Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-25 Thread Wjhonson

Another bug-or-oddity in the BDT Editor.
Some wily programmer before me, decided it was jim dandy to use certain 
reserved words as variables.
The compiled has no problem with it, but the BDT Editor is barfing when it sees 
something like

FOR LOOP = 1 TO 10

and also when it sees
GOTO NEXT

NEXT: do something here

It thinks I suppose that LOOP and NEXT shouldn't be used in these ways, and 
probably they shouldn't.
But they can.
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Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-25 Thread Wjhonson

It doesn't like this syntax

EXECUTE CMD, SELECT.  L.UM
DONE = FALSE ; CNT = 0 ; THE.FILE = ''
EXECUTE CMD, SELECT.  L.UM
DONE = FALSE ; CNT = 0 ; THE.FILE = ''
''
CRT SPACE(7):RECORDS PROCESSED:
LOOP
CRT SPACE(7):RECORDS PROCESSED:
LOOP
LOOP
READNEXT K.UM FROM L.UM ELSE DONE = TRUE
READNEXT K.UM FROM L.UM ELSE DONE = TRUE


It claims that I don't need the comma after CMD
But if I remove it, it then complains that CMD is an unexpected token
It also complains that I never set the value of L.UM (on the readnext line) 
which of course I did
It seems like it doesn't understand this perfectly good syntax which the 
compiler happily makes work as I intended.

By the way, the point of selecting out to a list and then readnexting from that 
list, for those who are virgins, is that two selects in one program, are almost 
always prevented from stepping on each other's toes.


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Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-25 Thread Doug Averch
The reason for both of those errors is BDT is not using the real compiler
for error checking.  Those Rocket software engineers used ANTLR parse
generator to go through the UniBasic code. In my opinion a fatal flaw.

Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com
Makers of XLr8Editor the BDT competitor
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Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-24 Thread John Jenkins
All, 

I've been keeping an eye on the BDT exchanges. If we can get a group consensus 
on bugs and issues rated as Show Stoppers, Must Have, Should Have and 
Could Have points then let's see if it has legs.

Would someone be willing to step forward and collate responses so that we can 
get a shared consensus? I'm willing to take it from there.

Regards

JayJay

Sent from my iPad

On 24 Apr 2012, at 01:11, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:

 
 Another odd bug, evidently in the code that determines if you are trying to 
 GOSUB a label that doesn't exist.
 In this case however, the label exists, but it's also like 1600 lines past 
 the GOSUB.  I wonder if BDT is barfing because of that distance?
 It says Label END.OF.JOB not defined but it is.  If I just move the 
 subroutine further up in the code, it's fine.
 So it's either the distance, or it thinks the code is ending before it gets 
 to this label.
 Code compiles fine, it's an old program that's been running for several years.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com
 To: wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com; u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 3:06 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?
 
 
 So evidently it turns out that Code Assist for GOSUB has a bug in it.
 In the following the upper case are characters typed, while the lower case 
 are command keys
 The documentation to my mind isn't very clear but
 So type
 
 GOSUB space ctrl+space
 
 In a program which HAS no labels at all and you get a run-time error
 Evidently it was never coded to handle people asking for an empty window or a 
 null or whatever.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com
 To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 2:59 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?
 
 
 So the first thing I try to do that the slightest bit interesting and get
 'Unhandled event loop exception'
 
 That's me. Breaking my toys on the first day.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Averch dave...@gmail.com
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 12:52 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?
 
 
 Will:
 I've done this many times on this list before.  But just so we don't
 tart another flame war, I have listed a few of the features of BDT
 nd its competitor XLr8Editor from U2logic in no order of importance.
 1) Shows compiler errors while you type
 ) Outline of variables used and internal subroutines in a clickable pane.
 ) Double click on any variable to see all occurrences in the program
 ) Maintains local history of all changes
 ) Bookmark support
 ) Open subroutines or includes with a single keys stroke
 ) Version control is available from CVS, Subversion, GIT, Perforce,
 r Team Foundation
 ) Code assist or completion depending on your view
 ) Template support included
 0) Dictionary editor is included
 Regards,
 oug
 ww.u2logic.com/tools.html
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Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-24 Thread Symeon Breen
I think there are a few bugs - in that particular case I don't think it
likes labels with dots in them, prob because it was written by an oop person
rather than a unibasic one.

