Re: [U2] Enterprise Scheduling solution
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Re: [U2] Enterprise Scheduling solution
Like another poster said AutoSys is common enterprise multi-platform scheduling tool with it's own scripting/scheduler language. But it won't be cheap and it probably will be an overkill. Tivoli, There are lots of similar tools out there, some optimized for the major enterprise ERP packages, RDBMSs, etc. Some of the larger enterprise multi-platform/ERP/DB schedulers can be found from companies such as UC4 Software, Tidal Software, etc. Another interesting open source scheduler (with optional support from the developer) is Open Scheduler (http://www.sos-berlin.com/modules/cjaycontent/index.php?id=osource_scheduler_introduction_en.htm). It is multi-platform, has an API, supports remote host job execution, is using XML format configuration files, job editor, job monitoring GUI via a webserver, optionally complex jobs can be managed via a number of majors databases (not UV though - but didn't check if it had a generic JDBC/ODBC driver). What all will have issues with UV and what should concern you is their inter-interoperability, impact on your U2 licenses (depending on how they invoke jobs), job management and the inability for UV applications executing to return return codes back to them to indicate success or failure of their execution. The later may negate much of the functionality of such tools if are unaware of the state of your jobs (specifically when the process terminates). From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Baker Hughes [baker.hug...@mouser.com] Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2011 7:23 AM To: U2 Users List (u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org) Subject: [U2] Enterprise Scheduling solution Many MV systems have some kind of home-brewed or even purchased scheduling solution for handling batch processes. Many times, in distribution or manufacturing ERP applications, certain processes such as Aging A/R, or stock replenishment/reserving, is performed 'after hours' by these schedulers. We've all worked with one or perhaps written our own. We have one of these, that gets the job done. Does anyone know of an Enterprise Scheduler solution that can handle jobs across a heterogeneous enterprise, that is also MV or *nix compatible? Rather than try and take our UniVerse based scheduler front end to the next level of perfection, we need a job/phantom/scheduler solution that would allow an Operator with little or no MV knowledge to monitor/adjust/manage jobs across a plethora of different OS-based enterprise applications. The Enterprise Scheduler we are interested in can be MV based, or other DB based, but must have a graphical front end, and must be able to manage jobs on non-MV systems as well as MV systems. Thanks for any ideas. -Baker This communication, its contents and any file attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential proprietary information. Access by any other party without the express written permission of the sender is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this communication in error you may not copy, distribute or use the contents, attachments or information in any way. Please destroy it and contact the sender. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ** IMPORTANT MESSAGE * This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information which may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return email, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your system. Unless specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or commitment by the sender or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its subsidiaries. We can be contacted through our web site: commbank.com.au. If you no longer wish to receive commercial electronic messages from us, please reply to this e-mail by typing Unsubscribe in the subject line. ** ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Enterprise Scheduling solution
We use plain old cron in AIX. If you get your korn shell initialization set right in the shell script you call U2 from you can do almost anything. BASIC will do anything cron won't. Let me know if you need more details... Kind of hard to type them out on a blackberry. On 6/13/11, Baker Hughes baker.hug...@mouser.com wrote: Many MV systems have some kind of home-brewed or even purchased scheduling solution for handling batch processes. Many times, in distribution or manufacturing ERP applications, certain processes such as Aging A/R, or stock replenishment/reserving, is performed 'after hours' by these schedulers. We've all worked with one or perhaps written our own. We have one of these, that gets the job done. Does anyone know of an Enterprise Scheduler solution that can handle jobs across a heterogeneous enterprise, that is also MV or *nix compatible? Rather than try and take our UniVerse based scheduler front end to the next level of perfection, we need a job/phantom/scheduler solution that would allow an Operator with little or no MV knowledge to monitor/adjust/manage jobs across a plethora of different OS-based enterprise applications. The Enterprise Scheduler we are interested in can be MV based, or other DB based, but must have a graphical front end, and must be able to manage jobs on non-MV systems as well as MV systems. Thanks for any ideas. -Baker This communication, its contents and any file attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential proprietary information. Access by any other party without the express written permission of the sender is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this communication in error you may not copy, distribute or use the contents, attachments or information in any way. Please destroy it and contact the sender. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Sent from my mobile device John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Enterprise Scheduling solution
