Re: [U2] UniVerse on Windows unclassified

2012-01-17 Thread Holt, Jake
Check one of the working users to see if the DBMS path is in home directory in 
AD.  I'm pretty sure you still need to enter the path there if you set network 
services  telnet  User Policy to Home Directory.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kathleené M Hunter
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 7:58 PM
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David,

Have you client look at one of the users that is working. You will find 
that they are an admin on the UniVerse box.  If they want the user to be 
prompted for the account.  If they want the user to log into a specific account 
then they need to change the user policy on the telnet services to be ANY 
UV.ACCOUNT and then place the user in the UV.LOGIN and then they will go to 
that account.

Note I have found problem with this working on some versions of 
UniVerse and Windows with a DNS other than the UniVerse Server.

Kathleené M Hunter

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of MACK ANDREW, MR
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Hi David,

Confirm that the UV.LOGINS entry for the user is correct. Whilst they are in 
the UV account, have them ED UV.LOGINS username. If they are a domain user 
their record should look like this:

ED UV.LOGINS username
5 lines long.

: P
0001: domain i.e BOBCOM
0002:
0003: uv account path i.e D:\WORK\WORKACCOUNT
0004:
0005: free text description of user i.e Mr B. Smith Bottom at line 5.
: Q

Cheers,

Andrew


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Wolverton
Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:35 a.m.
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Subject: [U2] UniVerse on Windows

I have a customer who is setting up a brand new user in UV on Windows -- this 
is a running machine, has been for years -- but the first new employee is a 
long while.

This new user, when they get the Telnet log on and put in their user 
name/password is NOT being asked for the path to account they want to go into.  
They are being 'dumped' into the UV account.  And then they cannot 'log to' 
anywhere else.

The customer swears this new user is built just like all others -- a Domain 
User with 'User Rights' on the UV Server.
Rocket tech support has said the is fix is that users HAVE to have Admin rights 
in order to be prompted for the 'UniVerse account'

Something seems wrong with that answer.  I mean, I am guessing it will fix the 
issue, but I hate passing out Admin rights when the real answer is probably 
something else.

So -- What else might be the cause here?? (I am WAY more UD than UV, so any 
idea will likely be something I have NOT tried yet!)

Thanks -
David W.


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Re: [U2] Brilliant? or not?

2012-01-17 Thread Charlie Noah

Thanks for those kind words, Jerry.

Charlie

On 01-16-2012 10:16 PM, Jerry wrote:
I can vouch for Charlies code because I still work on some that he 
wrote over 13 years ago. Universe is much more forgiving on 'nix 
systems. On Windows, not so much. Of course that may be because 'nix 
systems are more forgiving than Windows. When I come across code such 
as the one that started this thread, I usually figure it was done by 
someone that knew they wouldn't have to work on the code again. It's 
good to learn new and better ways to program but wisdom should tell 
you whether or not it should be used. Most of us, on this list, have 
been programming for several decades and know what we had to go 
through to get to this point. If we want new programmers to jump on 
board we need to remember what it took and give them a break. It's 
nice to show off but does it do your company or clients any good if 
others have to take days, even minutes, to figure out what you did.


Jerry

On 1/16/2012 6:17 PM, Charlie Noah wrote:

Hi George,

Are there any implementations now that don't support X += 1? Not that I
have a problem with X = X + 1 - works just fine and is very clear. I
usually try to code to the common denominator, within reason, of course.
Over my 34 years in the biz I've been through a lot of conversions of
one MV to another. The most dreaded part was finding and fixing things
that worked on the old system but not on the new. Universe is famous for
being very forgiving and figuring out what you really meant. Jbase not
so much. We spent a lot of time on issues like that.

Regards,
Charlie Noah

On 01-16-2012 12:53 PM, George Gallen wrote:

This is one of the reasons why I continue to x=x+1 instead of x++

Not all languages support the ++, but they all support x=x+1

George

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Gravagno

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From: Charles_Shaffer
Aside from it not being readable, compacting C code
like that can reduce portability. Different compilers
may evaluate complex, compacted code differently.

Same thing has actually happened with BASIC code that's ported
from one platform to another.

Rule of thumb: Don't get cute. Spell out the code so that any
dumb compiler or programmer can read it.

On-topic: that makes my response to this thread, not.

One of our colleagues from the mid 80's wrote code that was so
clean I liked to say we could eat off of it. I think he still
reads this forum: So to Mark Vander Veen, here we are over 20
years later and I Still appreciate your code. Now THAT is
Brilliant.

T

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[U2] brillant or not

2012-01-17 Thread jay rappaport
this discussion brings back memories from long long time ago, far far away


when the shortest working program we could come up with as a challenge in 
school was


input = output : f(end)




one line of code that actually did something


now if only i could remember what language this was in!


jay
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Re: [U2] brillant or not

2012-01-17 Thread Charlie Noah

I can name that tune in...

On 01-17-2012 6:49 PM, jay rappaport wrote:

this discussion brings back memories from long long time ago, far far away


when the shortest working program we could come up with as a challenge in 
school was


input = output : f(end)




one line of code that actually did something


now if only i could remember what language this was in!


jay
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Re: [U2] brillant or not

2012-01-17 Thread Dave Laansma
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is that the professional understands that clarity is king. Professionals
use their powers for good and write code that others can understand.

Robert C. Martin - Clean Code - A Handbook of Agile Software
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this discussion brings back memories from long long time ago, far far
away


when the shortest working program we could come up with as a challenge
in school was


input = output : f(end)




one line of code that actually did something


now if only i could remember what language this was in!


jay
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