Re: [U2] [UD] Killing a UO connection

2010-12-30 Thread Symeon Breen
We quite often get UO processes hanging on out udt box, deleteuser or kill
-9 is what i usually do and they always hang around in listuser for atleast
5 mins - it is a real pain!

 

 

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: 29 December 2010 23:15
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] [UD] Killing a UO connection

 

Kevin:

Thanks.  I don't shutdown UniData (the -f is unnecessary (used only
for stopud) and stopudt  pid [pidM... pidN] will stop one or more
unidata processes).  When I use UniAdmin to Logoff a user there's
approximately a 30 second pause between logging off the user/pid and the
user disappearing from the LISTUSER command.  I didn't realize doing
this through UniAdmin could potentially corrupt files or interrupt writes!

I'm not sure where I got the udtkill.exe information from but I
substituted deleteuser for that executable.  Only He knows if this
will work properly!

Thanks again,

Bill


Kevin King said the following on 12/29/2010 2:18 PM:
 Two things come immediately to mind... First, to force people off you're
 shutting down Unidata altogether?  Seems a bit harsh, that's all I'm
 saying.  Second, what about deleteuser instead of udtkill?  I'm not a fan
of
 deleteuser (because even the documentation says it can cause corruption)
but
 that's the command that I understand is supposed to be used in place of
 UniAdmin to force a user down.


 
 Subject:  [UD] Killing a UO connection
 Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 13:48:48 -0800
 From: Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.net
 To:   U2 Mail List U2-users@listserver.u2ug.org


 I'm running UO for most of the connectivity to our application.
 Occasionally, a UO connection from DesignBais gets locked and I can only
 get rid of it via UniAdmin. I have a BASIC program I run to delete
 these connections and it mostly works. However, occasionally it
 doesn't. Here's the code in use in BASIC:

 IF OptionNos NE FORCE THEN
PerformVerb = stopudt -f 
 END ELSE
PerformVerb = udtkill.exe 
 END

 Supposedly this was supposed to do the trick, but it doesn't. Does
 anyone know what is used by UniAdmin to clear the connection so I can
 program it into BASIC?

 Thanks,

 Bill Haskett
 Advantos Systems, Inc.
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Re: [U2] ViaDuct problem

2010-12-30 Thread Les Hewkin
Hi, in the UK it used to be ANJEC that supported ViaDuct, there used to
be a nice man called Dick Chatter who knew it inside out, don't know if
he's still there or if they still support it but it could be worth an
Email. There web site is www.anjec.co.uk.  How do I know this? I worked
there for a short time...

Cheers

Les Sherlock Hewkin 
Senior Project Manager
Finance  HR Systems, I.T. Department
T 01604 592289, M 07917 856195
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Oaks, Harold
Sent: 28 December 2010 19:47
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] ViaDuct problem

Tony, thanks for your insights.  Thanks to others too.

My end users are criminal justice folks, so indeed a pretty focused
audience.
Based on that and several other considerations, I'm going to take a hard
look at AccuTerm.

Thanks-
Harold

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 10:10 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] ViaDuct problem

It's sort of weird to see AccuTerm being investigated like it's a
newcomer to be compared to SecureCRT.  I hope this review will be
helpful, by someone who has used them all.

Back in the late 80's to early 90's I was a ViaDuct fan.  Around
1994 I was introduced to wIntegrate and found it more capable.
Around 1995 I was introduced to AccuTerm and I found a permanent home.
AccuTerm is quite simply (IMHO) the best terminal emulator in the MV
industry.  It has a ton of features that every MV developer can
appreciate.  Just get it and start using it and you'll see what I mean.
There is a helpful user forum, a lot of people who know it very well,
excellent product support with rapid code changes if required, and you
can get AccuTerm GUI training.