Cron is great however sounds like the op wants something much much more than cron :) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: 14 June 2011 12:54 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Enterprise Scheduling solution We use plain old cron in AIX. If you get your korn shell initialization set right in the shell script you call U2 from you can do almost anything. BASIC will do anything cron won't. Let me know if you need more details... Kind of hard to type them out on a blackberry. On 6/13/11, Baker Hughes baker.hug...@mouser.com wrote: Many MV systems have some kind of home-brewed or even purchased scheduling solution for handling batch processes. Many times, in distribution or manufacturing ERP applications, certain processes such as Aging A/R, or stock replenishment/reserving, is performed 'after hours' by these schedulers. We've all worked with one or perhaps written our own. We have one of these, that gets the job done. Does anyone know of an Enterprise Scheduler solution that can handle jobs across a heterogeneous enterprise, that is also MV or *nix compatible? Rather than try and take our UniVerse based scheduler front end to the next level of perfection, we need a job/phantom/scheduler solution that would allow an Operator with little or no MV knowledge to monitor/adjust/manage jobs across a plethora of different OS-based enterprise applications. The Enterprise Scheduler we are interested in can be MV based, or other DB based, but must have a graphical front end, and must be able to manage jobs on non-MV systems as well as MV systems. Thanks for any ideas. -Baker This communication, its contents and any file attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential proprietary information. Access by any other party without the express written permission of the sender is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this communication in error you may not copy, distribute or use the contents, attachments or information in any way. Please destroy it and contact the sender. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Sent from my mobile device John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3702 - Release Date: 06/13/11 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Enterprise Scheduling solution
I have not used it, but wish I had time to tinker with it. Task Forest looks interesting. http://www.taskforest.com/ It is open src, but commercial support is available. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Enterprise Scheduling solution
You should check out Benton, it works on Unix and Windows OS, and is U2 based so it can run paragraphs, procs, programs etc. Very flexible. I have used it for more years than I care to admit. :D. The link is http://www.infocus50.com/benton.htm Tom -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 9:18 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Enterprise Scheduling solution Cron is great however sounds like the op wants something much much more than cron :) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: 14 June 2011 12:54 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Enterprise Scheduling solution We use plain old cron in AIX. If you get your korn shell initialization set right in the shell script you call U2 from you can do almost anything. BASIC will do anything cron won't. Let me know if you need more details... Kind of hard to type them out on a blackberry. On 6/13/11, Baker Hughes baker.hug...@mouser.com wrote: Many MV systems have some kind of home-brewed or even purchased scheduling solution for handling batch processes. Many times, in distribution or manufacturing ERP applications, certain processes such as Aging A/R, or stock replenishment/reserving, is performed 'after hours' by these schedulers. We've all worked with one or perhaps written our own. We have one of these, that gets the job done. Does anyone know of an Enterprise Scheduler solution that can handle jobs across a heterogeneous enterprise, that is also MV or *nix compatible? Rather than try and take our UniVerse based scheduler front end to the next level of perfection, we need a job/phantom/scheduler solution that would allow an Operator with little or no MV knowledge to monitor/adjust/manage jobs across a plethora of different OS-based enterprise applications. The Enterprise Scheduler we are interested in can be MV based, or other DB based, but must have a graphical front end, and must be able to manage jobs on non-MV systems as well as MV systems. Thanks for any ideas. -Baker This communication, its contents and any file attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential proprietary information. Access by any other party without the express written permission of the sender is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this communication in error you may not copy, distribute or use the contents, attachments or information in any way. Please destroy it and contact the sender. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Sent from my mobile device John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3702 - Release Date: 06/13/11 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Enterprise Scheduling solution
