Re: [U2] Verify Universe - was [U2] UniObjects and Triggers

2004-11-24 Thread Mats Carlid
Sara Burns wrote:
We have solved our problem with the UniObjects by re-installing UniVerse
after we found the checksum for uvapi_slave was different on our two
machines.
Is there any way to verify that the UniVerse binaries are correct?  

This would have saved us many hours of testing, red herrings and general
desperation.  There was nothing visible at the file level which indicated
the file had been updated, only the checksum.  We have been having disk
errors on the machine and have now found that these binaries are on a
mirrored set showing errors.  That was a surprise as we thought they were on
a different disk array.
AIX 5.2 ML_01, UniVerse 10.0.11
Sara Burns 

 

Yes,
when you install uv   a checksum check is performed and the checksums
are kept in .../uv/checksums
You'll find the code to rerun the check in one of the installation 
scripts (uv.install?).

If they could be corrput reload them from the installation medium.
HTH
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[U2] [UD] problem with hex conversions

2004-11-24 Thread Ben Gladman
I'm getting unexpected results from the hex conversions in Unidata 6.0.12 on
NT:

PROGRAM BJGTEST
*
CRT OCONV('1','MO')= : OCONV('1','MO')
CRT OCONV('1','MO0C')= : OCONV('1','MO0C')
CRT OCONV('1','MX0C')= : OCONV('1','MX0C')
CRT OCONV('1','MX')= : OCONV('1','MX')
CRT ICONV('F','MX')= : ICONV('F','MX')
*
STOP


the results I get are:

OCONV('1','MO')=001
OCONV('1','MO0C')=061
OCONV('1','MX0C')=31
OCONV('1','MX')=31
ICONV('F','MX')=

The octal conversions and the hex-ascii conversion seem okay. But I would
expect the fourth line to read '1' or '01', and the fifth line to read '15'?
Is this a problem anyone else gets?

Cheers,
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[U2] Re: [UD] problem with hex conversions

2004-11-24 Thread Simon Lewington
Switch to $BASICTYPE 'U' to stop this supposed Pick-Style behaviour.

Simon

Ben Gladman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 I'm getting unexpected results from the hex conversions in Unidata 6.0.12
on
 NT:

 PROGRAM BJGTEST
 *
 CRT OCONV('1','MO')= : OCONV('1','MO')
 CRT OCONV('1','MO0C')= : OCONV('1','MO0C')
 CRT OCONV('1','MX0C')= : OCONV('1','MX0C')
 CRT OCONV('1','MX')= : OCONV('1','MX')
 CRT ICONV('F','MX')= : ICONV('F','MX')
 *
 STOP


 the results I get are:

 OCONV('1','MO')=001
 OCONV('1','MO0C')=061
 OCONV('1','MX0C')=31
 OCONV('1','MX')=31
 ICONV('F','MX')=

 The octal conversions and the hex-ascii conversion seem okay. But I would
 expect the fourth line to read '1' or '01', and the fifth line to read
'15'?
 Is this a problem anyone else gets?

 Cheers,
 -Ben
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[U2] Re: [UD] problem with hex conversions

2004-11-24 Thread Ben Gladman
Also just found out [[thanks Adam]] that if you put any other character at
the end of the conversion code, it works ok:


PROGRAM BJGTEST
*
CRT OCONV('1','MX*')= : OCONV('1','MX*')
CRT ICONV('F','MX*')= : ICONV('F','MX*')
*
STOP


produces:

OCONV('1','MX*')=01
ICONV('F','MX*')=15





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Switch to $BASICTYPE 'U' to stop this supposed Pick-Style behaviour.

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RE: [U2] Verify Universe - was [U2] UniObjects and Triggers

2004-11-24 Thread Tom Dodds
In following Mats lead and poking around in /.../uv/bin there is a script
called csum that seems to do what you want to do, we all want to do.  Not
being a script writer myself we will need a script reader to look at this
and verify that it really does what I think it does.

Script reader anyone??
/.../uv/bin/csum

Tom Dodds
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Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 2:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Verify Universe - was [U2] UniObjects and Triggers


Sara Burns wrote:

We have solved our problem with the UniObjects by re-installing 
UniVerse after we found the checksum for uvapi_slave was different on 
our two machines.
 
