
Re: Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Andrew Badera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... and then? > > I'm thinking of jumping off the Empire State Building tomorrow with Jeb > Corliss ... > > Beside the apparent randomness of your post, was there an underlying > question? > Do you think it would work? Is it worth building to try it out? Amir > > > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm thinking of building this service using the twitter API: >> >> * you submit a selection of your tweets that you are particularly >> proud of >> >> * you also submit a CAPTCHA to check whether someone looking at your >> selection really looked at it carefully >> >> Example: such a CAPTCHA might ask the user to select the tweet in your >> selection that satisfies a particular criterion. >> >> Your tweet selection will be shown to k people provided that you >> correctly answer the CAPTCHAs in ~ k selections. >> >> You could have people use tags to facilitate search/browsing of tweet >> selections. Moreover, these tags could be used to improve a service >> such as http://b4utweet.com. >> >> Amir >> > > > > > -- http://b4utweet.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail
Using CAPTCHAs to get more followers on twitter.
Hi, I'm thinking of building this service using the twitter API: * you submit a selection of your tweets that you are particularly proud of * you also submit a CAPTCHA to check whether someone looking at your selection really looked at it carefully Example: such a CAPTCHA might ask the user to select the tweet in your selection that satisfies a particular criterion. Your tweet selection will be shown to k people provided that you correctly answer the CAPTCHAs in ~ k selections. You could have people use tags to facilitate search/browsing of tweet selections. Moreover, these tags could be used to improve a service such as http://b4utweet.com. Amir
Re: Why is authentication required to get follower info?
On Dec 4, 3:46 pm, "Alex Payne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yup! > But why? Is this done to encourage more people to sign up? Amir > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:39, Chad Etzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> On Nov 21, 6:41 pm, "Alex Payne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Please see the documentation > >> > athttp://apiwiki.twitter.com/REST+API+Documentation. You need to > >> > provide HTTP Basic Auth credentials when requesting thefollowersof > >> > another user. > > >> But why? > > >> Amir > > > I'm guessing because this mimics the behavior of the twitter website > > itself. You cannot see another person's followers-list without being logged > > into your account first. > > My $0.02, > > -Chad > > >> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 15:31, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > Hi, > > >> > > curlhttp://twitter.com/statuses/followers/amichail.rss > > >> > > yields > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > /statuses/followers/amichail.rss > >> > > Could not authenticate you. > >> > > > > >> > > Amir > > >> > -- > >> > Alex Payne - API Lead, Twitter, Inc.http://twitter.com/al3x > > -- > Alex Payne - API Lead, Twitter, Inc.http://twitter.com/al3x
Re: Search API feature request: follows:username
On Dec 4, 12:44 pm, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You could implement this in the following way. > > 1. get all the follows of "techcrunch" > 2. search for the keyword you want, saying "from: username1 OR > username2 OR ... usernameN" Unfortunately that sort of query can be very slow even with only a few from:'s. Amir > > an example > > http://search.twitter.com/search?q=github+from%3Alebreeze+OR+matthewrudy > > shows all the tweets about github from myself and my friend Levent. > > Although with 32000 usernames I imagine it wont be fast, > and you'd have to iterate over 320 requests to /statuses/followers.xml > in order to grab all their usernames.
Re: Why is authentication required to get follower info?