However it is worth sticking with , after a few weeks, maybe a month you
will never go back.

As said, there are many alternatives, from  WED or wintegrate editor, to the
old unidebugger and Doug's Xlr8. Use any of these for a short period of time
and you will rarely use ED to edit programs again. 

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: 24 April 2012 01:11
To: wjhon...@aol.com; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?


Another odd bug, evidently in the code that determines if you are trying to
GOSUB a label that doesn't exist.
In this case however, the label exists, but it's also like 1600 lines past
the GOSUB.  I wonder if BDT is barfing because of that distance?
It says Label END.OF.JOB not defined but it is.  If I just move the
subroutine further up in the code, it's fine.
So it's either the distance, or it thinks the code is ending before it gets
to this label.
Code compiles fine, it's an old program that's been running for several
years.




-Original Message-
From: Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com
To: wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com; u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 3:06 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?


So evidently it turns out that Code Assist for GOSUB has a bug in it.
In the following the upper case are characters typed, while the lower case
are command keys The documentation to my mind isn't very clear but So type
 
GOSUB space ctrl+space

In a program which HAS no labels at all and you get a run-time error
Evidently it was never coded to handle people asking for an empty window or
a null or whatever.

 
-Original Message-
From: Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com
To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?


So the first thing I try to do that the slightest bit interesting and get
'Unhandled event loop exception'
 
That's me. Breaking my toys on the first day.



-Original Message-
From: Doug Averch dave...@gmail.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 12:52 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?


Will:
I've done this many times on this list before.  But just so we don't tart
another flame war, I have listed a few of the features of BDT nd its
competitor XLr8Editor from U2logic in no order of importance.
1) Shows compiler errors while you type
) Outline of variables used and internal subroutines in a clickable pane.
) Double click on any variable to see all occurrences in the program
) Maintains local history of all changes
) Bookmark support
) Open subroutines or includes with a single keys stroke
) Version control is available from CVS, Subversion, GIT, Perforce, r Team
Foundation
) Code assist or completion depending on your view
) Template support included
0) Dictionary editor is included
Regards,
oug
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Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-24 Thread Daniel McGrath
Just to confirm JJ's email, we are looking to focus on BDT in the November of 
U2 DBTools release so if there are certain issues you feel are important, email 
either JJ or myself so we are aware of them.

Regards,
Dan

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Jenkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 2:39 AM
To: U2 Users List
Cc: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

All, 

I've been keeping an eye on the BDT exchanges. If we can get a group consensus 
on bugs and issues rated as Show Stoppers, Must Have, Should Have and 
Could Have points then let's see if it has legs.

Would someone be willing to step forward and collate responses so that we can 
get a shared consensus? I'm willing to take it from there.

Regards

JayJay

Sent from my iPad

On 24 Apr 2012, at 01:11, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:

 
 Another odd bug, evidently in the code that determines if you are trying to 
 GOSUB a label that doesn't exist.
 In this case however, the label exists, but it's also like 1600 lines past 
 the GOSUB.  I wonder if BDT is barfing because of that distance?
 It says Label END.OF.JOB not defined but it is.  If I just move the 
 subroutine further up in the code, it's fine.
 So it's either the distance, or it thinks the code is ending before it gets 
 to this label.
 Code compiles fine, it's an old program that's been running for several years.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com
 To: wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com; u2-users 
 u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 3:06 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?
 
 
 So evidently it turns out that Code Assist for GOSUB has a bug in it.
 In the following the upper case are characters typed, while the lower 
 case are command keys The documentation to my mind isn't very clear 
 but So type
 
 GOSUB space ctrl+space
 
 In a program which HAS no labels at all and you get a run-time error 
 Evidently it was never coded to handle people asking for an empty window or a 
 null or whatever.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com
 To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 2:59 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?
 