Is there any way to verify that the UniVerse binaries are correct?
 
This would have saved us many hours of testing, red herrings and 
general desperation.  There was nothing visible at the file level which 
indicated the file had been updated, only the checksum.  We have been 
having disk errors on the machine and have now found that these 
binaries are on a mirrored set showing errors.  That was a surprise as 
we thought they were on a different disk array.
 
AIX 5.2 ML_01, UniVerse 10.0.11
 
Sara Burns

  

Yes,

when you install uv   a checksum check is performed and the checksums
 are kept in .../uv/checksums
 You'll find the code to rerun the check in one of the installation 
scripts (uv.install?).

If they could be corrput reload them from the installation medium.

HTH
-- mats
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[U2] Resizing All Files in a System

2004-11-24 Thread TPellitieri
Is there a way to semi-automagically resize all the files in a UniData
account/system?

When we used Pick D3, we could run a process which would store the mod to
use on restore in the file definition item.  If we did a full system file
save and restore, the files would be recreated with the new and improved
mod.  We use to do this on a fairly regular basis, but since changing to
UniData, we haven't really addressed this.

I know I can use guide to get suggested resizing, and that I can use
memresize to actually resize an individual file, but is there a way to do
this system wide?  We are considering migrating to a newer machine, and
since we would have a system with no users on it for a while, it seems to
be the best time to implement a massive update.

Pointers to the correct manual would be appreciated, or a brief summary.
I'm certain that this has been discussed before, but I couldn't find it in
the archives.

--Tom Pellitieri
  Century Equipment
  Toledo, Ohio
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RE: [U2][UD] - Transaction Processing

2004-11-24 Thread Charlie Rubeor
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From: Chauhan, Savita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:50 AM
To: Charlie Rubeor
Subject: RE: [U2][UD] - Transaction Processing

Hi Charlie,
Does UNIX keep a user's login history somewhere, i.e.
 his/her login/logout times (not just the last one, but
 for some amount of period in past)? If it does, where
 does it keep it and how can I see it?

Thank you,

Savita Chauhan,
Programmer/Analyst
x:1754 Central Texas College.
---
Change is the only Constant.


That is what user accounting does.  IBM has a whole book on how to manage
this.  I don't have access to an aix server right now, so I can't give you
detailed instructions on how to set it up.  A quick overview:

/var/adm/utmp - keeps a list of current users
/var/adm/wtmp - keeps a list of past login/logout activity
/var/adm/btmp - keeps a list of bad login attempts.  (This is a great place
to look for the root password, btw.)

To activate the process, (acctcon?) I believe that you can use smit.  There
are also a couple of crontab entries that monitor the free space in
/var/adm.

Once activated, the last and lastb commands will display information from
the files listed above.

We are kinda off-topic for a U2 list here.  Unless someone else finds this
interesting, email me directly.  Or maybe the U2 community list?

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RE: [U2] Resizing All Files in a System

2004-11-24 Thread Kevin King
Can we then assume that you're not interested in a packaged solution
like FAST? 

-Kevin
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Subject: [U2] Resizing All Files in a System

Is there a way to semi-automagically resize all the files in a UniData
account/system?

When we used Pick D3, we could run a process which would store the mod
to use on restore in the file definition item.  If we did a full
system file save and restore, the files would be recreated with the
new and improved
mod.  We use to do this on a fairly regular basis, but since changing
to UniData, we haven't really addressed this.

I know I can use guide to get suggested resizing, and that I can use
memresize to actually resize an individual file, but is there a way to
do this system wide?  We are considering migrating to a newer machine,
and since we would have a system with no users on it for a while, it
seems to be the best time to implement a massive update.

Pointers to the correct manual would be appreciated, or a brief
summary.
I'm certain that this has been discussed before, but I couldn't find
it in the archives.

--Tom Pellitieri
  Century Equipment
  Toledo, Ohio
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RE: [U2] Resizing All Files in a System

2004-11-24 Thread Alfke, Colin
I wrote a routine that would run guide with the -R option to create a report 
file. It then parsed the file and did a memresize on the files that required 
resizing. I had some logic so that work files that were empty weren't resized 
smaller. It wasn't that hard.