On Nov 21, 6:41 pm, "Alex Payne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please see the documentation > athttp://apiwiki.twitter.com/REST+API+Documentation. You need to > provide HTTP Basic Auth credentials when requesting thefollowersof > another user. > But why? Amir > > > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 15:31, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > curlhttp://twitter.com/statuses/followers/amichail.rss > > > yields > > > > > > > /statuses/followers/amichail.rss > > Could not authenticate you. > > > > > Amir > > -- > Alex Payne - API Lead, Twitter, Inc.http://twitter.com/al3x
Re: Search API feature request: follows:username
On Dec 2, 1:38 pm, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 2, 1:33 pm, Matt Sanford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi Amir, > > > This is something we've talked about internally for some time. > > Please open a ticket athttp://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issuesso > > we can track your request. > > Done: > > http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=172 > > Amir So it has been categorized as "WontFix" because it is not an API issue. Could you please work on it? It would be really helpful for a service I am building: http://b4utweet.com. Amir > > > > > Thanks; > > — Matt Sanford (@mzsanford) > > > On Dec 2, 2008, at 10:31 AM, Amir Michail wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I would like to be able to issue queries like this: > > > > web 2.0 follows:techcrunch > > > > This would identify tweets containing web 2.0 posted by people > > > following techcrunch. > > > > Amir
Re: Search API feature request: follows:username
On Dec 2, 1:33 pm, Matt Sanford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Amir, > > This is something we've talked about internally for some time. > Please open a ticket athttp://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issuesso > we can track your request. Done: http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=172 Amir > > Thanks; > — Matt Sanford (@mzsanford) > > On Dec 2, 2008, at 10:31 AM, Amir Michail wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > I would like to be able to issue queries like this: > > > web 2.0 follows:techcrunch > > > This would identify tweets containing web 2.0 posted by people > > following techcrunch. > > > Amir --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Twitter Development Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Search API feature request: follows:username
Hi, I would like to be able to issue queries like this: web 2.0 follows:techcrunch This would identify tweets containing web 2.0 posted by people following techcrunch. Amir
Re: Tips on speeding up OR queries?
On Dec 2, 1:11 pm, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 2, 11:24 am, "Chad Etzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I do OR queries through the search API all day long and they are always > > blazingly fast from my perspective. Do you have some numbers you could > > share regarding the time it takes to do the query? > > Queries of this form can be very slow: > > web 2.0 from:techcrunch OR from:kevinrose OR from:leolaporte OR > from:scobleizer > > Amir You might even get this with such queries: Application error Rails application failed to start properly Amir > > > > > Also, having the client do it in their browser through javascript is also a > > very easy and viable alternative (of course, depending on the application). > > I have used that method many many times as well. > > > -Chad > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Richie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Maybe you can do it in Javascipt on the Browser? > > > > Richard > > > > On Dec 2, 3:24 am, "Andrew Badera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Which reinforces my "it's a GAE problem" stance ... GAE needs to accept > > > the > > > > reality of the demands that will be placed on that system. Long-running > > > > operations against foreign servers is one among many such issues. > > > > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 1, 9:08 pm, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 1, 8:15 pm, "Andrew Badera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > The timeout I see as more of a GAE issue, not a Twitter one. You > > > get > > > > > what > > > > > > > you pay for, on both sides of that equation. > > > > > > > It's not a CPU usage issue in the GAE. It's just that the request > > > > > > to > > > > > > the twitter search API takes too long and urlfetch times out in the > > > > > > GAE. > > > > > > > Hopefully a timeout parameter will be added to urlfetch soon... > > > > > > > Amir > > > > > > Actually... > > > > > > "Increasing the timeout in production isn't possible at present, and > > > > > you'll always be bound by our overall request limits." > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/msg/f59528628a3bb86e > > > > > > Amir > > > > > > > > No SLA, no billing from Twitter, beta and no billing on GAE's part > > > ... > > > > > and I > > > > > > > think we can agree, GAE hasn't been particular forthcoming nor > > > > > cooperative > > > > > > > about what constitutes a true mcycle or a long-running request. > > > > > > > > That said, perhaps there's some optimization to be done on OR ... > > > > > > > > Thanks- > > > > > > > - Andy Badera > > > > > > > - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > - (518) 641-1280 > > > > > > > > -http://higherefficiency.net/ > > > > > > > -http://changeroundup.com/ > > > > > > > > -http://flipbitsnotburgers.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > -http://andrew.badera.us/ > > > > > > > > - Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > OR search queries can take a long time and are causing lots of > > > > > > > > timeouts with google app engine. > > > > > > > > > Amir
Re: Tips on speeding up OR queries?