No matter what you do, you're going to have to get away from ViaDuct,
and if you go to anything else there is going to be a lot of conversion
effort.  This is the price that's paid for building so heavily into a
specific product.  For better or worse you'd do the same thing with
AccuTerm but if you're going to get in deep with any product, this is
a reasonable one.

While I recommend AccuTerm GUI for a Pick developer who doesn't like to
use mainstream tools, I personally don't think it's right business
approach for a diverse end-user base.  It's thick-client only and
connects via Telnet or SSH.  That is a fine solution for focused
audiences.  If you have any interest in an extranet or internet audience
where a browser is used, then you may want to invest your time in
mainstream tools.  Personally I use AccuTerm all the time to get into
all MV environments while I'm building browser GUI - these things are
not in conflict.  AccuTerm does have AccuTerm for Internet Explorer
which is a plugin to allow browser users to access your system, but when
people say they want a browser UI this isn't what they have in mind.
Try it for yourself.

I should also mention that the AnzioWin terminal emulator from Rasmussen
Software (anzio.com) seems to be a more apples to apples competitor
for SecureCRT.  I wish I could take all the mainstream features of
AnzioWin and mash them up with the MV-specific features of AccuTerm.  I
actually use both of these products, having used SecureCRT, Putty, and
other mainstream options in the past.

If you go to PickWiki you'll see other emulators documented, including
Winnix which deserves a fair evaluation:
http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TerminalEmulators

HTH
Tony Gravagno
Nebula Research and Development
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and provides related development services
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 From: Harold.Oaks
I've always considered AccuTerm the 'other' main player in the MV 
terminal emulator market, and thought about going to them but 
conversion of the programs to use their forms would be a lot of 
workwheras the code to run Viaduct forms is embedding subroutine calls 
in
the Basic code. That is, they are quite different.   
Do others have an opinion of AccuTerm versus SecureCRT?

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Re: [U2] Viewpoint Emulation

2010-12-30 Thread inquieti

Hi Marc

The solution is quite simple:-
The following example uses /u1/uv for the UniVerse home directory and 
vt100 as the terminal type. Substitute in the correct information for 
your system.

cd /u1/uv/sample
/u1/uv/bin/uvtidc vt100  myvt100
vi myvt100
within vi, search for the string ( /$5 ) and delete all ocurrances.
/u1/uv/bin/uvtic -a myvt100

HTH

Caminiti, Marc wrote:
 
 We currently run viewpoint emulation, but there have been some requests
 to be able to connect to our system via an iPad.  I see that there is an
 software package out there called iSSH that will allow the connection to
 our system, but it does not have the viewpoint emulation.
 
  
 
 If I connect to our system with a vt100 emulation, and issue a TERM
 vt100 from TCL, our menu options work fine, but it seems like any
 programs where we use the @(#,#) to position the cursor a $5 appears
 on the screen then the text.
 
  
 
 This little program
 
 CRT @(0,0):@(-1):HELLO
 
 CRT @(5,5):GOOD BYE
 
  
 
 Clears the screen, puts HELLO at the upper left, but then in position
 5,5 it displays $5GOOD BYE
 
  
 
 Is there a termcap definition that I need to change, or a TERM value I
 need to change?
 
  
 
 We run RHEL 5.3, UV 10.2.7
 
  
 
 Thanks in Advance
 
 marc
 
  
 
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[U2] [UV] PORT.STATUS questions.

2010-12-30 Thread Don Robinson
Hello all,

We are running Universe 11.1.17 on Aix 5.3.

I use PORT.STATUS for several function within programs by capturing the output 
and parsing it. I have a couple of problems with this.

First, only one user at a time can run the command and this causes random 
failure of the programs.
Second, the output can vary depending on options and success or failure of the 
command.

So, is there a callable routine to get the same info in a cleaner way?

I need things like is port ### logged in or a list of ports logged in with a 
specific login id, etc. In others words, the same info but in a more usable 
format.

Also, PORT.STATUS from within Universe gives an error for options like PID and 
FILEMAP but works ok from the AIX prompt, why?