Does anyone know of an Enterprise Scheduler solution that can handle jobs across a heterogeneous enterprise, that is also MV or *nix compatible? We use AutoSys from CA. Runs on probably any platform you'd want it to run on. It's big and I'm sure it's not cheap. But it works pretty well. A lot of flexibility in setting up sequences of jobs based on reasonably complex success/failure conditions. We hook into UD via shell scripts that AutoSys calls. The Enterprise Scheduler we are interested in can be MV based, or other DB based, but must have a graphical front end AutoSys runs on Oracle and has a GUI. We could talk offline if you want to dig into it a bit more to see if AutoSys is a fit. Brad. U.S. BANCORP made the following annotations - Electronic Privacy Notice. This e-mail, and any attachments, contains information that is, or may be, covered by electronic communications privacy laws, and is also confidential and proprietary in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you are legally prohibited from retaining, using, copying, distributing, or otherwise disclosing this information in any manner. Instead, please reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error, and then immediately delete it. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. - ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Enterprise Scheduling solution
Yeah... I did not read the last part. Cron is not a non-technical person tool. On 6/14/11, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote: Cron is great however sounds like the op wants something much much more than cron :) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson Sent: 14 June 2011 12:54 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Enterprise Scheduling solution We use plain old cron in AIX. If you get your korn shell initialization set right in the shell script you call U2 from you can do almost anything. BASIC will do anything cron won't. Let me know if you need more details... Kind of hard to type them out on a blackberry. On 6/13/11, Baker Hughes baker.hug...@mouser.com wrote: Many MV systems have some kind of home-brewed or even purchased scheduling solution for handling batch processes. Many times, in distribution or manufacturing ERP applications, certain processes such as Aging A/R, or stock replenishment/reserving, is performed 'after hours' by these schedulers. We've all worked with one or perhaps written our own. We have one of these, that gets the job done. Does anyone know of an Enterprise Scheduler solution that can handle jobs across a heterogeneous enterprise, that is also MV or *nix compatible? Rather than try and take our UniVerse based scheduler front end to the next level of perfection, we need a job/phantom/scheduler solution that would allow an Operator with little or no MV knowledge to monitor/adjust/manage jobs across a plethora of different OS-based enterprise applications. The Enterprise Scheduler we are interested in can be MV based, or other DB based, but must have a graphical front end, and must be able to manage jobs on non-MV systems as well as MV systems. Thanks for any ideas. -Baker This communication, its contents and any file attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential proprietary information. Access by any other party without the express written permission of the sender is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this communication in error you may not copy, distribute or use the contents, attachments or information in any way. Please destroy it and contact the sender. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Sent from my mobile device John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3702 - Release Date: 06/13/11 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Sent from my mobile device John Thompson ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Enterprise Scheduling solution
Baker, we use Entrinsk's product called Informer it works with Unidata and SQL databases has a very nice graphical front end and they even allow you to embed your company's logo into the application. We have it at a number of sites. Nick Nicholas M Gettino, Director of Professional Services Support, EnRoute Emergency Systems an Infor Company, Concourse Center 1, 3501 East Frontage Rd, Suite 350, Tampa, FL 33607 -(813) 207-6998 direct, (813) 334-3507 cell, FAX (678) 393-5389 nick.gett...@enroute911.com or nick.gett...@infor.com *** ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] Enterprise Scheduling solution
Many MV systems have some kind of home-brewed or even purchased scheduling solution for handling batch processes. Many times, in distribution or manufacturing ERP applications, certain processes such as Aging A/R, or stock replenishment/reserving, is performed 'after hours' by these schedulers. We've all worked with one or perhaps written our own. We have one of these, that gets the job done. Does anyone know of an Enterprise Scheduler solution that can handle jobs across a heterogeneous enterprise, that is also MV or *nix compatible? Rather than try and take our UniVerse based scheduler front end to the next level of perfection, we need a job/phantom/scheduler solution that would allow an Operator with little or no MV knowledge to monitor/adjust/manage jobs across a plethora of different OS-based enterprise applications. The Enterprise Scheduler we are interested in can be MV based, or other DB based, but must have a graphical front end, and must be able to manage jobs on non-MV systems as well as MV systems. Thanks for any ideas. -Baker This communication, its contents and any file attachments transmitted with it are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential proprietary information. Access by any other party without the express written permission of the sender is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you have received this communication in error you may not copy, distribute or use the contents, attachments or information in any way. Please destroy it and contact the sender. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