On Dec 2, 11:24 am, "Chad Etzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do OR queries through the search API all day long and they are always > blazingly fast from my perspective. Do you have some numbers you could > share regarding the time it takes to do the query? Queries of this form can be very slow: web 2.0 from:techcrunch OR from:kevinrose OR from:leolaporte OR from:scobleizer Amir > > Also, having the client do it in their browser through javascript is also a > very easy and viable alternative (of course, depending on the application). > I have used that method many many times as well. > > -Chad > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:54 AM, Richie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Maybe you can do it in Javascipt on the Browser? > > > Richard > > > On Dec 2, 3:24 am, "Andrew Badera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Which reinforces my "it's a GAE problem" stance ... GAE needs to accept > > the > > > reality of the demands that will be placed on that system. Long-running > > > operations against foreign servers is one among many such issues. > > > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 1, 9:08 pm, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 1, 8:15 pm, "Andrew Badera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > The timeout I see as more of a GAE issue, not a Twitter one. You > > get > > > > what > > > > > > you pay for, on both sides of that equation. > > > > > > It's not a CPU usage issue in the GAE. It's just that the request to > > > > > the twitter search API takes too long and urlfetch times out in the > > > > > GAE. > > > > > > Hopefully a timeout parameter will be added to urlfetch soon... > > > > > > Amir > > > > > Actually... > > > > > "Increasing the timeout in production isn't possible at present, and > > > > you'll always be bound by our overall request limits." > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/msg/f59528628a3bb86e > > > > > Amir > > > > > > > No SLA, no billing from Twitter, beta and no billing on GAE's part > > ... > > > > and I > > > > > > think we can agree, GAE hasn't been particular forthcoming nor > > > > cooperative > > > > > > about what constitutes a true mcycle or a long-running request. > > > > > > > That said, perhaps there's some optimization to be done on OR ... > > > > > > > Thanks- > > > > > > - Andy Badera > > > > > > - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > - (518) 641-1280 > > > > > > > -http://higherefficiency.net/ > > > > > > -http://changeroundup.com/ > > > > > > > -http://flipbitsnotburgers.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > -http://andrew.badera.us/ > > > > > > > - Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > OR search queries can take a long time and are causing lots of > > > > > > > timeouts with google app engine. > > > > > > > > Amir
Re: Tips on speeding up OR queries?
On Dec 1, 9:08 pm, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 1, 8:15 pm, "Andrew Badera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The timeout I see as more of a GAE issue, not a Twitter one. You get what > > you pay for, on both sides of that equation. > > It's not a CPU usage issue in the GAE. It's just that the request to > the twitter search API takes too long and urlfetch times out in the > GAE. > > Hopefully a timeout parameter will be added to urlfetch soon... > > Amir > Actually... "Increasing the timeout in production isn't possible at present, and you'll always be bound by our overall request limits." http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/msg/f59528628a3bb86e Amir > > > > No SLA, no billing from Twitter, beta and no billing on GAE's part ... and I > > think we can agree, GAE hasn't been particular forthcoming nor cooperative > > about what constitutes a true mcycle or a long-running request. > > > That said, perhaps there's some optimization to be done on OR ... > > > Thanks- > > - Andy Badera > > - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - (518) 641-1280 > > > -http://higherefficiency.net/ > > -http://changeroundup.com/ > > > -http://flipbitsnotburgers.blogspot.com/ > > -http://andrew.badera.us/ > > > - Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera > > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > OR search queries can take a long time and are causing lots of > > > timeouts with google app engine. > > > > Amir
Re: Tips on speeding up OR queries?
On Dec 1, 8:15 pm, "Andrew Badera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The timeout I see as more of a GAE issue, not a Twitter one. You get what > you pay for, on both sides of that equation. It's not a CPU usage issue in the GAE. It's just that the request to the twitter search API takes too long and urlfetch times out in the GAE. Hopefully a timeout parameter will be added to urlfetch soon... Amir > > No SLA, no billing from Twitter, beta and no billing on GAE's part ... and I > think we can agree, GAE hasn't been particular forthcoming nor cooperative > about what constitutes a true mcycle or a long-running request. > > That said, perhaps there's some optimization to be done on OR ... > > Thanks- > - Andy Badera > - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - (518) 641-1280 > > -http://higherefficiency.net/ > -http://changeroundup.com/ > > -http://flipbitsnotburgers.blogspot.com/ > -http://andrew.badera.us/ > > - Google me:http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:10 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > OR search queries can take a long time and are causing lots of > > timeouts with google app engine. > > > Amir
Tips on speeding up OR queries?