Thanks in advance, Don Robinson
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Re: [U2] [UV] PORT.STATUS questions.

2010-12-30 Thread Martin Phillips

Hi Don,

It may be easier simply to add a program to the LOGIN and ON.EXIT paragraphs 
to maintain a file with the specific details that you want available.



Also, PORT.STATUS from within Universe gives an error for options
like PID and FILEMAP but works ok from the AIX prompt, why?


These options are normally only present in the UV account VOC but there is 
no reason why they cannot be copied to other VOC files.



Martin Phillips
Ladybridge Systems Ltd
17b Coldstream Lane, Hardingstone, Northampton NN4 6DB, England
+44 (0)1604-709200 


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Re: [U2] [UV] PORT.STATUS questions.

2010-12-30 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 12/30/2010 8:46:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
donr_w...@yahoo.com writes:


 I use PORT.STATUS for several function within programs by capturing the 
 output 
 and parsing it. I have a couple of problems with this.
 
 First, only one user at a time can run the command and this causes random 
 failure of the programs.
 Second, the output can vary depending on options and success or failure of 
 the 
 command.
 
 So, is there a callable routine to get the same info in a cleaner way?
 

Yes.  If you have a budget.
The solution is rather elegant, but also proprietary... to me.
You have to buy a license.  I stopped giving away free software when real 
estate went South :)

Will Johnson
Fast Forward Technologies
831 477 7125
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Re: [U2] [UV] PORT.STATUS questions.

2010-12-30 Thread Dan Fitzgerald

Did real estate prices also cause you to stop putting [ad] in your 
advertisements?
 
 From: fft2...@aol.com
 Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:19:17 -0500
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] PORT.STATUS questions.
 
 In a message dated 12/30/2010 8:46:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
 donr_w...@yahoo.com writes:
 
 
  I use PORT.STATUS for several function within programs by capturing the 
  output 
  and parsing it. I have a couple of problems with this.
  
  First, only one user at a time can run the command and this causes random 
  failure of the programs.
  Second, the output can vary depending on options and success or failure of 
  the 
  command.
  
  So, is there a callable routine to get the same info in a cleaner way?
  
 
 Yes. If you have a budget.
 The solution is rather elegant, but also proprietary... to me.
 You have to buy a license. I stopped giving away free software when real 
 estate went South :)
 
 Will Johnson
 Fast Forward Technologies
 831 477 7125
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[U2] [OT]FW: [Autoreply] Re: [UV] PORT.STATUS questions.

2010-12-30 Thread Dan Fitzgerald

Haydon Bishop, eat your heart out.
 
From: gl...@glennsallis.de
To: dangf...@hotmail.com
Subject: [Autoreply] Re: [U2] [UV] PORT.STATUS questions.
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:22:49 +0100

Guten Tag,
 
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Januar 2011 bin ich wieder verfügbar und werde sobald wie möglich an diesem Tag 
auf Ihre Email reagieren.
 
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To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:22:30 -0500
Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] PORT.STATUS questions.

 
Did real estate prices also cause you to stop putting [ad] in your 
advertisements?
 
 From: fft2...@aol.com
 Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 13:19:17 -0500
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] PORT.STATUS questions.
 
 In a message dated 12/30/2010 8:46:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
 donr_w...@yahoo.com writes:
 
 
  I use PORT.STATUS for several function within programs by capturing the 
  output 
  and parsing it. I have a couple of problems with this.
  
  First, only one user at a time can run the command and this causes random 
  failure of the programs.
  Second, the output can vary depending on options and success or failure of 
  the 
  command.
  
  So, is there a callable routine to get the same info in a cleaner way?
  
 
 Yes. If you have a budget.
 The solution is rather elegant, but also proprietary... to me.
 You have to buy a license. I stopped giving away free software when real 
 estate went South :)
 
 Will Johnson
 Fast Forward Technologies
 831 477 7125
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