Just to add - a few of you say annoying adverts, One of my businesses is
contextualised advertising and classifieds sites, so many an ad (in the uk)
on the major newspaper and magazine web sites is from my company - all done
in asp.net - uniobjects.net - unidata - so they are not annoying but
another manifestation of the MV world - now go click on them !
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
Sent: 28 April 2011 23:17
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Say Adobe
From: WJ
When my clients ask about Flash I shudder. Flash is the
worst nightmare to ever hit the web :)
From: Allen E. Elwood
Bandwidth sucking monster Will - but it has it's place used
properly.
used properly is the key, as with all tools. Most people see
Flash and think movies, glitz, ads, and annoyances. Flash via
Flex has come a long way for creating real business data entry
screens - it's virtually defined RIA. Just because you see
bandwidth sucking ads that make you want to turn off the
functionality, don't close your mind to Flash/Flex as one of the
many viable and well qualified options for putting a GUI on you
apps. After all of the rhetoric about languages and frameworks
that get in the way of Pick people doing modern development, Flex
is nothing more than JavaScript and XML. There's some serious
big bang for the buck here.
Silverlight is another cross-platform solution where existing
skills can be used to create a rich new UI. As far as bang for
the buck, it's completely free, though as with Flex, if you want
tools to help you code faster you'll need to pay for them.
Pick your fodder, it doesn't really matter which one you select.
At this point it's more a matter of personal preferences. In a
world where plugins are often installed out of the box, or within
minutes of running in the real world, avoiding plugins like this
is a thing of the distant past. So, since pretty much everyone
has the software installed, you might as well make use of it.
The basic idea with these client-side technologies is that they
offset middle-tier server burden to the client. But in data
entry apps where the client doesn't need to do much, your
performance hit is in network traffic via AJAX. For a business
app you're going to take a similar hit whether you're using
plugins like Flash or Silverlight, or (less so) if you're using
ASP.NET webforms, or even a JavaScript framework front-ending a
PHP app. Since we Pick people like to keep our business rules in
the DB server, there's not a lot that we're going to want to push
back out to the client in JavaScript, or VB.NET or C#. My
personal take on all of this is that we can get attractive
cross-platform GUI/RIA for business usage without plugins, so I'm
not quick to recommend it, but I don't jump to rally against it
either.
Developers need to get away from the I hate that platform
techno-religion which severely limits their options, and get to a
point where they understand where each technology does and does
not fit for specific tasks.
and no matter what tools you choose, they all work with U2
Search my blog for Flash, Flex, Silverlight, and related
keywords. I've written a number of articles on this topic.
Tony Gravagno
Nebula Research and Development
TG@ remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com
Nebula RD sells mv.NET and other Pick/MultiValue products
worldwide, and provides related development services
remove.pleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog
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