Hi, OR search queries can take a long time and are causing lots of timeouts with google app engine. Amir
Re: a simple workaround for lack of OAuth
On Nov 24, 5:05 pm, "Alex Payne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We're currently waiting on our User Experience team to put the final > touches on a BETA release of ourOAuthsupport. It's going to have > bugs, to be sure, but we should have it out there soon. > Could you give us a time estimate? In a week? A month? Amir > > > On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:53, Stut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 24 Nov 2008, at 15:13, fastest963 wrote: > > >> A better alternative would be to just create an API key for > >> every user. Instead of entering username/password, they would enter > >> their secret API key? > > > This is far less secure thanOAuthand is actually not much better than > > requiring a username and password. > > > One of the core benefits ofOAuthis the ability to be very specific > > regarding what each authorised application is allowed to do, on a per > > application basis. It also allows you to selectively revoke the permissions > > of any specific application without needing to ask or even tell the > > application about it. To do this with the API key system you effectively > > need to re-authorise every app you use when you want to block just one of > > them. No real difference between this and having to change your password. > > > I would much prefer that the guys (and gals) at Twitter concentrate on > > gettingOAuthproperly implemented (which is harder than it sounds) than > > their attention gets diverted by developers too impatient to wait for the > > right solution to the problem. > > > -Stut > > > -- > >http://stut.net/ > > -- > Alex Payne - API Lead, Twitter, Inc.http://twitter.com/al3x
Re: Python Twitter API Wrapper problem w/ Google app engine
On Nov 22, 8:45 pm, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm stuck on the authorization part:
The bug here is sending the headers in the payload...
Amir
>
> if self._username and self._password:
> self._AddAuthorizationHeader(self._username,
> self._password)
> print "self._request_headers = "+`self._request_headers`
> requestBody = urllib.urlencode(self._request_headers)
> url_data = urlfetch.fetch(url,
> method=urlfetch.POST,
> headers={'Content-type':
> 'application/x-www-form-
> urlencoded',
> 'Content-Length':
> str(len(requestBody))},
> payload=requestBody).content
>
> This gives the following exception when a username and password are
> supplied:
>
> ...\src\twitter.py in NewFromJsonDict(data=u'request')
> 547 else:
> 548 status = None
> 549 return User(id=data.get('id', None),
> 550 name=data.get('name', None),
> 551 screen_name=data.get('screen_name', None),
> global User = , builtin id = id>, data = u'request', data.get undefined, builtin None = None, name
> undefined, screen_name undefined, location undefined, description
> undefined, profile_image_url undefined, url undefined, status = None
> : 'unicode' object has no attribute
> 'get'
>
> Any ideas on how to get this to work?
>
> Amir
Re: a simple workaround for lack of OAuth
On Nov 24, 10:13 am, fastest963 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > @Amir That is not a very relevant question. Why do you want to make > multiple accounts? So users would follow an account with the same name as the service? Anyway, I found out that creating multiple accounts is fine. Amir > > @al3x A better alternative would be to just create an API key for > every user. Instead of entering username/password, they would enter > their secret API key?
Re: Are there any limitations on storing twitter data in a database?