 
 So the first thing I try to do that the slightest bit interesting and 
 get 'Unhandled event loop exception'
 
 That's me. Breaking my toys on the first day.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Averch dave...@gmail.com
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 12:52 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?
 
 
 Will:
 I've done this many times on this list before.  But just so we don't 
 tart another flame war, I have listed a few of the features of BDT nd 
 its competitor XLr8Editor from U2logic in no order of importance.
 1) Shows compiler errors while you type
 ) Outline of variables used and internal subroutines in a clickable pane.
 ) Double click on any variable to see all occurrences in the program
 ) Maintains local history of all changes
 ) Bookmark support
 ) Open subroutines or includes with a single keys stroke
 ) Version control is available from CVS, Subversion, GIT, Perforce, r 
 Team Foundation
 ) Code assist or completion depending on your view
 ) Template support included
 0) Dictionary editor is included
 Regards,
 oug
 ww.u2logic.com/tools.html
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Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-24 Thread Wjhonson

 Well since the undefined label bug causes the editor to barf and not let me 
roll-up code at all, that's important to me.  I can't use other features of BDT 
because of this.  I don't think it's a good thing to make programmers reshuffle 
their code to please a tool that supposed to be helping them be more efficient 
or something.  So did you add this as a bug to your list to fix tomorrow :)

 

 

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From: Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, Apr 24, 2012 7:11 am
Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?


Just to confirm JJ's email, we are looking to focus on BDT in the November of 
U2 
DBTools release so if there are certain issues you feel are important, email 
either JJ or myself so we are aware of them.

Regards,
Dan

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] 
On Behalf Of John Jenkins
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 2:39 AM
To: U2 Users List
Cc: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

All, 

I've been keeping an eye on the BDT exchanges. If we can get a group consensus 
on bugs and issues rated as Show Stoppers, Must Have, Should Have and 
Could Have points then let's see if it has legs.

Would someone be willing to step forward and collate responses so that we can 
get a shared consensus? I'm willing to take it from there.

Regards

JayJay

Sent from my iPad

On 24 Apr 2012, at 01:11, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:

 
 Another odd bug, evidently in the code that determines if you are trying to 
GOSUB a label that doesn't exist.
 In this case however, the label exists, but it's also like 1600 lines past 
 the 
GOSUB.  I wonder if BDT is barfing because of that distance?
 It says Label END.OF.JOB not defined but it is.  If I just move the 
subroutine further up in the code, it's fine.
 So it's either the distance, or it thinks the code is ending before it gets 
 to 
this label.
 Code compiles fine, it's an old program that's been running for several years.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com
 To: wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com; u2-users 
 u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 3:06 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?
 
 
 So evidently it turns out that Code Assist for GOSUB has a bug in it.
 In the following the upper case are characters typed, while the lower 
 case are command keys The documentation to my mind isn't very clear 
 but So type
 
 GOSUB space ctrl+space
 
 In a program which HAS no labels at all and you get a run-time error 
 Evidently it was never coded to handle people asking for an empty window or a 
null or whatever.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com
 To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 2:59 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?
 
 
 So the first thing I try to do that the slightest bit interesting and 
 get 'Unhandled event loop exception'
 
 That's me. Breaking my toys on the first day.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Averch dave...@gmail.com
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 12:52 pm
 Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?
 
 
 Will:
 I've done this many times on this list before.  But just so we don't 
 tart another flame war, I have listed a few of the features of BDT nd 
 its competitor XLr8Editor from U2logic in no order of importance.
 1) Shows compiler errors while you type
 ) Outline of variables used and internal subroutines in a clickable pane.
 ) Double click on any variable to see all occurrences in the program
 ) Maintains local history of all changes
 ) Bookmark support
 ) Open subroutines or includes with a single keys stroke
 ) Version control is available from CVS, Subversion, GIT, Perforce, r 
 Team Foundation
 ) Code assist or completion depending on your view
 ) Template support included
 0) Dictionary editor is included
 Regards,
 oug
 ww.u2logic.com/tools.html
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Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-24 Thread Doug Averch
Sorry, Will only U2logic can put out releases on a daily basis for our
tools product.  We prefer, however, to put them out every 3 or 4
weeks.

