RE: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house developers

2006-11-13 Thread robwills_u2list
I use the IBM site all the time for Lotus Notes/Domino related 
information.  They have forums and tech notes etc. and none of these are 
password protected.

Incidently I have an IBM ID and password that I received ages ago as a 
Lotus Notes Business Partner.  That password allows me to see the UniVerse 
(and presumably Unidata) tech notes.

Why not become a Lotus Notes business partner (I'm sure it's free) and 
then U2 could access the knowledge base?!

Incidently, I'm a firm believer that keeping knowledge to yourself in 
order to try and retain power or control is ultimately flawed and that 
sharing knowledge is usually a WIN WIN.  If your VAR doesn't agree, you 
could always vote with your feet. 

Regards,

Rob Wills
(rob dot wills at tigerinfotech dot com)

Stevenson, Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote on 
13/11/2006 06:33:56:

 Yes, now it's easy, except for pages that get moved around so bookmarks
 fail,  login confusion that Deb already noted.  But that's a separate
 issue.  (I wonder if the other IBM user groups are complaining about
 that.)
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RE: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house developers

2006-11-13 Thread Debster
Wellthat might be believable with the excepton being that the majority
portion of IBM hasn't a clue as to what U2 is...

It's not just U2 sadly though, AS400 hasn't a clue about RS6000, and worse
with RS6000 not fully understanding those items that can overlay it, ...

It's a prime example of vertical (rather than horizontal) training at its
worst..


 ~ Debster

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Conspiracy Theory:

Maybe IBM does not want a future MV environment, maybe they hope
everyone will go to DB2...if so, then I hope it works. I think more
likely they would go to Microsoft, where information is readily
available.

;-)


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Exactly !

A good knowledge flow opens people's eyes and creates opportunities.

And it's not just an end user issue. Without knowledge flow where will
the next generation of vars come from? Who will bring new blood and
investment? How will we encourage developers into our market ? How much
more difficult are we making  it to sell mv based solutions to end users
by obscuring the full potential of what they are buying ? How many times
have mv-invested companies resorted  to other solutions because they
didn't unow that their existing systems had the capabilities  to deliver
what they needed  all along?

  It is in all our interests - users, vars, consultants - to raise and
keep fresh the profile of this technology. That begins by making sure
people out there can understand what it can achieve for them.

I remember an speech years ago by a mv vendor proudly saying that 80% of
his business was repeat business. He saw that as customer care. I saw it
as lack of outreach. Who was right?

Brian



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From: Ken Wallis[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11/11/06 23:42:25
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.orgu2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house
developers

Chuck Stevenson wrote:

 Interestingly, guys like me don't care, because vars like Strategy
 Seven are nice to us.  It would be end users with curmudgeonly
vars
 that would need a user group to make this end run.   I still think
 someone who cares should submit a U2UG enhancement request and
others
 should second it. Otherwise IBM only hears about you through the
very
 var who is blocking you.

And the odd thing is that it is VARs like S7 who make money from
their
generic skills in the database platforms rather than from working in
specific vertical markets with their applications.  You would have
thought
S7 were the sort of VAR who might consider themselves in danger of
losing
revenue by working to get this information out.

Clearly, however, they must realise that access to information helps
users
understand what is possible and want to make use of the technology.

Cheers,

Ken
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[U2] RE: U2 Users Digest V1 #1394

2006-11-13 Thread Boyd, Diane
I believe the more documentation is open to the public the better.
Look at the large Microsoft site with free training on SQL Server 2005.
Free downloads and tons of help, examples and product documentation. 


If IBM is really committed to marketing MV solutions then it is in
everyone's best interest that MV become public. They do not teach MV
technology in college. Many MV shops find it difficult to hire
programmers and many MV programmers feel that skill is not very
marketable. After twelve years of MV programming, I find a lot of MV
programmers I worked with have changed to other skill sets or are
changing skills to VB.NET and/or Java so that they will have jobs in the
future. 



Sincerely,
Diane Boyd 
MV Programmer 





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Subject: U2 Users Digest V1 #1394


U2 Users Digest   Monday, November 13 2006   Volume 01 : Number
1394



In this issue:

RE: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house developers
RE: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house developers
Re: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house developers
RE: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house developers
RE: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house developers
RE: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house developers

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Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 17:11:13 -
From: Brian Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house developers

Exactly !

