Re: [U-Boot-Users] simplify bootm command

2008-08-05 Thread Albert ARIBAUD
Wolfgang Denk a écrit :

 That's why I think we should have an explicit builtin command, i. e.
 command with the name builtin that will always run the corresponding
 builtin command, no if there is a command alias or not - similar to
 the bash command

... and make sure that one can *never* define an environment variable 
called 'builtin', and even remove any such definition if found in the 
environment when reading it from persistent memory at boot.

Amicalement,
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Re: [U-Boot-Users] simplify bootm command

2008-08-05 Thread Albert ARIBAUD
Wolfgang Denk a écrit :
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
 That's why I think we should have an explicit builtin command, i. e.
 command with the name builtin that will always run the corresponding
 builtin command, no if there is a command alias or not - similar to
 the bash command
 ... and make sure that one can *never* define an environment variable 
 called 'builtin', and even remove any such definition if found in the 
 environment when reading it from persistent memory at boot.
 
 No. That's where the always in my sentence above comes  into  play.
 Even  if  you define such a variable I would just issue a warning and
 then ignore it when it comes to command execution.

My bad. I'd analyzed your always to apply to builtin's argument (the 
second word in the command), not to 'builtin' itself (the first word in the 
command).

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Re: [U-Boot-Users] using a flat device tree to drive u-boot config

2008-08-04 Thread Albert ARIBAUD
Timur Tabi a écrit :
 On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Grant Likely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Better to just not depend on the DTB at all for basic operation.  ie.
 don't brick the board if the DTB is unavailable.
 
 Is it even possible to have a recovery mode U-Boot that is not tied
 to the specific board it's built for?  Either U-Boot is reliable, or
 it's generic (i.e. uses the DTB for configuration).  I just don't see
 how it can be both.

A recovery U-boot would only need to be generic enough to provide a console 
and means to upload and run code through that console. If that works well, 
then you have a reliable and (as) generic (as it gets) recovery u-boot 
(granted, it would still depend on the console working out-of-the-boot 
without any HW tricks like enabling voltage converters and such).

Amicalement,
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Re: [U-Boot-Users] Please Help me to Setup Send Patch using M$ Office

2008-08-01 Thread Albert ARIBAUD
Wolfgang Denk a écrit :
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote:
 so please help me setup either M$ Office or guide me to send patches through
 nabble forum
 
 Type: man git-send-email

Note that some host development platforms do not have git-send-email 
installed along automatically. I have just hastily installed it right 
now. :)

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Re: [U-Boot-Users] RFC: U-Boot version numbering

2008-08-01 Thread Albert ARIBAUD
Ben Warren a écrit :
 Kumar Gala wrote:
 On Aug 1, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:

   
 Hello,

 I would like to get your general opinion about  changing  the  U-Boot
 version numbering scheme.

 To be honest, I never really understood myself how this  is  supposed
 to work and if the next version should be 1.3.4 or 1.4.0 or 2.0.0, i.
 e.  which  changes  / additions are important enough to increment the
 PATCHLEVEL or even VERSION number.

 I therefor suggest to drop this style of version numbering and change
 to a timestamp based version  number  system  which  has  been  quite
 successfully  used  by  other  projects  (like  Ubuntu)  or  is under
 discussion (for Linux).

 My suggestion for the new version numbers is as follows:

 VERSION = 1 (at least for the time being)

 PATCHLEVEL = current year - 2000

 SUBLEVEL = current month

 Both PATCHLEVEL and SUBLEVEL shall always be 2 digits (at  least  for
 the  next 91+ years to come) so listings for example on an FTP server
 shall be in a sane sorting order.

 If we accept this system, the next release which probably comes out
 in October 2008 would be v1.08.10, and assuming the one after that
 comes out in January 2009 would be named v1.09.01
 
 If we go to date based versions.  I'd prefer we keep year as 4 digits:

 v1.2008.10
 v1.2009.01

 It just seems easier to me at a visual level when I look at try and  
 compare versions.

 - k
   
 I vote for this one, but starting at v2.

Just one thing: Verson numbering can be anything you want, but I think 
it should be self-consistent. And on that account, I realize that the 
v1 part has no real meaning wrt to the rest of the version string, 
which date-related -- unless there is a plan to have simultaneous v1 and 
v2 releases, in which case it makes sense to have v1.

Amicalement,
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Re: [U-Boot-Users] RFC: U-Boot version numbering

2008-08-01 Thread Albert ARIBAUD
Feng Kan a écrit :

 You can just do v2008.1. 

That would be v2008.01, then, lest we want FTP sites to put november and 
december releases between january and february. :)

  You can add a third field for the day for those
 really serious
 bugs:)

What, and not be able to crank out several releases in a single day? I 
vote for iso-8601 compliance (up to the second and including TZ).

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Re: [U-Boot-Users] U-boot and Mathematical Library

2008-07-29 Thread Albert ARIBAUD
Vincenzo Scianni a écrit :
 Hi to everyone.
  
 I have a general question: my need is to use u-boot to initialize a 
 PowerPC 5123 and then to continue with a custom kernel without Linux. 
 The problem is that during initialization I must drive very early a 
 graphical controller by PCI to show some logos and I need of 
 mathematical library; 

What kind of logo display requires math? You're going to display a 
bitmap probably, so the only math involved would be integer arithmetic, 
I think. And if you have a logo in vector form, then you can convert it 
to bitmap (adapted to your FB format) offline and link the bitmap from, 
not the vector, in u-boot.

 I suspect that u-boot doesn't support any.

I suspect you're right.

 First question there exist one compatible with u-boot ?

Don't know.

 In your opinion  is it possible to follow idea of import a mathematical
  library to boot and draw something and after continue with a custom
  kernel ?

No reason why you could not; but I think that's a waste of FLASH and 
cycles, and you'd be better of turning your logo into a simple bitmap 
format that u-boot possibly already understands.

 There is some 
 deep technical reason to load a Linux kernel and then plot a logo ?

No reason for this, but again, no reason (that I can see from your 
description) that you'd need math in the first place. Can you elaborate 
on the reason that makes you need math onboard rather than off-board?

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Re: [U-Boot-Users] [yes, i tried rtfming docs]u-boot on x86, how to?

2008-07-26 Thread Albert ARIBAUD
Geraldo Netto a écrit :

 i tried the steps at http://www.denx.de/wiki/DULG/Manual
 but i was not able to make it work on x86
 does anyone have any tip/doc(s) on how to make u-boot work on x86?
 i'd really appreciate that help :P

Hello,

You *might* get some help if you specify what exactly you tried, what 
succeeded, what did not succeed and what was the actual vs expected 
outcome of the unsuccessful step, including error messages.

Amicalement,
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