Regards,
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Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-24 Thread Daniel McGrath
Minor correction: As of the U2 DBTools release in March, Rocket Software runs 
an eclipse update site for all tools in this suite.

Regards,
Dan

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Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:07 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

Sorry, Will only U2logic can put out releases on a daily basis for our tools 
product.  We prefer, however, to put them out every 3 or 4 weeks.

Regards,
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Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-24 Thread Wjhonson

I can't seem to figure out, in BDT how to open subroutines... with a single 
keystroke
or is that only an XLr8Editor ability?  By the way do you have an evaluation 
version of that?

On another BDT note, I get this odd error in the log
eclipse.buildId=M20100211-1343
java.version=1.6.0_23
java.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
BootLoader constants: OS=win32, ARCH=x86, WS=win32, NL=en_US
Framework arguments:  -product com.rs.u2.u2bdt.product -perspective 
com.rs.u2.u2bdt.ui.bdtPerspective
Command-line arguments:  -os win32 -ws win32 -arch x86 -product 
com.rs.u2.u2bdt.product -perspective com.rs.u2.u2bdt.ui.bdtPerspective -data 
u2bdt_workspace

Warning
Tue Apr 24 09:25:35 PDT 2012
Cannot bind to an undefined command: plug-in='com.rs.u2.u2term', 
id='com.rs.u2.u2term.key_ctrl_e'

No idea what this error means, it doesn't seem to stop me from 

Did I mention yet that the BDT documentation that comes with Universe is 
incredibly awful?
If there is really a push to get this out there, wouldn't it be helpful to turn 
those ten pages (and twenty pages of nonsense) into a good set of documentation 
on what it can do?

Doug how big is your documentation and can I view it for free without a copy of 
your program?


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From: Doug Averch dave...@gmail.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 12:52 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?


Will:
I've done this many times on this list before.  But just so we don't
tart another flame war, I have listed a few of the features of BDT
nd its competitor XLr8Editor from U2logic in no order of importance.
1) Shows compiler errors while you type
) Outline of variables used and internal subroutines in a clickable pane.
) Double click on any variable to see all occurrences in the program
) Maintains local history of all changes
) Bookmark support
) Open subroutines or includes with a single keys stroke
) Version control is available from CVS, Subversion, GIT, Perforce,
r Team Foundation
) Code assist or completion depending on your view
) Template support included
0) Dictionary editor is included
Regards,
oug
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Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-24 Thread Wjhonson

Good try, but that's not it Symeon.
For example I have code like

GOSUB PRINT.LABELS
GOSUB END.OF.JOB
RETURN
*
PRINT.LABELS:
do stuff
RETURN
*
END.OF.JOB:
do other stuff

In that case, it doesn't barf, the roll up ability is still present.
When I select PRINT.LABELS (another feature that is woefully [not] 
documented) and then hit F3 it jumps directly to the label PRINT.LABELS which 
proves that it can understand what I want, and that also works for END.OF.JOB 
so it even likes two dots! :)~~

Speaking of documentation my outline view vanished and I can't figure out how 
to get it back.
How?


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From: Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com
To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, Apr 24, 2012 1:39 am
Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?


I think there are a few bugs - in that particular case I don't think it
ikes labels with dots in them, prob because it was written by an oop person
ather than a unibasic one.
However it is worth sticking with , after a few weeks, maybe a month you
ill never go back.
As said, there are many alternatives, from  WED or wintegrate editor, to the
ld unidebugger and Doug's Xlr8. Use any of these for a short period of time
nd you will rarely use ED to edit programs again. 
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rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
ent: 24 April 2012 01:11
o: wjhon...@aol.com; u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
ubject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

nother odd bug, evidently in the code that determines if you are trying to
OSUB a label that doesn't exist.
n this case however, the label exists, but it's also like 1600 lines past
he GOSUB.  I wonder if BDT is barfing because of that distance?
t says Label END.OF.JOB not defined but it is.  If I just move the
ubroutine further up in the code, it's fine.
o it's either the distance, or it thinks the code is ending before it gets
o this label.
ode compiles fine, it's an old program that's been running for several
ears.