A good knowledge flow opens people's eyes and creates opportunities.

And it's not just an end user issue. Without knowledge flow where will
the next generation of vars come from? Who will bring new blood and
investment? How will we encourage developers into our market ? How much
more difficult are we making  it to sell mv based solutions to end users
by obscuring the full potential of what they are buying ? How many times
have mv-invested companies resorted  to other solutions because they
didn't unow that their existing systems had the capabilities  to deliver
what they needed  all along?

  It is in all our interests - users, vars, consultants - to raise and
keep fresh the profile of this technology. That begins by making sure
people out there can understand what it can achieve for them.

I remember an speech years ago by a mv vendor proudly saying that 80% of
his business was repeat business. He saw that as customer care. I saw it
as lack of outreach. Who was right?

Brian



- -Original Message-
From: Ken Wallis[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11/11/06 23:42:25
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.orgu2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house
developers

Chuck Stevenson wrote:

 Interestingly, guys like me don't care, because vars like Strategy
 Seven are nice to us.  It would be end users with curmudgeonly
vars
 that would need a user group to make this end run.   I still think
 someone who cares should submit a U2UG enhancement request and
others
 should second it. Otherwise IBM only hears about you through the
very
 var who is blocking you.

And the odd thing is that it is VARs like S7 who make money from
their
generic skills in the database platforms rather than from working in
specific vertical markets with their applications.  You would have
thought
S7 were the sort of VAR who might consider themselves in danger of
losing
revenue by working to get this information out.

Clearly, however, they must realise that access to information helps
users
understand what is possible and want to make use of the technology.

Cheers,

Ken
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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:57:06 +1300
From: phil walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house developers

Conspiracy Theory:

Maybe IBM does not want a future MV environment, maybe they hope
everyone will go to DB2...if so, then I hope it works. I think more
likely they would go to Microsoft, where information is readily
available.

;-)


- -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Leach
Sent: Monday, 13 November 2006 6:45 a.m.
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house developers

Exactly !

A good knowledge flow opens people's eyes and creates opportunities.

And it's not just an end user issue. Without knowledge flow where will
the next generation of vars come from? Who will bring new blood and
investment? How will we encourage developers into our market ? How much
more difficult are we making  it to sell mv based solutions to end 

RE: [U2] [UV] - defunct processes

2006-11-13 Thread John Rodgers
Hi Debbie

Nice to hear from you.
I got me a 'real' job down here in Tampa.

Thanks for the pointers.

Our sysadmin (as usual) does not know UniVerse so there's a lot of
blind leading the blind going on.

The cross-platform termination sounds plausible but the name of the
parent process (bin/usd /usr/opt/uv/spool/uv) seems to indicate that it
is something to do with print jobs.
Our development box uses UV.NET to share some files with production.
That is not an issue where the production box does not use UV.NET for
the same files.
I'm just not sure how to identify the source of these processes.

It's one of those situations where nobody really knows what is causing
the problem and so no-one (including me grin ) wants to take
ownership.

I'm just hoping I can find some sort of clue to help figure out where to
start looking.


Cheers


JR



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Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 9:06 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] - defunct processes

Hey John!!

I have found

Bad disconnect on telnet sessions (especially those dreaded closing X )

Branching out to NFS shares

AIX it was coupled with Samba (users file not properly maintained)

Check emulator settings

Issues with phantom processes

Check cross-platform processing terminations



Debra A. Fedchin
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Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 8:37 AM
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Subject: [U2] [UV] - defunct processes


UniVerse 9.6.1.6 on HP-UX



We have a mystery on our development box which causes it to crash
(about
weekly).



$ ps -ef

Shows a lot (and I mean, A LOT) of lines like these:



root 18105 20014  1 18:57:34 ? 0:00 defunct


root 21633 20014  0 20:25:35 ? 0:00 defunct


root 18553 20014  0 19:05:34 ? 0:00 defunct




root 20014 1  0  Nov  6  ? 0:53 bin/usd
/usr/opt/uv/spool/uv




the 20014 seems to be the parent.



This does not happen on our production platform which is curious
because
it should be a pretty close replication of our production environment.



We think these are hangovers from print jobs initiated by the scheduler
?

but that is as close as anyone has come to identifying the culprit.



