RE: [U2] UniObjects in Web App
For anyone not familiar with this area: You can make use UO.NET with ASP, though you need to call the .NET client side interface from a COM wrapper. That is: ASP>Wrapper>UO.NET>U2 Similarly, you can use the UniObjects COM component from .NET: .NET Client>Wrapper>UO>U2 Personally I'm more of a purist and prefer either COM or .NET all the way through. In real life we're frequently finding our .NET code called from COM applications like Microsoft Office, or making use of existing COM DLLs from within our .NET code. There are good reasons to use one or the other, and real pains sometimes in mixing the two. But what's important here is that it looks like Kathy believes that changing the communications components may require completely changing the web GUI. That is not correct. Make the decision about switching from ASP to ASP.NET on its own merits, and switching UO to UO.NET or other components on their own merits as well. .NET isn't just another technology for its own sake, it fixes a Lot of the problems of prior technologies. The more you use .NET all the way through the better. But don't feel like you're forced to do a mass conversion or nothing at all. Feel free to contact me off-list if that needs clarification. Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com > From: Symeon Breen > Sorry i have only ever played with uniobjects with ASP > and never used it in anger - i use uniobjects.net - it > is correct you should not use the old uniobjects with > .net but use the uniobjects.net api as this is fully > managed code. > > However I am quite sure some people on this list do > use uniobjects with asp. > From: Kathy_NC > > We are using classic ASP and UniObjects (not .NET). > > > > I'm trying to figure out if I need to re-write this > > app using .Net or take some other approach to solve > > the issues we're having. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] IDE
Try UniVerse 10.3 and the new and free 'Basic Developer Toolkit' using Eclipse... cheers, David -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org]on Behalf Of Cooper, Rudy Sent: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 7:55 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] IDE Hi List, I need some recommendations. We've been coding using our UV text editor. You know the routine, copy and paste from 1 program to another. I have finally been given the green light to get pricing on a tool for development, creating forms (screens), document as you go, reusability, gui-izing, etc. Any recommendations? I was thinking of SB+, Redback, and even U2.NET (Since we have access to visual studio). We're a development team of 3 for about 100 UV users. If your using any of the newer development tools, I'd really like your opinion, good or bad. thx, rudy Rudy Cooper Technical Project Lead Sage Publications Inc. 2455 Teller Road Thousand Oaks, CA. 91320 USA T: 805.410.7724 www.sagepub.com Los Angeles | London | New Delhi Singapore | Washington DC The natural home for authors, editors & societies Please consider the environment before printing this email --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ Disclaimer Notice This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action or place any reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Ultradata immediately on +61 3 9291 1600. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Ultradata Australia Pty. Ltd. To unsubscribe from receiving commercial electronic messages from Ultradata Australia please email unsubscr...@ultradata.com.au with the subject heading "Unsubscribe". --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] IDE
1. IBM has done a lot of work recently with U2 Web Development Environment (formerly called RedBack). I like the idea using JEE with U2. There is the new IBM WebSphere DataStage Server for U2. 2. Consider using Adobe Flex as a front-end with UniObjects for Java. It is noteworthy that IBM recently bought ILOG, a company that sells Elixer, an RIA Flex add-on tool. --Bill -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Cooper, Rudy Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:55 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] IDE Hi List, I need some recommendations. We've been coding using our UV text editor. You know the routine, copy and paste from 1 program to another. I have finally been given the green light to get pricing on a tool for development, creating forms (screens), document as you go, reusability, gui-izing, etc. Any recommendations? I was thinking of SB+, Redback, and even U2.NET (Since we have access to visual studio). We're a development team of 3 for about 100 UV users. If your using any of the newer development tools, I'd really like your opinion, good or bad. thx, Rudy Cooper Technical Project Lead Sage Publications Inc. 2455 Teller Road Thousand Oaks, CA. 91320 USA T: 805.410.7724 www.sagepub.com Los Angeles | London | New Delhi Singapore | Washington DC The natural home for authors, editors & societies Please consider the environment before printing this email --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] IDE
Hi List, I need some recommendations. We've been coding using our UV text editor. You know the routine, copy and paste from 1 program to another. I have finally been given the green light to get pricing on a tool for development, creating forms (screens), document as you go, reusability, gui-izing, etc. Any recommendations? I was thinking of SB+, Redback, and even U2.NET (Since we have access to visual studio). We're a development team of 3 for about 100 UV users. If your using any of the newer development tools, I'd really like your opinion, good or bad. thx, rudy Rudy Cooper Technical Project Lead Sage Publications Inc. 2455 Teller Road Thousand Oaks, CA. 91320 USA T: 805.410.7724 www.sagepub.com Los Angeles | London | New Delhi Singapore | Washington DC The natural home for authors, editors & societies Please consider the environment before printing this email --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UniObjects in Web App