On Nov 22, 1:35 pm, "Alex Payne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any restrictions on what you can store that's consumed via the REST > API or Search API is in our Terms of Service:http://twitter.com/terms This is the only relevant part I found in the Terms of Service: "The Twitter service makes it possible to post images and text hosted on Twitter to outside websites. This use is accepted (and even encouraged!). However, pages on other websites which display data hosted on Twitter.com must provide a link back to Twitter." So it seems that keeping a copy of (potentially large) parts of the social graph is fine. Amir > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 09:34, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > Can we store whatever we like in a database? > > > Are there any limitations on what can be stored and for how long? > > > Are there any rules against using stale data? > > > Amir > > -- > Alex Payne - API Lead, Twitter, Inc.http://twitter.com/al3x
Re: a simple workaround for lack of OAuth
On Nov 23, 2:33 pm, TCI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I find it better to get users to follow your account and then send > them a DM with a URL. Builds followers and eliminates errors from user > side. > R Are we allowed to have multiple accounts on twitter? If so, how many? Amir > > On Nov 22, 11:30 am, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 22, 12:26 pm, "Chad Etzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This is a good method to verify (claim) an account, yes... but if you > > > wanted > > > them to be able to do any sort of authenticated request (like tweeting or > > > sending a direct message), you'd still need their password. That is, > > > unless > > > you are asking twitter to change the way their API works. > > > > By "future logins", do you mean to twitter? or to your service? > > > > -Chad > > > It would simplify future logins to my service over even OAuth. > > > The problem for me though is that without user-specific authentication > > (i.e., I use authentication under my account always), IP-based rate > > limiting is a severe problem making this at best a temporary solution. > > > Amir > > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > One could just have the user enter an assigned code into the bio/url > > > > or even in a post (which would also help promote your service). Doing > > > > so would allow the user to "claim" the twitter account and associate > > > > it with his/her account in your service. > > > > > Unlike OAuth, this would even make future logins simpler. > > > > > Is this a reasonable way to go? > > > > > Amir
Re: Python Twitter API Wrapper problem w/ Google app engine
On Nov 23, 3:15 pm, "Julio Biason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/23/08, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > global User = , builtin id = > id>, data = u'request', data.get undefined, builtin None = None, name > > undefined, screen_name undefined, location undefined, description > > undefined, profile_image_url undefined, url undefined, status = None > > : 'unicode' object has no attribute > > 'get' > > > Any ideas on how to get this to work? > > Your "data" object is wrong. It's a string (with the content > 'request') and not a dictionary. > The authorization is rejected (response code 401) thus leading to this exception. Amir > -- > Julio Biason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Twitter:http://twitter.com/juliobiason
Python Twitter API Wrapper problem w/ Google app engine
Hi,
I'm stuck on the authorization part:
if self._username and self._password:
self._AddAuthorizationHeader(self._username,
self._password)
print "self._request_headers = "+`self._request_headers`
requestBody = urllib.urlencode(self._request_headers)
url_data = urlfetch.fetch(url,
method=urlfetch.POST,
headers={'Content-type':
'application/x-www-form-
urlencoded',
'Content-Length':
str(len(requestBody))},
payload=requestBody).content
This gives the following exception when a username and password are
supplied:
...\src\twitter.py in NewFromJsonDict(data=u'request')
547 else:
548 status = None
549 return User(id=data.get('id', None),
550 name=data.get('name', None),
551 screen_name=data.get('screen_name', None),
global User = , builtin id = , data = u'request', data.get undefined, builtin None = None, name
undefined, screen_name undefined, location undefined, description
undefined, profile_image_url undefined, url undefined, status = None
: 'unicode' object has no attribute
'get'
Any ideas on how to get this to work?
Amir
Are there any limitations on storing twitter data in a database?
Hi, Can we store whatever we like in a database? Are there any limitations on what can be stored and for how long? Are there any rules against using stale data? Amir
Re: a simple workaround for lack of OAuth
On Nov 22, 12:26 pm, "Chad Etzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a good method to verify (claim) an account, yes... but if you wanted > them to be able to do any sort of authenticated request (like tweeting or > sending a direct message), you'd still need their password. That is, unless > you are asking twitter to change the way their API works. > > By "future logins", do you mean to twitter? or to your service? > > -Chad It would simplify future logins to my service over even OAuth. The problem for me though is that without user-specific authentication (i.e., I use authentication under my account always), IP-based rate limiting is a severe problem making this at best a temporary solution. Amir > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > One could just have the user enter an assigned code into the bio/url > > or even in a post (which would also help promote your service). Doing > > so would allow the user to "claim" the twitter account and associate > > it with his/her account in your service. > > > Unlike OAuth, this would even make future logins simpler. > > > Is this a reasonable way to go? > > > Amir
a simple workaround for lack of OAuth
Hi, One could just have the user enter an assigned code into the bio/url or even in a post (which would also help promote your service). Doing so would allow the user to "claim" the twitter account and associate it with his/her account in your service. Unlike OAuth, this would even make future logins simpler. Is this a reasonable way to go? Amir
Re: Could you please increase # followers returned to 1000 say?
