[U2] Converting static to dynamic

2007-07-24 Thread Jonathan Leckie
We have two very large files from which I often have to remove data to stop 
the files reaching the 2GB limit, much as I enjoy removing this data my 
colleague has suggested that changing these files to be dynamic would mean 
we could allow them to hold more data and choose when to remove old data 
rather than be forced to.


Does any one have any experiences that they wish to share regarding changing 
files in this way, e.g. file performance before and after, any practical 
steps required after conversion etc.?


We are running red hat enterprise Linux 3 and unidata 6.

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Re: [U2] Converting static to dynamic

2007-07-24 Thread George Land
We run pretty much all of our files as dynamic although mainly because we
write software for resale and it is much easier for a customer site to be
managed if everything is dynamic.

The main issue is to try and create the dynamic file at roughly the right
size rather than creating it small and letting it grow.  It will be quicker
to copy and will perform better.

Once created we haven't seen any serious performance issues so long as they
are managed.  It's not as serious as managing a static file but you do still
have to keep an eye on them and resize them once in a while

George Land
APT Solutions Ltd 


On 24/7/07 09:05, Jonathan Leckie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We have two very large files from which I often have to remove data to stop
 the files reaching the 2GB limit, much as I enjoy removing this data my
 colleague has suggested that changing these files to be dynamic would mean
 we could allow them to hold more data and choose when to remove old data
 rather than be forced to.
 
 Does any one have any experiences that they wish to share regarding changing
 files in this way, e.g. file performance before and after, any practical
 steps required after conversion etc.?
 
 We are running red hat enterprise Linux 3 and unidata 6.


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RE: [U2] Converting static to dynamic

2007-07-24 Thread Baakkonen, Rodney A (Rod) 46K
We have a dynamic file that is 65 gig. I would recommend that you invest some 
time experimenting with split/merge params and even possibly KEYDATA to see 
what works best with your file. 
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We have two very large files from which I often have to remove data to stop 
the files reaching the 2GB limit, much as I enjoy removing this data my 
colleague has suggested that changing these files to be dynamic would mean 
we could allow them to hold more data and choose when to remove old data 
rather than be forced to.

Does any one have any experiences that they wish to share regarding changing 
files in this way, e.g. file performance before and after, any practical 
steps required after conversion etc.?

We are running red hat enterprise Linux 3 and unidata 6.

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RE: [U2] Converting static to dynamic

2007-07-24 Thread Dave Davis
Use hash type 1.
Use KEYONLY splitting.
Choose a reasonable starting modulo
Experiment with SPLIT.LOAD and MERGE.LOAD.

The file will probably be twice as slow as a perfectly sized static file
but who cares.

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Subject: [U2] Converting static to dynamic

We have two very large files from which I often have to remove data to
stop the files reaching the 2GB limit, much as I enjoy removing this
data my colleague has suggested that changing these files to be dynamic
would mean we could allow them to hold more data and choose when to
remove old data rather than be forced to.

Does any one have any experiences that they wish to share regarding
changing files in this way, e.g. file performance before and after, any
practical steps required after conversion etc.?

We are running red hat enterprise Linux 3 and unidata 6.

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RE: [U2] Converting static to dynamic

2007-07-24 Thread Baakkonen, Rodney A (Rod) 46K
KEYONLY would not work for us for the most part. We have File Keys that 
were 10-15 characters. Our record sizes would be 300-800. So we would never get 
enough Keys in a group to cause splitting. KEYDATA works fine in 90% of our 
files. But we have files that have meaningful keys that do not hash well. Keys 
like this do poorly with hashing in Unidata:

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And they are a disaster with KEYDATA. Splitting happens continuously as 
the hashing causes records to hash to the same groups even after the split. So 
I had to go back to KEYONLY and I manually have to resize these files with 
meaningful keys on a yearly basis.

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Use hash type 1.
Use KEYONLY splitting.
Choose a reasonable starting modulo
Experiment with SPLIT.LOAD and MERGE.LOAD.

The file will probably be twice as slow as a perfectly sized static file
but who cares.

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Subject: [U2] Converting static to dynamic

We have two very large files from which I often have to remove data to
stop the files reaching the 2GB limit, much as I enjoy removing this
data my colleague has suggested that changing these files to be dynamic
would mean we could allow them to hold more data and choose when to
remove old data rather than be forced to.

Does any one have any experiences that they wish to share regarding
changing files in this way, e.g. file performance before and after, any
practical steps required after conversion etc.?

We are running red hat enterprise Linux 3 and unidata 6.

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