[U2] moving UV from one server to another (windows)
Had someone ask me this question. They are downsizing their PC's They have UV currently installed on a Windows Server PC - and each of the PC's using wintergate to access it. This server is having some issues, so they want to move UV off of it, and have it run on one of their client PC Running windows 7. My thought was that you would install UV on that PC, Then (with the services off), copy the file structure from The Server to the PC. Assuming the all the folders are named the same on both systems for the install. And of Course remove UV from the Server once all it good. Should this be all that would be needed? Will UV function on a Windows 7 PC? Can it be used as working PC - as well as be a UV server? Everything I've heard says it should run by itself - but - can it run on a PC as background service? George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.comhttp://www.wyanokegroup.com/ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] moving UV from one server to another (windows)
One of the things you may need to watch real careful would be locking. Especially on the workstation that is hosting UV. Then, as long as all the drive letters are the same as on the server, everything should be okay. Of course, YMMV but I've done this type of swapping on my home network with the personal edition a number of years ago. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:04 AM To: U2 Users Subject: [U2] moving UV from one server to another (windows) Had someone ask me this question. They are downsizing their PC's They have UV currently installed on a Windows Server PC - and each of the PC's using wintergate to access it. This server is having some issues, so they want to move UV off of it, and have it run on one of their client PC Running windows 7. My thought was that you would install UV on that PC, Then (with the services off), copy the file structure from The Server to the PC. Assuming the all the folders are named the same on both systems for the install. And of Course remove UV from the Server once all it good. Should this be all that would be needed? Will UV function on a Windows 7 PC? Can it be used as working PC - as well as be a UV server? Everything I've heard says it should run by itself - but - can it run on a PC as background service? George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.comhttp://www.wyanokegroup.com/ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] moving UV from one server to another (windows)
Locking issues once UV is running on the Windows 7 machine, or locking issues caused by Copying over the data and overwriting the fresh install? This won't be a heavily used system (3 or 4 users maximum and even then should be too taxing). Should they max out the memory on the PC it's going to be installed on? Or is 4gb fine? George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Woodward, Bob Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 2:28 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] moving UV from one server to another (windows) One of the things you may need to watch real careful would be locking. Especially on the workstation that is hosting UV. Then, as long as all the drive letters are the same as on the server, everything should be okay. Of course, YMMV but I've done this type of swapping on my home network with the personal edition a number of years ago. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:04 AM To: U2 Users Subject: [U2] moving UV from one server to another (windows) Had someone ask me this question. They are downsizing their PC's They have UV currently installed on a Windows Server PC - and each of the PC's using wintergate to access it. This server is having some issues, so they want to move UV off of it, and have it run on one of their client PC Running windows 7. My thought was that you would install UV on that PC, Then (with the services off), copy the file structure from The Server to the PC. Assuming the all the folders are named the same on both systems for the install. And of Course remove UV from the Server once all it good. Should this be all that would be needed? Will UV function on a Windows 7 PC? Can it be used as working PC - as well as be a UV server? Everything I've heard says it should run by itself - but - can it run on a PC as background service? George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.comhttp://www.wyanokegroup.com/ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] moving UV from one server to another (windows)
Oh, I'd always say go for more memory. Especially if there are other Windows apps that are going to be used on that computer. As to the locking, the normal record locks inside of UV once it's moved. Just do a simple edit of a record on the workstation, then from another workstation, edit the same record. If there is a problem, the workstation hosting UV is probably not locking the records. When I saw the problem, it was because the workstation was accessing UV through the C: drive, which was local, of course. To fix it, you have to map a network drive and ONLY use the network drive on that workstation. The idea was that local drives didn't NEED to be locked since it's a single user OS. At least that's the way it was explained to me. Come to think of it, Win7 may not even maintain a network locking table. Remember, I said I did this on a PE version where I was pretty much the only user. BobW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:38 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] moving UV from one server to another (windows) Locking issues once UV is running on the Windows 7 machine, or locking issues caused by Copying over the data and overwriting the fresh install? This won't be a heavily used system (3 or 4 users maximum and even then should be too taxing). Should they max out the memory on the PC it's going to be installed on? Or is 4gb fine? George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Woodward, Bob Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 2:28 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] moving UV from one server to another (windows) One of the things you may need to watch real careful would be locking. Especially on the workstation that is hosting UV. Then, as long as all the drive letters are the same as on the server, everything should be okay. Of course, YMMV but I've done this type of swapping on my home network with the personal edition a number of years ago. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:04 AM To: U2 Users Subject: [U2] moving UV from one server to another (windows) Had someone ask me this question. They are downsizing their PC's They have UV currently installed on a Windows Server PC - and each of the PC's using wintergate to access it. This server is having some issues, so they want to move UV off of it, and have it run on one of their client PC Running windows 7. My thought was that you would install UV on that PC, Then (with the services off), copy the file structure from The Server to the PC. Assuming the all the folders are named the same on both systems for the install. And of Course remove UV from the Server once all it good. Should this be all that would be needed? Will UV function on a Windows 7 PC? Can it be used as working PC - as well as be a UV server? Everything I've heard says it should run by itself - but - can it run on a PC as background service? George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.comhttp://www.wyanokegroup.com/ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] moving UV from one server to another (windows)