I know that when you do an ACCT_RESTORE from a Pick system it resizes the 
files. I'm not sure if any of those routines are available anywhere (I never 
bothered to look as they don't work quite right on an NT system).

hth

Colin Alfke


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RE: [U2] Resizing All Files in a System

2004-11-24 Thread Steve Moore
Check out FAST from www.fitzlong.com   
 
We use it regularly on a Universe/NT system and it works great.  I think
they
have a version for Unidata.

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RE: [U2][UD] - Transaction Processing

2004-11-24 Thread Bob Witney
i've got a basic prog that does it if you would like it

bob

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From: Chauhan, Savita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:50 AM
To: Charlie Rubeor
Subject: RE: [U2][UD] - Transaction Processing

Hi Charlie,
Does UNIX keep a user's login history somewhere, i.e.
 his/her login/logout times (not just the last one, but
 for some amount of period in past)? If it does, where
 does it keep it and how can I see it?

Thank you,

Savita Chauhan,
Programmer/Analyst
x:1754 Central Texas College.
---
Change is the only Constant.


That is what user accounting does.  IBM has a whole book on how to manage
this.  I don't have access to an aix server right now, so I can't give you
detailed instructions on how to set it up.  A quick overview:

/var/adm/utmp - keeps a list of current users
/var/adm/wtmp - keeps a list of past login/logout activity
/var/adm/btmp - keeps a list of bad login attempts.  (This is a great place
to look for the root password, btw.)

To activate the process, (acctcon?) I believe that you can use smit.  There
are also a couple of crontab entries that monitor the free space in
/var/adm.

Once activated, the last and lastb commands will display information from
the files listed above.

We are kinda off-topic for a U2 list here.  Unless someone else finds this
interesting, email me directly.  Or maybe the U2 community list?

Hth. 
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RE: [U2] Unidata Odbc

2004-11-24 Thread Amy Cook
Yeah...the frustrating part (for me anyways) is managing the privileges.
Try on the views, hopefully that will doit.
Or...what we've ended up doingis generating the schema as a generic
user (we created a unix account called sqlmgr) then when we deliver an
access database, the password is saved. Anyone creating queries will
login via odbc as sqlmgr.

Just so you know, if you wish to do that now, I believe you'll need to
cleanup the schema then regenerate as the generic user (so everything's
owned by the same person).   I'm not sure how you do that in vsg...i
don't have it loaded right now. But...there's probably an option to do
so?



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Thanks Amy. I was granting Select to Public on the SQL tables , but not
on the views
maybe that could help. The consultant is pointing his ERWIN tool at MS
access ,to show
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RE: [U2] Resizing All Files in a System

2004-11-24 Thread Tom Dodds
I would recommend FAST  from Fitzgerald  Long.  I have used it and it does
a great job, it has all of the manual ness and automation needed to control
your environment. Jeff Fitzgerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Is there a way to semi-automagically resize all the files in a UniData
account/system?

When we used Pick D3, we could run a process which would store the mod to
use on restore in the file definition item.  If we did a full system file
save and restore, the files would be recreated with the new and improved
mod.  We use to do this on a fairly regular basis, but since changing to
UniData, we haven't really addressed this.

I know I can use guide to get suggested resizing, and that I can use
memresize to actually resize an individual file, but is there a way to do
this system wide?  We are considering migrating to a newer machine, and
since we would have a system with no users on it for a while, it seems to be
the best time to implement a massive update.

Pointers to the correct manual would be appreciated, or a brief summary. I'm
certain that this has been discussed before, but I couldn't find it in the
archives.

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Re: [U2] Verify Universe - was [U2] UniObjects and Triggers

2004-11-24 Thread Mats Carlid
OK I'll bite ( again )

yes   the   uvhome/bin/csum script  does check the checksums saved from
the installation  'tape' .
Usage:
cd to uvhome
(bin/)csumlistOfGroups

where   the list is one or more of
 DOCIC OBJSTARTUPUVODBC 
 FILESIZE   JDBC   PORTINGUCI   
DEVELOPGCIMAIN   QA UOJ   

HTH
-- mats


Tom Dodds wrote:

In following Mats lead and poking around in /.../uv/bin there is a script
called csum that seems to do what you want to do, we all want to do.  Not
being a script writer myself we will need a script reader to look at this
and verify that it really does what I think it does.