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rom: Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com
o: wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com; u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
ent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 3:06 pm
ubject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

o evidently it turns out that Code Assist for GOSUB has a bug in it.
n the following the upper case are characters typed, while the lower case
re command keys The documentation to my mind isn't very clear but So type

OSUB space ctrl+space
In a program which HAS no labels at all and you get a run-time error
vidently it was never coded to handle people asking for an empty window or
 null or whatever.
 
Original Message-
rom: Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com
o: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
ent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 2:59 pm
ubject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

o the first thing I try to do that the slightest bit interesting and get
Unhandled event loop exception'

hat's me. Breaking my toys on the first day.

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rom: Doug Averch dave...@gmail.com
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ent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 12:52 pm
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ill:
've done this many times on this list before.  But just so we don't tart
nother flame war, I have listed a few of the features of BDT nd its
ompetitor XLr8Editor from U2logic in no order of importance.
) Shows compiler errors while you type
 Outline of variables used and internal subroutines in a clickable pane.
 Double click on any variable to see all occurrences in the program
 Maintains local history of all changes
 Bookmark support
 Open subroutines or includes with a single keys stroke
 Version control is available from CVS, Subversion, GIT, Perforce, r Team
oundation
 Code assist or completion depending on your view
 Template support included
) Dictionary editor is included
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ug
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Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-24 Thread Doug Averch
Will:

I have all of the documentation available on our web site at
www.u2logic.com/downloads.html as well as inside Eclipse's Help System.

   1. Eclipse Training Guide (A class I gave a CMUG a many months ago)  -
   24 pages
   2. XLr8Editor User Guide - 14 pages
   3. XLr8Editor Search Users Guide - 8 pages
   4. XLr8Editor Version Control - 28 pages

Free trial as available follow the documentation on Install XLr8 Eclipse
product guide.

Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com/tools.html
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Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-24 Thread Wjhonson

Doug I downloaded your Xlr8Editor and am able to see the files in the uv 
account.
But it won't connect to another account I'm trying.  I tried it without a path 
specified, and with both, and it gives me an error.
When I try to see the properties and Apply and Test access I get

 pingU2Session unable to get U2Session msg=[~ERROR-UniSessionException,ERROR 
UNABLE TO CONNECT TO


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From: Doug Averch dave...@gmail.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tue, Apr 24, 2012 10:35 am
Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?


Will:
I have all of the documentation available on our web site at
ww.u2logic.com/downloads.html as well as inside Eclipse's Help System.
   1. Eclipse Training Guide (A class I gave a CMUG a many months ago)  -
  24 pages
  2. XLr8Editor User Guide - 14 pages
  3. XLr8Editor Search Users Guide - 8 pages
  4. XLr8Editor Version Control - 28 pages
Free trial as available follow the documentation on Install XLr8 Eclipse
roduct guide.
Regards,
oug
ww.u2logic.com/tools.html
Eclipse tools for the rest of us
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[U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-23 Thread Wjhonson

Could someone give me a list of their three or five things in BDT, coming from 
the line editor environment, that they've found the most useful about it?

That is, as a salesperson, to old school Universe coders, what are the key 
selling points?

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Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-23 Thread Doug Averch
Will:

I've done this many times on this list before.  But just so we don't
start another flame war, I have listed a few of the features of BDT
and its competitor XLr8Editor from U2logic in no order of importance.

1) Shows compiler errors while you type
2) Outline of variables used and internal subroutines in a clickable pane.
3) Double click on any variable to see all occurrences in the program
4) Maintains local history of all changes
5) Bookmark support
6) Open subroutines or includes with a single keys stroke
7) Version control is available from CVS, Subversion, GIT, Perforce,
or Team Foundation
8) Code assist or completion depending on your view
9) Template support included
10) Dictionary editor is included

Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com/tools.html
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Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-23 Thread Wjhonson

So the first thing I try to do that the slightest bit interesting and get
'Unhandled event loop exception'

That's me. Breaking my toys on the first day.