Hi Bob, Post migration, one thing for consideration might be user education regarding the new use of their workstation/PC? No more will the user just be able to re-boot it when it freezes etc or shut it down each night at home-o'clock. Cheers Peter On 19/11/13 05:55, Woodward, Bob wrote: Oh, I'd always say go for more memory. Especially if there are other Windows apps that are going to be used on that computer. As to the locking, the normal record locks inside of UV once it's moved. Just do a simple edit of a record on the workstation, then from another workstation, edit the same record. If there is a problem, the workstation hosting UV is probably not locking the records. When I saw the problem, it was because the workstation was accessing UV through the C: drive, which was local, of course. To fix it, you have to map a network drive and ONLY use the network drive on that workstation. The idea was that local drives didn't NEED to be locked since it's a single user OS. At least that's the way it was explained to me. Come to think of it, Win7 may not even maintain a network locking table. Remember, I said I did this on a PE version where I was pretty much the only user. BobW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:38 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] moving UV from one server to another (windows) Locking issues once UV is running on the Windows 7 machine, or locking issues caused by Copying over the data and overwriting the fresh install? This won't be a heavily used system (3 or 4 users maximum and even then should be too taxing). Should they max out the memory on the PC it's going to be installed on? Or is 4gb fine? George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Woodward, Bob Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 2:28 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] moving UV from one server to another (windows) One of the things you may need to watch real careful would be locking. Especially on the workstation that is hosting UV. Then, as long as all the drive letters are the same as on the server, everything should be okay. Of course, YMMV but I've done this type of swapping on my home network with the personal edition a number of years ago. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:04 AM To: U2 Users Subject: [U2] moving UV from one server to another (windows) Had someone ask me this question. They are downsizing their PC's They have UV currently installed on a Windows Server PC - and each of the PC's using wintergate to access it. This server is having some issues, so they want to move UV off of it, and have it run on one of their client PC Running windows 7. My thought was that you would install UV on that PC, Then (with the services off), copy the file structure from The Server to the PC. Assuming the all the folders are named the same on both systems for the install. And of Course remove UV from the Server once all it good. Should this be all that would be needed? Will UV function on a Windows 7 PC? Can it be used as working PC - as well as be a UV server? Everything I've heard says it should run by itself - but - can it run on a PC as background service? George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.comhttp://www.wyanokegroup.com/ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users --- Note: This email (inc all attachments) is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. Privileged or confidential information may be contained in this communication. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete all copies of this message from your computer network. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not keep, use, disclose, copy or distribute this email without the author's prior permission. If you are the intended recipient and you do
Re: [U2] moving UV from one server to another (windows)
No one has pointed out the elephant in the room yet, so I will. Windows 7 is not intended for this use; while this configuration may work for some values of work, stability issues can and should be expected. In particular, I would expect the network stack to be, unh, flaky might be the best word. More importantly, Windows 7 is not LICENSED for this use. I am not affiliated with Rocket, nor can I speak for them, but I would be very surprised if Rocket supports this configuration. This is NOT a good idea; it has false economy written all over it. I would discourage your client, friend or whatever from going down this path. David Scoggins On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 2:03 PM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.comwrote: Had someone ask me this question. They are downsizing their PC's They have UV currently installed on a Windows Server PC - and each of the PC's using wintergate to access it. This server is having some issues, so they want to move UV off of it, and have it run on one of their client PC Running windows 7. My thought was that you would install UV on that PC, Then (with the services off), copy the file structure from The Server to the PC. Assuming the all the folders are named the same on both systems for the install. And of Course remove UV from the Server once all it good. Should this be all that would be needed? Will UV function on a Windows 7 PC? Can it be used as working PC - as well as be a UV server? Everything I've heard says it should run by itself - but - can it run on a PC as background service? George Gallen Senior Programmer/Analyst Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220 The Wyanoke Group http://www.wyanokegroup.comhttp://www.wyanokegroup.com/ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- David Scoggins dscogg...@gmail.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