Script reader anyone??
/.../uv/bin/csum

Tom Dodds
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708-482-4510 Office
 


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Sara Burns wrote:

  

We have solved our problem with the UniObjects by re-installing 
UniVerse after we found the checksum for uvapi_slave was different on 
our two machines.

Is there any way to verify that the UniVerse binaries are correct?

This would have saved us many hours of testing, red herrings and 
general desperation.  There was nothing visible at the file level which 
indicated the file had been updated, only the checksum.  We have been 
having disk errors on the machine and have now found that these 
binaries are on a mirrored set showing errors.  That was a surprise as 
we thought they were on a different disk array.

AIX 5.2 ML_01, UniVerse 10.0.11

Sara Burns

 



Yes,

when you install uv   a checksum check is performed and the checksums
 are kept in .../uv/checksums
 You'll find the code to rerun the check in one of the installation 
scripts (uv.install?).

If they could be corrput reload them from the installation medium.

HTH
-- mats
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RE: [U2][UD] - Transaction Processing

2004-11-24 Thread Chauhan, Savita
Sure, that'll be great.
U can email me directly.

thanks

Savita Chauhan, 
Programmer/Analyst
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i've got a basic prog that does it if you would like it

bob

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-Original Message-
From: Chauhan, Savita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 8:50 AM
To: Charlie Rubeor
Subject: RE: [U2][UD] - Transaction Processing

Hi Charlie,
Does UNIX keep a user's login history somewhere, i.e.
 his/her login/logout times (not just the last one, but
 for some amount of period in past)? If it does, where
 does it keep it and how can I see it?

Thank you,

Savita Chauhan,
Programmer/Analyst
x:1754 Central Texas College.
---
Change is the only Constant.


That is what user accounting does.  IBM has a whole book on how to
manage
this.  I don't have access to an aix server right now, so I can't give
you
detailed instructions on how to set it up.  A quick overview:

/var/adm/utmp - keeps a list of current users
/var/adm/wtmp - keeps a list of past login/logout activity
/var/adm/btmp - keeps a list of bad login attempts.  (This is a great
place
to look for the root password, btw.)

To activate the process, (acctcon?) I believe that you can use smit.
There
are also a couple of crontab entries that monitor the free space in
/var/adm.

Once activated, the last and lastb commands will display information
from
the files listed above.

We are kinda off-topic for a U2 list here.  Unless someone else finds
this
interesting, email me directly.  Or maybe the U2 community list?

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RE: [U2] Resizing All Files in a System

2004-11-24 Thread TVankirk
Kevin,
Keep in mind, you still need a quiet database or you'll have 
numerous file access or corruption issues if processes try to access the 
file(s) while you reseize. Also, you need to be sure to monitor temp space 
or multiple resizes can fill it up and fail. Dynamics use the local space, 
so you need to treat those differently.
I looked at FAST, but due to several limitations, it was not going 
to work in our environment. I created my own program, using guide -r for 
recommendations, that only resizes static files 200meg and under, checks 
temp space before and after(using the new sizing numbers), redirects the 
resizes to an area with enough free space. Dynamics and large files are 
done manually. I also stop and start Unidata, locking out all access to 
the accounts, rerun guide when I am done to check for corruption, and only 
resize files in overflow, never downsizing a file automatically.
There is alot to think about and I'd look long and hard at tools 
like FAST before using them as a cure all, may be a good tool, but I'd be 
prepared for alot of monitoring and manual intervention.
Good luck!





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Can we then assume that you're not interested in a packaged solution
like FAST? 

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Subject: [U2] Resizing All Files in a System

Is there a way to semi-automagically resize all the files in a UniData
account/system?

When we used Pick D3, we could run a process which would store the mod
to use on restore in the file definition item.  If we did a full
system file save and restore, the files would be recreated with the
new and improved
mod.  We use to do this on a fairly regular basis, but since changing
to UniData, we haven't really addressed this.