Sorry i have only ever played with uniobjects with ASP and never used it in anger - i use uniobjects.net - it is correct you should not use the old uniobjects with .net but use the uniobjects.net api as this is fully managed code. However I am quite sure some people on this list do use uniobjects with asp. Rgds Symeon. -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kathy_NC Sent: 16 March 2009 14:49 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] UniObjects in Web App We are using classic ASP and UniObjects (not .NET). The forum posting I'm referring to is from Jan. 2007 and says "the current version doesn't do too well with .Net - it is not thread safe, which limits SOME of the things you can do with it (ie don't try using it through a web server)". Here's the link: http://212.241.202.162/cms/cmsforum.wsp?action=topic&forum=1&topic=26 http://212.241.202.162/cms/cmsforum.wsp?action=topic&forum=1&topic=26 I know forum posts are not always accurate and the IBM website indicates that both UniObjects and UniObjects.net are fine for web apps. FWIW, the error we're getting in IIS is "A trappable error occurred in an external object. The script cannot continue running". What's strange is that even when we see that error, the app sometimes continues working and other times we have to restart IIS. I'm trying to figure out if I need to re-write this app using .Net or take some other approach to solve the issues we're having. I'm also wondering if isolating this app into it's own application pool in IIS would make a difference (I understand that may be a question for an IIS forum). Thanks for your response. Symeon Breen wrote: > > In 2006 the latest would have been asp.net and uniobjecs.net - this is > still > the latest and recommended path. It certainly works on very busy websites. > > > > -Original Message- > From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org > [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kathy_NC > Sent: 16 March 2009 12:26 > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: [U2] UniObjects in Web App > > I wrote a web application using UniObjects and ASP back in 2006. It has > been > working, but was occasionally giving errors which would be solved by > restarting IIS. Now that a lot more people are visiting the web pages, > the > frequency of the errors has increased to the point that it has become a > major problem. Last week I read a forum post from a couple of years ago > that UniObjects is not thread safe and that it shouldn't be used on a web > server (I wish I had known that earlier). I know I'm using an older > version > of UniObjects. Is there a newer version that is thread safe or is there a > way to make UniObjects thread safe? Or should I be looking at other > products? If I should be looking at other products, what are your > recommendations? > > Thanks, > Kathy > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/UniObjects-in-Web-App-tp22537003p22537003.html > Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/UniObjects-in-Web-App-tp22537003p22539827.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UniObjects in Web App
We are using classic ASP and UniObjects (not .NET). The forum posting I'm referring to is from Jan. 2007 and says "the current version doesn't do too well with .Net - it is not thread safe, which limits SOME of the things you can do with it (ie don't try using it through a web server)". Here's the link: http://212.241.202.162/cms/cmsforum.wsp?action=topic&forum=1&topic=26 http://212.241.202.162/cms/cmsforum.wsp?action=topic&forum=1&topic=26 I know forum posts are not always accurate and the IBM website indicates that both UniObjects and UniObjects.net are fine for web apps. FWIW, the error we're getting in IIS is "A trappable error occurred in an external object. The script cannot continue running". What's strange is that even when we see that error, the app sometimes continues working and other times we have to restart IIS. I'm trying to figure out if I need to re-write this app using .Net or take some other approach to solve the issues we're having. I'm also wondering if isolating this app into it's own application pool in IIS would make a difference (I understand that may be a question for an IIS forum). Thanks for your response. Symeon Breen wrote: > > In 2006 the latest would have been asp.net and uniobjecs.net - this is > still > the latest and recommended path. It certainly works on very busy websites. > > > > -Original Message- > From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org > [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kathy_NC > Sent: 16 March 2009 12:26 > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: [U2] UniObjects in Web App > > I wrote a web application using UniObjects and ASP back in 2006. It has > been > working, but was occasionally giving errors which would be solved by > restarting IIS. Now that a lot more people are visiting the web pages, > the > frequency of the errors has increased to the point that it has become a > major problem. Last week I read a forum post from a couple of years ago > that UniObjects is not thread safe and that it shouldn't be used on a web > server (I wish I had known that earlier). I know I'm using an older > version > of UniObjects. Is there a newer version that is thread safe or is there a > way to make UniObjects thread safe? Or should I be looking at other > products? If I should be looking at other products, what are your > recommendations? > > Thanks, > Kathy > > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/UniObjects-in-Web-App-tp22537003p22537003.html > Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > --- > u2-users mailing list > u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/UniObjects-in-Web-App-tp22537003p22539827.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UniObjects in Web App
In 2006 the latest would have been asp.net and uniobjecs.net - this is still the latest and recommended path. It certainly works on very busy websites. -Original Message- From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kathy_NC Sent: 16 March 2009 12:26 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] UniObjects in Web App I wrote a web application using UniObjects and ASP back in 2006. It has been working, but was occasionally giving errors which would be solved by restarting IIS. Now that a lot more people are visiting the web pages, the frequency of the errors has increased to the point that it has become a major problem. Last week I read a forum post from a couple of years ago that UniObjects is not thread safe and that it shouldn't be used on a web server (I wish I had known that earlier). I know I'm using an older version of UniObjects. Is there a newer version that is thread safe or is there a way to make UniObjects thread safe? Or should I be looking at other products? If I should be looking at other products, what are your recommendations? Thanks, Kathy -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/UniObjects-in-Web-App-tp22537003p22537003.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] UniObjects in Web App
I wrote a web application using UniObjects and ASP back in 2006. It has been working, but was occasionally giving errors which would be solved by restarting IIS. Now that a lot more people are visiting the web pages, the frequency of the errors has increased to the point that it has become a major problem. Last week I read a forum post from a couple of years ago that UniObjects is not thread safe and that it shouldn't be used on a web server (I wish I had known that earlier). I know I'm using an older version of UniObjects. Is there a newer version that is thread safe or is there a way to make UniObjects thread safe? Or should I be looking at other products? If I should be looking at other products, what are your recommendations? Thanks, Kathy -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/UniObjects-in-Web-App-tp22537003p22537003.html Sent from the U2 - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