This seems to be a weekly phenomenon and we are investigating the
scheduler contents.



Does anyone have any ideas where these might come from ?





Cheers







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RE: RE: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house developers

2006-11-13 Thread brian
Sorry but I'm going to stand up and defend IBM (for once - grin).

IBM *have* moved the U2 products forward over the last year or so. There was a 
time when for many winters we didn't see significant development on the U2 
platforms themselves, but the additions of XML, web services, data encryption 
and similar features - well, if IBM didn't want a future MV environment they 
*could* have just sat on the products and not enhanced them.

And attitudes at IBM seem to have changed over the past year or so. Two years 
ago it was all DB2, DB2, DB2. Now they seem to have people in place who 
realize that U2 makes money and that it should be supported.

Now it's up to us to do our bit in getting the word out.

Brian

Conspiracy Theory:

Maybe IBM does not want a future MV environment, maybe they hope
everyone will go to DB2...if so, then I hope it works. I think more
likely they would go to Microsoft, where information is readily
available.

;-)


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Leach
Sent: Monday, 13 November 2006 6:45 a.m.
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house developers

Exactly !

A good knowledge flow opens people's eyes and creates opportunities.

And it's not just an end user issue. Without knowledge flow where will
the next generation of vars come from? Who will bring new blood and
investment? How will we encourage developers into our market ? How much
more difficult are we making  it to sell mv based solutions to end users
by obscuring the full potential of what they are buying ? How many times
have mv-invested companies resorted  to other solutions because they
didn't unow that their existing systems had the capabilities  to deliver
what they needed  all along?

  It is in all our interests - users, vars, consultants - to raise and
keep fresh the profile of this technology. That begins by making sure
people out there can understand what it can achieve for them.

I remember an speech years ago by a mv vendor proudly saying that 80% of
his business was repeat business. He saw that as customer care. I saw it
as lack of outreach. Who was right?

Brian



-Original Message-
From: Ken Wallis[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11/11/06 23:42:25
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.orgu2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Access to IBM knowledgebase for in-house
developers

Chuck Stevenson wrote:

 Interestingly, guys like me don't care, because vars like Strategy
 Seven are nice to us.  It would be end users with curmudgeonly
vars
 that would need a user group to make this end run.   I still think
 someone who cares should submit a U2UG enhancement request and
others
 should second it. Otherwise IBM only hears about you through the
very
 var who is blocking you.

And the odd thing is that it is VARs like S7 who make money from
their
generic skills in the database platforms rather than from working in
specific vertical markets with their applications.  You would have
thought
S7 were the sort of VAR who might consider themselves in danger of
losing
revenue by working to get this information out.

Clearly, however, they must realise that access to information helps
users
understand what is possible and want to make use of the technology.

Cheers,

Ken
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RE: [U2] Slow uniobjects connections

2006-11-13 Thread Cordes, Tom (contractor)
Marc,

Is the 'slow' speed compared to a uniobjects connection made some other way?

Tom

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Good evening,
We are experiencing very slow uniobjects (one second to connect) connections
from a DLL which is called from an ASP server aplication. (W2K, UV 10.1).
Does anyone have any experience to share regarding this?
Thanks in advance,
Marc
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[U2] OT:Universe Credit Cards

2006-11-13 Thread Anthony Dzikiewicz
Hello Everyone,

I know this issue has come up before and I guess I cleaned out my office
a little too good.  I lost some responses that I had saved.  Anyway, I
am looking to possibly replace our credit card processing solution.  We
are currently using a DataCap LanTran system.  It is stand alone and for
the most part works without a problem.  However, when there is a problem
the support is the worst - the guy is excellent, but spread too thin.
Especially for a retailer who is very dependent on being able to process
credit cards.  I have seen a company mentioned before that has a set of
routines that can be called from Universe basic to process transactions.
Would someone be willing to share this again ?  Im not sure that I would
go that route, but should I consider it.  Does anyone have experience
with a good credit card solution that has rock solid 24x7 support (well,
we close at 10pm EST) ? 
Thanks
Anthony
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Re: [U2] OT:Universe Credit Cards

2006-11-13 Thread Charles Barouch
Nebula RD has software to do that. Contact Tony:
http://www.nebula-rnd.com/