I know I can use guide to get suggested resizing, and that I can use
memresize to actually resize an individual file, but is there a way to
do this system wide?  We are considering migrating to a newer machine,
and since we would have a system with no users on it for a while, it
seems to be the best time to implement a massive update.

Pointers to the correct manual would be appreciated, or a brief
summary.
I'm certain that this has been discussed before, but I couldn't find
it in the archives.

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RE: [U2] Re: [UD] problem with hex conversions

2004-11-24 Thread Bill H.
Goes to show ya...coming from a Pick background I see nothing wrong with the
results.  :-)

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 Switch to $BASICTYPE 'U' to stop this supposed Pick-Style behaviour.

 Simon

 Ben Gladman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  I'm getting unexpected results from the hex conversions in
 Unidata 6.0.12
 on
  NT:
 
  PROGRAM BJGTEST
  *
  CRT OCONV('1','MO')= : OCONV('1','MO')
  CRT OCONV('1','MO0C')= : OCONV('1','MO0C')
  CRT OCONV('1','MX0C')= : OCONV('1','MX0C')
  CRT OCONV('1','MX')= : OCONV('1','MX')
  CRT ICONV('F','MX')= : ICONV('F','MX')
  *
  STOP
 
 
  the results I get are:
 
  OCONV('1','MO')=001
  OCONV('1','MO0C')=061
  OCONV('1','MX0C')=31
  OCONV('1','MX')=31
  ICONV('F','MX')=
 
  The octal conversions and the hex-ascii conversion seem okay.
 But I would
  expect the fourth line to read '1' or '01', and the fifth line to read
 '15'?
  Is this a problem anyone else gets?
 
  Cheers,
  -Ben
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RE: [U2] Resizing All Files in a System

2004-11-24 Thread Jeff A. Fitzgerald
Thanks to Tom, Steve, Kevin for the kind words about FAST.  FAST isn't a
magic solution, but it can certainly take a lot of the pain out of
resizing.  I'll be happy to field questions about FAST either here or
privately.  FAST is now actively used by over 2,000 shops worldwide on NT,
UNIX and Linux for both UniVerse and UniData.  Obviously, we are pretty
proud of our product!

More info can be had at www.fitzlong.com or email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Our website contains a number of technical papers about files and resizing
that may be helpful.  Peggy and I have also authored a series (6 so far) of
articles in Spectrum magazine about files.  I think you can download these
as .pdf files at http://www.intl-spectrum.com/SPECTRUMMAG.HTML.

Jeff Fitzgerald
Fitzgerald  Long, Inc.

(303) 755-1102

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I would recommend FAST  from Fitzgerald  Long.  I have used it and it does
a great job, it has all of the manual ness and automation needed to control
your environment. Jeff Fitzgerald [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tom Dodds
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Is there a way to semi-automagically resize all the files in a UniData
account/system?

When we used Pick D3, we could run a process which would store the mod to
use on restore in the file definition item.  If we did a full system file
save and restore, the files would be recreated with the new and improved
mod.  We use to do this on a fairly regular basis, but since changing to
UniData, we haven't really addressed this.

I know I can use guide to get suggested resizing, and that I can use
memresize to actually resize an individual file, but is there a way to do
this system wide?  We are considering migrating to a newer machine, and
since we would have a system with no users on it for a while, it seems to be
the best time to implement a massive update.

Pointers to the correct manual would be appreciated, or a brief summary. I'm
certain that this has been discussed before, but I couldn't find it in the
archives.

--Tom Pellitieri
  Century Equipment
  Toledo, Ohio
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RE: [U2] Re: [UD] problem with hex conversions

2004-11-24 Thread Stevenson, Charles
Bill,

You're forgiven  - but just cuz it's Thanksgiving tomorrow.

Chuck Stevenson, old primate


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From: Bill H.

Goes to show ya...coming from a Pick background I see nothing wrong with
the results.  :-)
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Re: [U2] Resizing All Files in a System

2004-11-24 Thread Carole A Cafasso
If you choose to automate the resize, you better be sure to lock users out, 
including any off-hours unattended batch processing. I was part of an 
environment where an evening batch process ran simultaneous with the resize 
and unfortunately the DBA failed to check the file system the next day. 5 
working went by before the users reported strange problems with their 
application - investigation revealed 3 corrupt files. Because of the 
integrated nature of the application, they has to restore from backup back 
to the day before the disaster occurred and the 5 days work had to be 
recreated! A Disaster to Remeber!


