Re: [U-Boot] Reading data from SPI flash before relocation - what is the best way to do this?

[Wolfgang Denk]

Dear Marcin,

In message  
you wrote:
> 
> I want to chose the best aproach to achive something like this:
> There is a u-boot without SPL and it is copied by bootrom to SDRAM.

OK, the question why you don't use SPL has already been asked.

> In first phase (while running  *_f functions) I need to read some 
> configuration data from SPI NOR, and it must be done before DDR config.

Why do you need to read it separately?  Can you not "attach" it to the
U-Boot image, so the boot ROM will read that combined image (U-Boot
plus your config data) ?


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Wolfgang Denk

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[U-Boot] Reading data from SPI flash before relocation - what is the best way to do this?

[Krzeminski, Marcin (Nokia - PL/Wroclaw)]

Hello,

I want to chose the best aproach to achive something like this:
There is a u-boot without SPL and it is copied by bootrom to SDRAM.
In first phase (while running  *_f functions) I need to read some configuration 
data from SPI NOR, and it must be done before DDR config.
I have SPI NOR  with enabled MTD support on SPI. Problem is that MTD uses bss 
wich is not avalaible yet.
My solutions:
*   Change linker script to divide bss and rel.dyn sections and clean bss 
by myself. Disadventage is that it will enlarge my binary, but it migh be 
acceptable.
*   Write code that do not use SPI/MTD frameworks to read configuration 
data (data will be on raw so MTD is not needed).
For sure - at least at the moment - I wan't to avoid using SPL and config 
compiled into binary.
Maybe there is another way that I can achive that?

Regards,
Marcin




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Re: [U-Boot] Reading data from SPI flash before relocation - what is the best way to do this?

[Jagan Teki]

On 22 October 2015 at 17:05, Krzeminski, Marcin (Nokia - PL/Wroclaw)
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I want to chose the best aproach to achive something like this:
> There is a u-boot without SPL and it is copied by bootrom to SDRAM.
> In first phase (while running  *_f functions) I need to read some 
> configuration data from SPI NOR, and it must be done before DDR config.

Why can't you use SPL? any specific reason?

Just to be clear are going write the data from spi-nor to SRAM because
*_f doesn't have DDR access.

> I have SPI NOR  with enabled MTD support on SPI. Problem is that MTD uses bss 
> wich is not avalaible yet.
> My solutions:
> *   Change linker script to divide bss and rel.dyn sections and clean bss 
> by myself. Disadventage is that it will enlarge my binary, but it migh be 
> acceptable.
> *   Write code that do not use SPI/MTD frameworks to read configuration 
> data (data will be on raw so MTD is not needed).
> For sure - at least at the moment - I wan't to avoid using SPL and config 
> compiled into binary.
> Maybe there is another way that I can achive that?

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Re: [U-Boot] Reading data from SPI flash before relocation - what is the best way to do this?

[Krzeminski, Marcin (Nokia - PL/Wroclaw)]

> -Original Message-
> From: EXT Jagan Teki [mailto:jt...@openedev.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:55 PM
> To: Krzeminski, Marcin (Nokia - PL/Wroclaw)
> <marcin.krzemin...@nokia.com>
> Cc: u-boot@lists.denx.de
> Subject: Re: [U-Boot] Reading data from SPI flash before relocation - what is
> the best way to do this?
> 
> On 22 October 2015 at 17:05, Krzeminski, Marcin (Nokia - PL/Wroclaw)
> <marcin.krzemin...@nokia.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I want to chose the best aproach to achive something like this:
> > There is a u-boot without SPL and it is copied by bootrom to SDRAM.
> > In first phase (while running  *_f functions) I need to read some
> configuration data from SPI NOR, and it must be done before DDR config.
> 
> Why can't you use SPL? any specific reason?

Since we are already in small SDRAM, so assumption was tha SPL is not needed - 
which was apparently wrong.
Strong argument is that dividing u-boot to u-boot and SPL will consume more 
flash space, complicate flash layout and already complicated boot process.

> Just to be clear are going write the data from spi-nor to SRAM because
> *_f doesn't have DDR access.

Yes.

> > I have SPI NOR  with enabled MTD support on SPI. Problem is that MTD
> uses bss wich is not avalaible yet.
> > My solutions:
> > *   Change linker script to divide bss and rel.dyn sections and clean 
> > bss by
> myself. Disadventage is that it will enlarge my binary, but it migh be
> acceptable.
> > *   Write code that do not use SPI/MTD frameworks to read configuration
> data (data will be on raw so MTD is not needed).
> > For sure - at least at the moment - I wan't to avoid using SPL and config
> compiled into binary.
> > Maybe there is another way that I can achive that?
> 
> --
> Jagan | openedev.

Regards,
Marcin
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Re: [U-Boot] Reading data from SPI flash before relocation - what is the best way to do this?

[Krzeminski, Marcin (Nokia - PL/Wroclaw)]

> -Original Message-
> From: EXT Wolfgang Denk [mailto:w...@denx.de]
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:16 PM
> To: Krzeminski, Marcin (Nokia - PL/Wroclaw)
> <marcin.krzemin...@nokia.com>
> Cc: u-boot@lists.denx.de
> Subject: Re: [U-Boot] Reading data from SPI flash before relocation - what is
> the best way to do this?
> 
> Dear Marcin,
> 
> In message
> <ca0e6f9ba6aed7458c23277bd87075e50f731...@demumbx014.nsn-
> intra.net> you wrote:
> >
> > I want to chose the best aproach to achive something like this:
> > There is a u-boot without SPL and it is copied by bootrom to SDRAM.
> 
> OK, the question why you don't use SPL has already been asked.
> 
> > In first phase (while running  *_f functions) I need to read some
> configuration data from SPI NOR, and it must be done before DDR config.
> 
> Why do you need to read it separately?  Can you not "attach" it to the
> U-Boot image, so the boot ROM will read that combined image (U-Boot
> plus your config data) ?
> 

Because many configuration are expected, so avoiding many u-boot binaries is 
the target.

Generally it seems that I want to do something that is against u-boot design, 
so my question should be,
how to do it harmless?

I changed linker script, cleared bss and it seem that this is working fine, so 
probably I'll try this way.

> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Wolfgang Denk
> 
> --
> DENX Software Engineering GmbH,  Managing Director: Wolfgang Denk
> HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
> Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: w...@denx.de
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> the smell.

Best regards,
Marcin Krzemiński
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