Re: [U2] Unidata 6.1.13/AIX 5.3 Stops Unexpectedly

2013-01-20 Thread Peter Cheney
Distance should not be an obstacle. You may not be able to physically access 
the console but console access should still be possible either by getting 
someone else to physically eyeball it or a launch remote console session 
yourself.

How about using something like a Cyclades terminal server to access one or more 
host consoles remotely via ssh? Even if a Cyclades is not an option then what 
about a network connected management facility such as an ALOM/ILOM or similar? 
Again via ssh,  login and launch the console process from there. As long as the 
chassis had power then you should have LOM access if the WAN is available.

Voila! Serial console heaven from the other side of the world even. Sure 
talking someone on the other end of a phone through a system recovery is not 
the easiest of tasks and it may not be as quick as direct connect in the same 
room or even an ssh session over your LAN but it sure would beat an acoustic 
coupled 300 baud half duplex modem that we used to use at AWA to dial in and 
fix GFE's etc.

So how do you access your system console?

Cheers
Peter

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Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 6.1.13/AIX 5.3 Stops Unexpectedly

On 18/01/13 03:18, Kevin King wrote:
> Peter, I'm 1200+ miles away from the box.  Getting to the console is 
> not an option.  To restart, I've been forcing Unidata down with stopud 
> -f and starting it again with startud.  Yeah, drastic, I know.  But 
> that's why I'm looking for better ways.

How do you get to the box to do a stopud/startud?

This implies AIX is up and responding. So it shouldn't be too hard to open a 
remote session at the AIX level to find out what is going wrong.
Not that I can advise how to do it ...

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] Unidata 6.1.13/AIX 5.3 Stops Unexpectedly

2013-01-20 Thread Kevin King
Thanks Wally.  You so rock.

This customer does have a support contract with an awful provider that does
very little, charges very much, and is the antithesis of responsive.
 That's why they come to me.  I don't have any official connections but can
usually get them some help within minutes vs. days.  Unfortunately, the way
the VAR agreements are structured with U2, there's no way they can ever
escape the abuse they get from this vendor.

On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Wally Terhune
wrote:

> I doubt that your system non-responsiveness is related to UniData record
> locks. Not sure what you even mean by an 'overflowed lock table'.
>
> However, you can look at record locks with a non-documented engineering
> tool: glm_tool.
>
> First menu choice: 1: Show the Map of Locks might be useful.
> If you just want to see the number of locks held by each UniData process,
> select 4: More Options for Developer
> and then 1: transaction table  (in this case 'transaction' refers to each
> udt process - listing udtnos counting from 0 instead of 1 (as you see in
> listuser output).
>
> Does this customer not have a support contract?
> Have they submitted a udtdiag dump to their support provider while the
> problem was occuring?
>
> regards,
>
>
> Wally Terhune
> U2 Support Architect
> Rocket Software
> Tel: (720) 475-8055
> Mobile: (303) 807-6222
> wterh...@rocketsoftware.com
> u2supp...@rocketsoftware.com
> 
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] on behalf of Kevin King
> [ke...@precisonline.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 12:16 PM
> To: U2 Users List
> Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 6.1.13/AIX 5.3 Stops Unexpectedly
>
> Usually we can still telnet into AIX.  That's how I'm running the
> stopud/startud.  This errpt command is new to me but thanks to everyone for
> that input; that should be very valuable.
>
> I still wish there was some way we could do a LIST.READU from AIX without
> having to login to udt, like listuser but for locks.  I don't know if an
> overflowed lock table is even remotely related to the problem, but it would
> be nice to be able to check it without having to get to TCL.
>
> -K
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:49 AM, doug chanco 
> wrote:
>
> > That was my question as well, do you telnet or ssh into the box?  Once
> you
> > login su over to root and do
> >
> > errpt -aD
> >
> > this will give you short listing of all the errors aix has logged and
> > consolidates duplicate errors (see below for an example)
> >
> > LABEL:   STOK_RCVRY_EXIT
> > Date/Time:   Tue Dec 14 15:25:33
> > Type:TEMP
> > Resource Name:   tok0
> > Description
> > PROBLEM RESOLVED
> > Detail Data
> > FILE NAME
> > line: 273 file: stok_wdt.c
> > SENSE DATA
> >      
> > DEVICE ADDRESS
> > 0004 AC62 25F1
> >
> > My aix sysadmin days are way behind me  but I am willing to bet that the
> > company has a aix support contract and you could contact them to help
> with
> > any errors found.
> >
> >
> > dougc
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists
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> > Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata 6.1.13/AIX 5.3 Stops Unexpectedly
> >
> > On 18/01/13 03:18, Kevin King wrote:
> > > Peter, I'm 1200+ miles away from the box.  Getting to the console is
> > > not an option.  To restart, I've been forcing Unidata down with stopud
> > > -f and starting it again with startud.  Yeah, drastic, I know.  But
> > > that's why I'm looking for better ways.
> >
> > How do you get to the box to do a stopud/startud?
> >
> > This implies AIX is up and responding. So it shouldn't be too hard to
> open
> > a
> > remote session at the AIX level to find out what is going wrong.
> > Not that I can advise how to do it ...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Wol
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