At 09:17 AM 11/24/2004 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a way to semi-automagically resize all the files in a UniData
account/system?e
When we used Pick D3, we could run a process which would store the mod to
use on restore in the file definition item.  If we did a full system file
save and restore, the files would be recreated with the new and improved
mod.  We use to do this on a fairly regular basis, but since changing to
UniData, we haven't really addressed this.
I know I can use guide to get suggested resizing, and that I can use
memresize to actually resize an individual file, but is there a way to do
this system wide?  We are considering migrating to a newer machine, and
since we would have a system with no users on it for a while, it seems to
be the best time to implement a massive update.
Pointers to the correct manual would be appreciated, or a brief summary.
I'm certain that this has been discussed before, but I couldn't find it in
the archives.
--Tom Pellitieri
  Century Equipment
  Toledo, Ohio
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RE: [U2] Universe/wIntegrate/Thin Client

2004-11-24 Thread Brutzman, Bill
Please consider re-writing this blurb using indentation and paragraphs.

--Bill
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Hello Everyone,

I am in the midst of thinking up a solution for upgrading dumb terminal/dot
matrix printers at point of sale retail.  We would like to get some new
functionality at these cashiers stations including, printing invoice
receipts on a laser printer, possibly doing credit card auth via web, and
capturing signatures.  Primarily doing the laser printing and then
everything else to follow.  A while back I was trying to see if I could take
the invoice, which is created as a pdf file, transform it to postscript and
echo it thru the parallel 'aux' port on the dumb terminal.  Well this is
just not feasible.  It takes minutes to get that puppy thru to the printer
(the ps file ends up being very large) and you end up needing a special
postscript type printer.  One other thing I did not want to do is to create
a bunch of spooled printers and have the application spool the invoice.  We
are running Linux AS 3.  The spooler sometimes gets sluggish.  Ive had
experience where one printer getting 'hung' can hang the whole spooler (not
just in Linux, but on our old DG and on the older Prime).  So I want the
printing operation to continue to be independent and not interfere with
anything else.   I started looking into wIntegrate and Windows thin clients
as a possible solution.  I figured that the host application could probably
tell wIntegrate to print the document on the local thin client to solve that
problem (invoice being a pdf in a type1 samba share).  I am thinking that we
can link things like credit card auth and signature capture with wIntegrate
as well.  I am looking for anyone who is doing something similar to let me
know if I am on the right track.  I have absolutely no experience with
wIntegrate (I have downloaded the trail version) or windows thin clients.
Does this sound like a messy set up ?  Would this be robust enough to place
at point of sale where the users are basically kids and are by no means
technical ?  Any comments or insight be anyone who has been down this road
would be appreciated ?

Thanks
Anthony Dzikiewicz
Alperts Furniture
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Re: [U2] Universe/wIntegrate/Thin Client

2004-11-24 Thread John Hester
Anthony Dzikiewicz wrote:
Does this sound like a messy set up ?  Would this be robust enough to place
at point of sale where the users are basically kids and are by no means
technical ?  Any comments or insight be anyone who has been down this road
would be appreciated ?
We use thin clients and also do slave printing, but not in conjunction 
with each other.  Combining the two shouldn't be a problem though.  We 
do slave printing for remote users through Accuterm, and it's pretty 
simple to set up.  You just send an escape sequence to the screen, send 
all your print data, then send another escape sequence to terminate the 
print job.  The output goes to whatever Accuterm's default printer is.

If you're going to do this with thin clients, you're going to need, at 
the very least, a beefy Windows 2003 server with terminal services.  You 
may want to add Citrix for better speed and better remote printer 
support.  Your users will log into the server to access their windows 
desktop and have a COM or LPT port mapped to their local thin client's 
printer.

We use the following NeoWare linux thin client, which I highly recommend:
http://www.neoware.com/products/eon/eon_e100.html
You'll want to get the ghostscript and thinprint snap-ins (free). 
Ghostscript will let you use a non-postscript printer to print 
postscript content.