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Anthony
Dzikiewicz wrote:
| Hello Everyone,
| 
| I know this issue
has come up before and I guess I cleaned out my office
| a little too
good.  I lost some responses that I had saved.  Anyway, I
| am
looking to possibly replace our credit card processing solution.  We
| are currently using a DataCap LanTran system.  It is stand alone and
for
| the most part works without a problem.  However, when there is
a problem
| the support is the worst - the guy is excellent, but
spread too thin.
| Especially for a retailer who is very dependent on
being able to process
| credit cards.  I have seen a company
mentioned before that has a set of
| routines that can be called from
Universe basic to process transactions.
| Would someone be willing to
share this again ?  Im not sure that I would
| go that route, but
should I consider it.  Does anyone have experience
| with a good
credit card solution that has rock solid 24x7 support (well,
| we
close at 10pm EST) ?
| Thanks
| Anthony
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RE: [U2] OT:Universe Credit Cards

2006-11-13 Thread John Hester
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 Anthony Dzikiewicz
 Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:58 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] OT:Universe Credit Cards
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I know this issue has come up before and I guess I cleaned 
 out my office
 a little too good.  I lost some responses that I had saved.  Anyway, I
 am looking to possibly replace our credit card processing 
 solution.

We went through this about a year ago, and ended up going with a
non-Pick specific solution.  We're using Payflow Pro from PayPal
(formerly Verisign).  It uses an XML web service, and the implementation
was relatively trivial.  We just assemble an XML request in UV, then
feed it to PayPal's Payflow executable via a basic EXECUTE SH.  The
executable sends the request to the web service and returns an XML
response.  We have a login to their site that lets us view all of our
transactions and print reports.

-John
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Re: [U2] OT:Universe Credit Cards

2006-11-13 Thread jpb
Are you doing point-of-sale or are you looking for a company to do billing 
of credit cards for you?

Jerry

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Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:58 PM
Subject: [U2] OT:Universe Credit Cards



Hello Everyone,

I know this issue has come up before and I guess I cleaned out my office
a little too good.  I lost some responses that I had saved.  Anyway, I
am looking to possibly replace our credit card processing solution.  We
are currently using a DataCap LanTran system.  It is stand alone and for
the most part works without a problem.  However, when there is a problem
the support is the worst - the guy is excellent, but spread too thin.
Especially for a retailer who is very dependent on being able to process
credit cards.  I have seen a company mentioned before that has a set of
routines that can be called from Universe basic to process transactions.
Would someone be willing to share this again ?  Im not sure that I would
go that route, but should I consider it.  Does anyone have experience
with a good credit card solution that has rock solid 24x7 support (well,
we close at 10pm EST) ?
Thanks
Anthony
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RE: [U2] OT:Universe Credit Cards

2006-11-13 Thread Anthony Dzikiewicz
It is point of sale and we accept debit cards.  We are currently on a
batch or specifically 'not host based' system.  We send a settlement
file at the end of the night.  This is not good when accepting debit
cards in general.  In the event that the batch gets clobbered, you dont
have the ability to reenter the debit cards.  If you have a host based
system then the transactions reside there and not on my machines.  I
like this better.  It off loads some responsibility (from my limited
staff) to not have these worries. 
Anthony

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Are you doing point-of-sale or are you looking for a company to do
billing 
of credit cards for you?
Jerry

- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Dzikiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:58 PM
Subject: [U2] OT:Universe Credit Cards


 Hello Everyone,

 I know this issue has come up before and I guess I cleaned out my 
 office a little too good.  I lost some responses that I had saved.  
 Anyway, I am looking to possibly replace our credit card processing 
 solution.  We are currently using a DataCap LanTran system.  It is 
 stand alone and for the most part works without a problem.  However, 
 when there is a problem the support is the worst - the guy is 
 excellent, but spread too thin. Especially for a retailer who is very 
 dependent on being able to process credit cards.  I have seen a 
 company mentioned before that has a set of routines that can be called

 from Universe basic to process transactions. Would someone be willing 
 to share this again ?  Im not sure that I would go that route, but 
 should I consider it.  Does anyone have experience with a good credit 
 card solution that has rock solid 24x7 support (well, we close at 10pm

 EST) ? Thanks Anthony
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Re: [U2] [UV] Access Violation on Windows 2003

2006-11-13 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Jordan 
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We used Windows Copy, xcopy and did a backup and restore and none of them
resolved the problem


xcopy /h

(if the h is missing, then files like .type30 don't get copied ...)