On Nov 22, 12:25 am, Jesse Stay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 21, 2008, at 8:26 PM, Amir Michail wrote: > > > > > On Nov 21, 10:11 pm, "Chad Etzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> As per the API documentation, you might want to look at the "page" > >> parameter. The API documentation is pretty extensive in this > >> regard. Don't > >> be afraid to read it :) > > > Currently, you would need to perform 10 queries to get 1000 > > followers. I suspect that would be pretty slow. > > > Amir > > It's incredibly slow. Imagine users with 10,000 or 20,000 followers - > that's what I'm dealing with and it's a pain in the neck. I'm sure if > I'm dealing with it Twitter's dealing with it too. I just hope a > solution's coming out in the next revision of the API. > > Even a "since" parameter or a sort by date followed would be a huge > step forward. I would be interested in a sort by follower count. But even with that, 100 is too low. Amir > > Jesse
Re: Could you please increase # followers returned to 1000 say?
On Nov 21, 10:11 pm, "Chad Etzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As per the API documentation, you might want to look at the "page" > parameter. The API documentation is pretty extensive in this regard. Don't > be afraid to read it :) Currently, you would need to perform 10 queries to get 1000 followers. I suspect that would be pretty slow. Amir > > followers > > Returns the authenticating user's followers, each with current status > inline. They are ordered by the order in which they joined Twitter (this is > going to be changed). > > *URL:*http://twitter.com/statuses/followers.*format* > > *Formats:* xml, json > > *Method(s):* GET > > *Parameters:* > > - id. Optional. The ID or screen name of the user for whom to request a > list of followers. Ex:http://twitter.com/statuses/followers/12345.jsonor > http://twitter.com/statuses/followers/bob.xml > - page. Optional. Retrieves the next 100 followers. Ex: > http://twitter.com/statuses/followers.xml?page=2 > > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > Or if not, please give us some control over which 100 followers are > > returned. > > > Amir
Could you please increase # followers returned to 1000 say?
Hi, Or if not, please give us some control over which 100 followers are returned. Amir
Re: Twitter trademark
On Nov 21, 9:21 pm, Jesse Stay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But if you call it Twit you may be violating Leo's trademark - may > need to ask him about that. http://twit.tv :-) > > Jesse But tweet is safe? Amir > > On Nov 21, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Alex Payne wrote: > > > > > There are certainly many applications out there that include "Twitter" > > as part of their name, but we prefer that you not do so. "Twit", > > "Tweet", etc. are all fine. > > > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 13:09, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > >> On Nov 21, 3:59 pm, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Hi, > > >>> What sort of similar sounding names could one use for a Twitter > >>> service to avoid trademark infringement? > > >> Just to be clear, will there be legal problems if the entire word > >> "twitter" is used as part of a name? > > >> Amir > > >>> The idea is to use names that would make it clear that this is a > >>> Twitter service. > > >>> Amir > > > -- > > Alex Payne - API Lead, Twitter, Inc. > >http://twitter.com/al3x
Why is authentication required to get follower info?
Hi, curl http://twitter.com/statuses/followers/amichail.rss yields /statuses/followers/amichail.rss Could not authenticate you. Amir
Re: Twitter trademark
On Nov 21, 3:59 pm, Amir Michail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > What sort of similar sounding names could one use for a Twitter > service to avoid trademark infringement? Just to be clear, will there be legal problems if the entire word "twitter" is used as part of a name? Amir > > The idea is to use names that would make it clear that this is a > Twitter service. > > Amir
Twitter trademark
Hi, What sort of similar sounding names could one use for a Twitter service to avoid trademark infringement? The idea is to use names that would make it clear that this is a Twitter service. Amir
Post to Twitter Link
Hi, Is there a way that to provide a link that would post to twitter? Something like Facebook's sharer? Amir
Why would anyone trust your app with twitter password?
Hi, With the google app engine, users don't give you their google password -- the log in is handled by google. Could something like that be done with twitter so that users don't need to trust you with their twitter password? Amir