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From: Doug Averch dave...@gmail.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 12:52 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?


Will:
I've done this many times on this list before.  But just so we don't
tart another flame war, I have listed a few of the features of BDT
nd its competitor XLr8Editor from U2logic in no order of importance.
1) Shows compiler errors while you type
) Outline of variables used and internal subroutines in a clickable pane.
) Double click on any variable to see all occurrences in the program
) Maintains local history of all changes
) Bookmark support
) Open subroutines or includes with a single keys stroke
) Version control is available from CVS, Subversion, GIT, Perforce,
r Team Foundation
) Code assist or completion depending on your view
) Template support included
0) Dictionary editor is included
Regards,
oug
ww.u2logic.com/tools.html
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Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-23 Thread Wjhonson

So evidently it turns out that Code Assist for GOSUB has a bug in it.
In the following the upper case are characters typed, while the lower case are 
command keys
The documentation to my mind isn't very clear but
So type

GOSUB space ctrl+space

In a program which HAS no labels at all and you get a run-time error
Evidently it was never coded to handle people asking for an empty window or a 
null or whatever.


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From: Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com
To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?


So the first thing I try to do that the slightest bit interesting and get
'Unhandled event loop exception'
 
That's me. Breaking my toys on the first day.



-Original Message-
From: Doug Averch dave...@gmail.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 12:52 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?


Will:
I've done this many times on this list before.  But just so we don't
tart another flame war, I have listed a few of the features of BDT
nd its competitor XLr8Editor from U2logic in no order of importance.
1) Shows compiler errors while you type
) Outline of variables used and internal subroutines in a clickable pane.
) Double click on any variable to see all occurrences in the program
) Maintains local history of all changes
) Bookmark support
) Open subroutines or includes with a single keys stroke
) Version control is available from CVS, Subversion, GIT, Perforce,
r Team Foundation
) Code assist or completion depending on your view
) Template support included
0) Dictionary editor is included
Regards,
oug
ww.u2logic.com/tools.html
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Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-23 Thread Wjhonson

Another odd bug, evidently in the code that determines if you are trying to 
GOSUB a label that doesn't exist.
In this case however, the label exists, but it's also like 1600 lines past the 
GOSUB.  I wonder if BDT is barfing because of that distance?
It says Label END.OF.JOB not defined but it is.  If I just move the 
subroutine further up in the code, it's fine.
So it's either the distance, or it thinks the code is ending before it gets to 
this label.
Code compiles fine, it's an old program that's been running for several years.




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From: Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com
To: wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com; u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 3:06 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?


So evidently it turns out that Code Assist for GOSUB has a bug in it.
In the following the upper case are characters typed, while the lower case are 
command keys
The documentation to my mind isn't very clear but
So type
 
GOSUB space ctrl+space

In a program which HAS no labels at all and you get a run-time error
Evidently it was never coded to handle people asking for an empty window or a 
null or whatever.

 
-Original Message-
From: Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com
To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 2:59 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?


So the first thing I try to do that the slightest bit interesting and get
'Unhandled event loop exception'
 
That's me. Breaking my toys on the first day.



-Original Message-
From: Doug Averch dave...@gmail.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 12:52 pm
Subject: Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?


Will:
I've done this many times on this list before.  But just so we don't
tart another flame war, I have listed a few of the features of BDT
nd its competitor XLr8Editor from U2logic in no order of importance.
1) Shows compiler errors while you type
) Outline of variables used and internal subroutines in a clickable pane.
) Double click on any variable to see all occurrences in the program
) Maintains local history of all changes
) Bookmark support
) Open subroutines or includes with a single keys stroke
) Version control is available from CVS, Subversion, GIT, Perforce,
r Team Foundation
) Code assist or completion depending on your view
) Template support included
0) Dictionary editor is included
Regards,
oug
ww.u2logic.com/tools.html
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Re: [U2] BDT what's the big deal?

2012-04-23 Thread Doug Averch
What can I say?  Maybe you should try out the competition...

Regards,
Doug
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