Regards

David Jordan
Managing Consultant


Cheers,
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[U2] Re: U2 Users Digest V1 #1395

2006-11-13 Thread Matt
Hello:

I'll be on vacation from Monday 11/13 through Friday 11/17, and I will not be 
checking e-mail during this time.

If you have an urgent support issue, please page your primary technical support 
representative directly.

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RE: [U2] OT:Universe Credit Cards

2006-11-13 Thread John Hester
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Anthony Dzikiewicz
 Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:58 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] OT:Universe Credit Cards
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I know this issue has come up before and I guess I cleaned 
 out my office
 a little too good.  I lost some responses that I had saved.  Anyway, I
 am looking to possibly replace our credit card processing 
 solution.

I should have also mentioned in my original reply, I've got a relatively
short UV basic testing program (about 80 lines) that connects to a dummy
version of the Payflow Pro web service for initial testing.  I'd be
happy to send it to you off-list if you're interested.  You'll need to
get a login and password from PayPal to actually test it out, but seeing
the UV code may give you an idea of what would be involved in
integrating it into your application.

-John
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RE: [U2] [UV] - defunct processes

2006-11-13 Thread Debster
Yeah...something is probably weird with the configuration connecting the
network printers.  I had the same type of situation at a site in
Wilkes-Barre PA. What I did was change the cron kickoff of the day end
procedure to shut everything down and then restart everything, including
restarting the printers prior to processing.  This would kick everyone off,
and clear any print jobs that hung.  This happens alot if you use form
queues set up to handle specialized printing along with funky print drivers
(flipping from raw, pcl and pdf) Another culprit could be that there are
printers assigned that are no longer active or changed, so check what
printers are listed when checking uv.restart.

Be forewarnedI had it become so bad sucking up sessions that there were
memory issues making it difficult to restart uv!

Glad to hear you settled in.

As for me, I'm doing a 90 day try and buy at a spot where I did a JDE
install as a Project manager...now I'm cleaning up crappy data, and
re-engineering such simple things as validating addresses!  Maybe even
bringing them into this decade by utilizing something other than odbc
(bleh!) Could it be uniobjects?  intercall?  brush the C cobwebs from my
brain?

Hopefully I'll return to my former status before the holidays...



Debster
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Hi Debbie

Nice to hear from you.
I got me a 'real' job down here in Tampa.

Thanks for the pointers.

Our sysadmin (as usual) does not know UniVerse so there's a lot of
blind leading the blind going on.

The cross-platform termination sounds plausible but the name of the
parent process (bin/usd /usr/opt/uv/spool/uv) seems to indicate that it
is something to do with print jobs.
Our development box uses UV.NET to share some files with production.
That is not an issue where the production box does not use UV.NET for
the same files.
I'm just not sure how to identify the source of these processes.

It's one of those situations where nobody really knows what is causing
the problem and so no-one (including me grin ) wants to take
ownership.

I'm just hoping I can find some sort of clue to help figure out where to
start looking.


Cheers


JR



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Hey John!!

I have found

Bad disconnect on telnet sessions (especially those dreaded closing X )

Branching out to NFS shares

AIX it was coupled with Samba (users file not properly maintained)

Check emulator settings

Issues with phantom processes

Check cross-platform processing terminations



Debra A. Fedchin
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UniVerse 9.6.1.6 on HP-UX



We have a mystery on our development box which causes it to crash
(about
weekly).



$ ps -ef

Shows a lot (and I mean, A LOT) of lines like these:



root 18105 20014  1 18:57:34 ? 0:00 defunct


root 21633 20014  0 20:25:35 ? 0:00 defunct


root 18553 20014  0 19:05:34 ? 0:00 defunct




root 20014 1  0  Nov  6  ? 0:53 bin/usd
/usr/opt/uv/spool/uv




the 20014 seems to be the parent.



This does not happen on our production platform which is curious
because
it should be a pretty close replication of our production environment.



We think these are hangovers from print jobs initiated by the scheduler
?

but that is as close as anyone has come to identifying the culprit.



This seems to be a weekly phenomenon and we are investigating the
scheduler contents.



Does anyone have any ideas where these might come from ?





Cheers







JR
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