This should be a fairly robust and easily managed environment.  If 
you're using Citrix on the terminal server, support is also enhanced by 
the ability to shadow a user's session and see and manipulate their desktop.

-John
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John Hester
System  Network Administrator
Momentum Group Inc.
(949) 833-8886 x623
http://memosamples.com
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Re: [U2] Resizing All Files in a System

2004-11-24 Thread D Averch
There is an inexpensive tool from U2logic that resizes files using wIntegrate
as the front end called U2ReSizer.  You can find them at www.u2logic.com.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 7:17 AM
Subject: [U2] Resizing All Files in a System


 Is there a way to semi-automagically resize all the files in a UniData
 account/system?

 When we used Pick D3, we could run a process which would store the mod to
 use on restore in the file definition item.  If we did a full system file
 save and restore, the files would be recreated with the new and improved
 mod.  We use to do this on a fairly regular basis, but since changing to
 UniData, we haven't really addressed this.

 I know I can use guide to get suggested resizing, and that I can use
 memresize to actually resize an individual file, but is there a way to do
 this system wide?  We are considering migrating to a newer machine, and
 since we would have a system with no users on it for a while, it seems to
 be the best time to implement a massive update.

 Pointers to the correct manual would be appreciated, or a brief summary.
 I'm certain that this has been discussed before, but I couldn't find it in
 the archives.

 --Tom Pellitieri
   Century Equipment
   Toledo, Ohio
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RE: [U2] Universe/wIntegrate/Thin Client

2004-11-24 Thread Anthony Dzikiewicz
Please consider re-writing this blurb using indentation and paragraphs.

Sorry for the blurbyness of the message.  I find that if spend a lot of time
making it look pretty in my mail client, doesnt mean that it will look good
your mail client.  Mail clients come in many shapes and sizes. 

When I got the message relayed back from the list server, it got
'reformatted' a little and doesnt look like it did when I originally sent
it.

Anyway, sorry to all to be long winded and blurby.

Anthony

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RE: [U2] [Udt] RFS and NFA performance

2004-11-24 Thread Ken Wallis
Martin Phillips wrote:

 I am looking for some information about the performance
 impact of using the
 RFS and NFA components of Unidata..

 1. Does anyone have experience of just how much use of RFS degrades
 performance?  The application concerned does not currently
 use transactions
 though this would be beneficial if the RFS mechanism is to
 give business
 level data integrity.

Martin, my problem with answering this is that while I've got plenty of
experience with UniData sites that run RFS and plenty with ones that don't,
I've never really had a site go from 'without' to 'with' on the same box so
I could do a comparison.

Clearly there is more load on the box with RFS active.  Beyond this, it also
seems clear that batch update operations where the WRITE to READ ratio is
pretty high, and where a large portion of certain key data files gets
updated can run substantially slower with RFS active.  I have a large site
that runs exclusively with RFS during the day, but which switches RFS off
every night to do their EOD because otherwise it takes too long - maybe 50%
longer than the current 3.5 hours or so.

During the day however, they don't seem to have any issues with interactive
response and perceived performance of reporting etc with RFS running.

IBM have always said lots of guarded things about memory requirements and
performance with RFS, but I've never really subscribed to that negativity.
These days 4MB per user isn't actually a great deal, and I'm not sure I've
seen usage that high.

Certainly though, it is vital to configure RFS properly before using it in
production.  Under no circumstances should you just say 'Yes' to the
question udtinstall asks about using RFS and leave it at that.  You need to
allocate log space intelligently, and you need to configure buffer sizes
generously.  If the client wants benefits from RFS then they need to use
archiving so they have a rollforward path, and if you simply switch that on
'out of the box' you are certainly asking for trouble.

Email me offline if you want more details.

 2. The same client is looking to use NFA to access files on
 other systems in
 a wide area network. Any information about experiences of its
 performance
 would be much appreciated.

NFA isn't a performance hog, but you wouldn't want to do all your IO across
it, and you can't cleanly have it interact with RFS - ie you can't have a
transaction which updates both local and remote files.

Cheers,

Ken
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