Re: [U2] VOCLIB and keeping VOC entries Short and Small

[Mark Johnson]

Steve's suggestions are right on the money and have been for the past 30
years.

Virtually every one of my client's system, regardless of flavor, has had
this form of clutter. Oftentimes it's just as simple as copying the VOC item
to the VOCLIB (MD to PROCLIB etc) and changing the VOC item to reference the
VOCLIB item.

The VOC (MD) is rarely SELECTED but since all new items added to the VOC are
appended to the group, the 'lumpy' effect may make certain items appear
'slower'.

My 1 cent.
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From: "Stephen O'Neal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [U2] VOCLIB and keeping VOC entries Short and Small


> The intent of VOCLIB is to reduce the VOC size.  One idea for speed is to
> keep your VOC very small.  This way the search for all items is faster.
>
> For some VOC items, like 'PA'ragrpahs and 'PR'ocs can be sizable (like
> 1,000's of characters).  This causes "Lumpy" records.  (To be shocked,
> sometime LIST VOC SIZE.)
>
> So, the intent was for people to make 'R'emote pointers and to put the
> larger sized items in the VOCLIB.
>
> Yes, if you do this, your system will run faster.
>
> Example:
>
> ED VOC LARGE.PARAGRAPH
> 1) R
> 2) VOCLIB
> 3) LARGE.PARAGRAPH
>
> ED VOCLIB LARGE.PARAGRAPH
> 1) PA Some really large description of the paragraph
> 2) SELECT
> 3) LIST...
>
> While you are at it, you should check your VOC for overflow, which will
> also slow down your system.
>
> For your education,
>Steve
>
>Stephen M. O'Neal
>Lab Services Sales for U2
>IBM SWG Information Management Lab Services
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>
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> Cipollina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >Paul,
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> >Thank you very much.  Turns out we were missing the VOCLIB file.  This
> >is a very useful piece of information.  Is this documented anywhere?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Nick Cipollina
> >
> I've got a feeling VOCLIB isn't created automatically. It's a Pr1me-ism,
> and doesn't contain anything by default, I don't think, so it's odd that
> it's required.
>
> That said, I've never seen an INFORMATION account without it, and I
> think the ODBC stuff originally came from Prime, so it's probably a
> historic hangover.
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[U2] VOCLIB and keeping VOC entries Short and Small

[Stephen O'Neal]

The intent of VOCLIB is to reduce the VOC size.  One idea for speed is to 
keep your VOC very small.  This way the search for all items is faster.

For some VOC items, like 'PA'ragrpahs and 'PR'ocs can be sizable (like 
1,000's of characters).  This causes "Lumpy" records.  (To be shocked, 
sometime LIST VOC SIZE.)

So, the intent was for people to make 'R'emote pointers and to put the 
larger sized items in the VOCLIB.

Yes, if you do this, your system will run faster.

Example:

ED VOC LARGE.PARAGRAPH
1) R
2) VOCLIB
3) LARGE.PARAGRAPH

ED VOCLIB LARGE.PARAGRAPH
1) PA Some really large description of the paragraph
2) SELECT
3) LIST...

While you are at it, you should check your VOC for overflow, which will 
also slow down your system.

For your education,
   Steve

   Stephen M. O'Neal
   Lab Services Sales for U2
   IBM SWG Information Management Lab Services




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Cipollina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Paul,
>
>Thank you very much.  Turns out we were missing the VOCLIB file.  This
>is a very useful piece of information.  Is this documented anywhere?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Nick Cipollina
>
I've got a feeling VOCLIB isn't created automatically. It's a Pr1me-ism, 
and doesn't contain anything by default, I don't think, so it's odd that 
it's required.

That said, I've never seen an INFORMATION account without it, and I 
think the ODBC stuff originally came from Prime, so it's probably a 
historic hangover.

Cheers,
Wol
-- 
Anthony W. Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
'Yings, yow graley yin! Suz ae rikt dheu,' said the blue man, taking the
thimble. 'What *is* he?' said Magrat. 'They're gnomes,' said Nanny. The 
man
lowered the thimble. 'Pictsies!' Carpe Jugulum, Terry Pratchett 1998
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Re: [U2][UV] UO.NET Help

[Anthony W. Youngman]

In message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nick 
Cipollina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

Paul,

Thank you very much.  Turns out we were missing the VOCLIB file.  This
is a very useful piece of information.  Is this documented anywhere?

Thanks,

Nick Cipollina

I've got a feeling VOCLIB isn't created automatically. It's a Pr1me-ism, 
and doesn't contain anything by default, I don't think, so it's odd that 
it's required.


That said, I've never seen an INFORMATION account without it, and I 
think the ODBC stuff originally came from Prime, so it's probably a 
historic hangover.


Cheers,
Wol
--
Anthony W. Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
'Yings, yow graley yin! Suz ae rikt dheu,' said the blue man, taking the
thimble. 'What *is* he?' said Magrat. 'They're gnomes,' said Nanny. The man
lowered the thimble. 'Pictsies!' Carpe Jugulum, Terry Pratchett 1998
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