Re: [U2] Subject: 2 servers - how do I point to a VOC on another server?

[Anthony W. Youngman]

In message , Doug 
 writes

Hi Chris:

Without buying UVNet and or PRC which cost many thousands of dollars.  You
have a couple of choices:

1)  You can use the smoke and mirrors of VOC pointers
2)  You can get a real version control system.  Most of the version control
systems CVS or Subversion are free.  They require scripts to code to hook
them up.


And if you're going to learn a new version control system, GET A 
DISTRIBUTED ONE!


Okay, you might be the sole developer ... but a distributed system still 
helps. I learnt some sourcesafe in my last job, and one of the biggest 
pains was another developer working on a module I was using, or needing 
to bugfix a module that was being developed on. You can add your own 
niggles.


I've started learning git, and while I haven't really scratched the 
surface of what it can do, it's easy to have multiple developments going 
on against the same stream of code. (You just curse a bit when you need 
to merge those streams, although git does try to make it easier for you 
:-)


Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] Subject: 2 servers - how do I point to a VOC on another server?

[Doug]

Hi Chris:

Without buying UVNet and or PRC which cost many thousands of dollars.  You
have a couple of choices:

1)  You can use the smoke and mirrors of VOC pointers
2)  You can get a real version control system.  Most of the version control
systems CVS or Subversion are free.  They require scripts to code to hook
them up.

[ad]
3)  You can buy XLr8Editor that has built in version control for $49.00.
XLr8Editor allows you to use the compare editor to compare code from prior
versions.  Generally, I set my to 100 versions.  I get a new version every
time I save throughout the day. I can roll back code instantly for one of my
prior local versions. By pressing a forward or backward icon as I step
through the code of a comparison.  It is that easy.

XLr8Editor can even bookmark my changes in the program so I can find them
without taxing my brain.  I can Copy/Paste from one Universe system just
like Windows Explorer  Which would remove the obfuscation of those VOC
pointers.

This is a real IDE and it supports Universe back to version 9.6.
[/ad]

Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com/tools.html

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disingenuous.



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Re: [U2] Subject: 2 servers - how do I point to a VOC on another server?

[Chris Austin]

Susan,

Thanks for the reply! Right now we're using M$ Source Safe for our repository 
needs but I
am curious what your product has to offer. Does this product work on multi 
servers?

I have thought about doing a release with source safe every so often that would 
essentially
copy the object code into the production server region. 

And on a side note to Bill, we do have a 'sandbox' region setup. I guess we 
were hoping to 
elevate a program for a day or 2 (like we do now) on 1 server.. but cross 
servers until
we decided to commit the changes but it appears that this may not be the best 
solution.

-Chris


> From: sjos...@sjplus.com
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:28:48 -0400
> Subject: [U2] Subject: 2 servers - how do I point to a VOC on another server?
> 
> Hi Chris,
> I can't help myself - everyone knows it.  Just like most know that I have a
> version control / deployment product for U2 that I could be trying to plug.
> And if you are interested I'd be happy to talk to you about it. (There ya go
> - plugged!)  But whatever you will do to manage your promotions to live I
> really very strongly recommend that you not run some programs off of the dev
> server!
> 
> Why not copy the program to the live server and compile and catalog it
> there?  Keep a very strong border between dev and live!  Papers required to
> cross! The idea of having some programs running out of DEV and some not...
> well, it strikes me as a "situation" waiting for its moment!
> 
> Let me know if I can help...
> 
> Susan Joslyn
> sjos...@sjplus.com
> SJ+ Systems Associates, In.c
> PRC(r) Real software development life-cycle management for U2
> 
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:31:08 -0500
> From: Chris Austin 
> To: 
> Subject: [U2] 2 servers - how do I point to a VOC on another server?
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> We're running UniVerse 10.1.8 on our main server and we just bought another
> server with UniVerse 10.3.3. I would like to setup the old server as the
> development
> server and keep the new server as the production server. The problem is
> we want to "elevate" some programs to the new server. Ideally we would just 
> point the VOC to the old server until we fully test the programs. We have
> set 
> ALLOWNFS to 1 as well. What is involved for us to run a file and setup a voc
> to 
> point to a completely different server?
> 
> Example) program A is on server 1, but we want the changes to reflect on
> server 2.
> 
> What we have been doing in the past is editing the VOC from one account to
> the other, but
> I'm not sure how to do this on another server.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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[U2] Subject: 2 servers - how do I point to a VOC on another server?

[Susan Joslyn]

Hi Chris,
I can't help myself - everyone knows it.  Just like most know that I have a
version control / deployment product for U2 that I could be trying to plug.
And if you are interested I'd be happy to talk to you about it. (There ya go
- plugged!)  But whatever you will do to manage your promotions to live I
really very strongly recommend that you not run some programs off of the dev
server!

Why not copy the program to the live server and compile and catalog it
there?  Keep a very strong border between dev and live!  Papers required to
cross! The idea of having some programs running out of DEV and some not...
well, it strikes me as a "situation" waiting for its moment!

Let me know if I can help...

Susan Joslyn
sjos...@sjplus.com
SJ+ Systems Associates, In.c
PRC(r) Real software development life-cycle management for U2


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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:31:08 -0500
From: Chris Austin 
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Subject: [U2] 2 servers - how do I point to a VOC on another server?
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Hello,

We're running UniVerse 10.1.8 on our main server and we just bought another
server with UniVerse 10.3.3. I would like to setup the old server as the
development
server and keep the new server as the production server. The problem is
we want to "elevate" some programs to the new server. Ideally we would just 
point the VOC to the old server until we fully test the programs. We have
set 
ALLOWNFS to 1 as well. What is involved for us to run a file and setup a voc
to 
point to a completely different server?

Example) program A is on server 1, but we want the changes to reflect on
server 2.

What we have been doing in the past is editing the VOC from one account to
the other, but
I'm not sure how to do this on another server.

Thanks.

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